RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs
No, it's a newsgroup list. Go to Google and get into the groups. You'll find it there. Gordon J. Glorfield Sr. Applications Developer MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company) 301-360-8839 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:02 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs Is that a URL or how do i get into it. thanks > I assume you've asked the question on comp.databases.pick? > If not, you may get more joy there. > > Brian > -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Notice of Confidentiality: The information included and/or attached in this electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, distribution or the taking of action in reliance on the contents of the information is prohibited. If you believe that you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
Is that a URL or how do i get into it. thanks > I assume you've asked the question on comp.databases.pick? > If not, you may get more joy there. > > Brian > -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
Thanks. I will try it. - Original Message - From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'U2 Users Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs > Mark, > > I assume you've asked the question on comp.databases.pick? > If not, you may get more joy there. > > Brian > > > > > I'll restate the question: > > > > Does anyone have the box, manuals and installation diskettes > > for AP-Pro for the Pentium I system that they could give/loan/sell? > > > > This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar > malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. > > DISCLAIMER > > This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be > privileged. > > If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender > immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other > person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. > > In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please > contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Microgen Information Management Solutions > http://www.microgen.co.uk > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs
Mark, I assume you've asked the question on comp.databases.pick? If not, you may get more joy there. Brian > > I'll restate the question: > > Does anyone have the box, manuals and installation diskettes > for AP-Pro for the Pentium I system that they could give/loan/sell? This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
I'll restate the question: Does anyone have the box, manuals and installation diskettes for AP-Pro for the Pentium I system that they could give/loan/sell? I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the door and as they grow, we can convert later. Thanks for all that replied with offers of alternate pick environments but given my time constraints I don't want to venture into something new at this time. I am comfortable with AP-Pro, installation & support-wise. I have many clients on a variety of MV platforms and AP-Pro is the most appropriate for this situation. I know how to install, remove, create accounts etc on it. Oddly enough, i've not been in on the decision for which MV that my other clients have. I just come in after the original installers take their money & run with no application support. This client has zero Pick background and is running an app on dBase 3. AP-Pro would be nirvana for them. Thanks again. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs
How about UVPE/linux? Especially if it's initially a "proof of concept", that would be a legit use of UVPE. And while the system might be slow, it'll run on outdated hardware no problem, so when they "go live", the only cost they've got is the UV licence. The only thing I would say about the hardware is, as always, stuff it full to the gills with RAM if you can (and remember that the "swap >= twice ram" rule is *NOT*!!! obsolete). Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: 29 February 2004 19:43 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs I had considered this option as well as the MV-Lite environments already out there. This is really a low-key client (private club membership) that i am making a good deal on developing the app from scratch. Once they get their original system duplicated (dbase) to Pick, I can enhance their application with many desired features and they will have a greater appreciation for what the system can do for them. Perhaps, they can even grow. As it is, I'm searching my office for the red-box set of AP-Pro install discs from a converted client to install on an older P1-133 box. I'll steal an Arnet board from one of my other AP boxes (I don't need 24 users anymore) and 'build' them a good starting system. That's why I also solicited any older AP-Pro systems. thanks. - Original Message - From: "Tony Gravagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'U2 Users Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs If you had more of these deals you could setup a hosted environment (your choice of DBMS including U2 and D3). You use your own licenses on that system and do your development there. End-users can SSH into their own production accounts and pay you some monthly rate for using your app and resources until they're ready to move up. Voila', your own ASP. The initial cost of getting a licensed DBMS and ports may be prohibitive, but the advantage is that the system still belongs to you when the end-user has moved on to their own environment or even to a hosted solution of their own. If you already have a licensed environment then it should cost nothing to move the license to a hosted box, so the cost of getting this going is trivial. Note that (to my knowledge) it violates license agreements to run live end-users on development software provided by any of the MV DBMS vendors. You might be able to get a free temporary license to let users run for a couple months on a "try before they buy" basis. If you can manage that then they can host a DBMS locally and still pay you for your app. Couple ways to cut this cookie... Let me know if any of this is of interest. Tony Nebula R&D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-Original Message- >I would like to acquire... an older Pick AP-Pro system... I only > need 3-5 users. > >I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world >with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their >new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their >own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box >and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the >door and as they grow, we can convert later. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs
