RE: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-11 Thread Stevenson, Charles 
Glenn,

I recently went shopping for such a product.  Best value was from
biblesoft (www.biblesoft.com), who has a useable free product with
several versions of the Bible, Strong's, Vine, some commentaries, etc.
all for FREE.   But the nice feature is that you can buy individual
modular add-ons that get integrated into the suite.  For example, you
can add the NIV (for a steep price. The publisher, Zondervan, is very
possessive of their product. It is a secular company & while I
appreciate a good profit, myself, they are shooting themselves in the
foot. NIV has been replacing King James as the new de facto standard,
but Zondervan is pricing themselves out if the market now that NewKJ and
New Living Translation are out there.  Both of them are owned by
Christian publishers who are motivated by evangelistic zeal as well as
profit.  I'm betting NLT will become standard.  But I digress.), or
Vulgate, or Luther's German Bible, Luther's commentaries, etc..

What this product and others lack is some query abilities that a good UV
backend might facilitate.  You can do concordance look-ups, but nothing
very complex.  Scofield-style or Ryrie's cross-referencing is missing in
my version. If you put UV behind a product like these, maybe you could
add value there.  I'm trying to think of an example of something I
wanted to do and I'm drawing a blank...too early in the morning.

I also have the Unabridged Oxford English Dictionary on my PC.  (You
know, the one that's about the same size as the Encyclodeia Brittanica
and has citations back to the middle ages.)  It is one of the most
amazing scholarly works in history, and their software is junk!  Maybe
they don't have to be good since they have a corner on the market.
Nothing compares to OED.
But that software is embarrassing.   The user interface is trash.  It's
slow.  The lookups are a mixed bag.  If you want a project to work on
similar to the Bible one you propose, make a proposal to Oxford
University Press.  I know the frontend is bad, so I assume the database
backend is nothing to shout about either. Slowness suggests it.


Chas. Stevenson


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>   The entire Bible WITH lexicons, greek/hebrew, study aids, 
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> Ok, I realize all this.  Just thought there would be a few 
> interested in having something in UV. Not trying to sell 
> something.  Just... Well...
> 
> If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately.  
> For those who already have, thanks.  I will be getting back 
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RE: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-11 Thread Glenn W. Paschal 
  <>
  The entire Bible WITH lexicons, greek/hebrew, study aids, etc Is available
free of charge online
  <>

Ok, I realize all this.  Just thought there would be a few interested in
having something in UV.
Not trying to sell something.  Just... Well...

If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately.  
For those who already have, thanks.  I will be getting back to you shortly.

Glenn W. Paschal
PasTech LLC
Computer Consulting
ph. (931) 526-9631
fx. (931) 526-9678
email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web. www.pastech.net


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Re: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-10 Thread FFT2001 
In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:55:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> I guess this is what I was getting at.  There are none (that I can find) on
> UV.  Never said it was necessary.  Just something I am doing to sharpen my
> skills during this horrible downtime.  Was curious if it would be of benefit
> to anyone on the list.

Glenn I wrote one years ago for the Macintosh platform.  Typed the entire 
book of Genesis into it.  It was slick, every word [almost] was indexed to every 
reference and from the concordance you could jump forward and back between 
each reference.

Never sold a single copy.
And guess what
The entire Bible WITH lexicons, greek/hebrew, study aids, etc
Is available free of charge online

Will
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RE: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-10 Thread Glenn W. Paschal 
I guess this is what I was getting at.  There are none (that I can find) on
UV.  Never said it was necessary.  Just something I am doing to sharpen my
skills during this horrible downtime.  Was curious if it would be of benefit
to anyone on the list.

Oh, speaking of horrible downtime, if anyone needs work, would be glad to do
that, too!! (had to slip that in there.)

Thanks,
Glenn W. Paschal
PasTech LLC
Computer Consulting
ph. (931) 526-9631
fx. (931) 526-9678
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Nick Hengeveld wrote a program called the Bible Gateway while he was working
for me at Calvin College -- I'm guessing more than a decade ago.  I believe
it is still maintained at www.gospelcom.net  (it is not mv-based).  I didn't
check before passing along this URL but take a look and I suspect it is
still there.  Rev Fun is there too -- Nick's brother, Max, who was a student
employee, writes those.

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

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Aren't there bible applications already written. I don't know of them but
i've heard of them as they can quickly cross reference passages and named
references.


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> I am working on a bible application for my personal use.  If anyone 
> else would be interested in this type application, let me know.  I 
> would
welcome
> the inputs and ideas on what it should be capable of.
>
> Thanks,
>
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RE: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-09 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis 
Nick Hengeveld wrote a program called the Bible Gateway while he was working
for me at Calvin College -- I'm guessing more than a decade ago.  I believe
it is still maintained at www.gospelcom.net  (it is not mv-based).  I didn't
check before passing along this URL but take a look and I suspect it is
still there.  Rev Fun is there too -- Nick's brother, Max, who was a student
employee, writes those.

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

Take and give some delight today.


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Aren't there bible applications already written. I don't know of them but
i've heard of them as they can quickly cross reference passages and named
references.


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> I am working on a bible application for my personal use.  If anyone else
> would be interested in this type application, let me know.  I would
welcome
> the inputs and ideas on what it should be capable of.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn W. Paschal
> PasTech LLC
> Computer Consulting
> ph. (931) 526-9631
> fx. (931) 526-9678
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Re: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?

2004-03-09 Thread Mark Johnson 
Aren't there bible applications already written. I don't know of them but
i've heard of them as they can quickly cross reference passages and named
references.


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Subject: [UV] Would anyone be interested in UV based bible software?


> I am working on a bible application for my personal use.  If anyone else
> would be interested in this type application, let me know.  I would
welcome
> the inputs and ideas on what it should be capable of.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn W. Paschal
> PasTech LLC
> Computer Consulting
> ph. (931) 526-9631
> fx. (931) 526-9678
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