I recently completed the conversion of an old application running on R83 to QM. QM from Ladybridge Systems was chosen primarily because of it's low price (not quite so low anymore due to the cheap dollar). Cost breakdown as follows Computer running XP Pro 600.00 6 user License QM (45 British Pounds/user) 508.00 6 copies HotVT Terminal Emulator ($39/copy) 234.00 The conversion from R83 was relatively painless. The support from the QM and HotVt has been fantastic. Performance is tremendous. The system has been extremely stable. Remote access is now via the internet and the customer has been able to eliminate 2 phones lines costing about $100 a month. The system will run on any Windows box and a 3 user system would run about $300 for QM and $120 for the emulator. Regards, Mel Maresh >-Original Message- Dear All: I would like to acquire or purchase the complete box, manual and all diskettes for an older Pick AP-Pro system or someone's retired AP-Pro system (133-166 P1 preferably). I only need 3-5 users. I think the minimum is 3. I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the door and as they grow, we can convert later. Thanks in advance. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
I had considered this option as well as the MV-Lite environments already out there. This is really a low-key client (private club membership) that i am making a good deal on developing the app from scratch. Once they get their original system duplicated (dbase) to Pick, I can enhance their application with many desired features and they will have a greater appreciation for what the system can do for them. Perhaps, they can even grow. As it is, I'm searching my office for the red-box set of AP-Pro install discs from a converted client to install on an older P1-133 box. I'll steal an Arnet board from one of my other AP boxes (I don't need 24 users anymore) and 'build' them a good starting system. That's why I also solicited any older AP-Pro systems. thanks. - Original Message - From: "Tony Gravagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'U2 Users Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs If you had more of these deals you could setup a hosted environment (your choice of DBMS including U2 and D3). You use your own licenses on that system and do your development there. End-users can SSH into their own production accounts and pay you some monthly rate for using your app and resources until they're ready to move up. Voila', your own ASP. The initial cost of getting a licensed DBMS and ports may be prohibitive, but the advantage is that the system still belongs to you when the end-user has moved on to their own environment or even to a hosted solution of their own. If you already have a licensed environment then it should cost nothing to move the license to a hosted box, so the cost of getting this going is trivial. Note that (to my knowledge) it violates license agreements to run live end-users on development software provided by any of the MV DBMS vendors. You might be able to get a free temporary license to let users run for a couple months on a "try before they buy" basis. If you can manage that then they can host a DBMS locally and still pay you for your app. Couple ways to cut this cookie... Let me know if any of this is of interest. Tony Nebula R&D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-Original Message- >I would like to acquire... an older Pick AP-Pro system... I only > need 3-5 users. > >I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world >with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their >new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their >own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box >and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the >door and as they grow, we can convert later. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
In a message dated 2/29/2004 7:42:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I would like to acquire or purchase the complete box, manual and all > diskettes for an older Pick AP-Pro system or someone's retired AP-Pro system > (133-166 P1 preferably). I only need 3-5 users. I think the minimum is 3. > > I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world with an > inexpensive application to start. I can develop their new app on my own AP-Pro yet > in 2 months they will want their own system. We've explored the concepts of a > W2K/D3 or U2 box and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in > the door and as they grow, we can convert later. How about an Adds Mentor 1800 ? Will Johnson Fast Forward Technologies -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Pick AP-Pro Discs
If you had more of these deals you could setup a hosted environment (your choice of DBMS including U2 and D3). You use your own licenses on that system and do your development there. End-users can SSH into their own production accounts and pay you some monthly rate for using your app and resources until they're ready to move up. Voila', your own ASP. The initial cost of getting a licensed DBMS and ports may be prohibitive, but the advantage is that the system still belongs to you when the end-user has moved on to their own environment or even to a hosted solution of their own. If you already have a licensed environment then it should cost nothing to move the license to a hosted box, so the cost of getting this going is trivial. Note that (to my knowledge) it violates license agreements to run live end-users on development software provided by any of the MV DBMS vendors. You might be able to get a free temporary license to let users run for a couple months on a "try before they buy" basis. If you can manage that then they can host a DBMS locally and still pay you for your app. Couple ways to cut this cookie... Let me know if any of this is of interest. Tony Nebula R&D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-Original Message- >I would like to acquire... an older Pick AP-Pro system... I only > need 3-5 users. > >I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world >with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their >new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their >own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box >and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the >door and as they grow, we can convert later. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Pick AP-Pro Discs
have you looked at lady bridge QM? last I looked there license was around $100 US Chris Mark Johnson wrote: Dear All: I would like to acquire or purchase the complete box, manual and all diskettes for an older Pick AP-Pro system or someone's retired AP-Pro system (133-166 P1 preferably). I only need 3-5 users. I think the minimum is 3. I have a new client that I want to break into the Pick world with an inexpensive application to start. I can develop their new app on my own AP-Pro yet in 2 months they will want their own system. We've explored the concepts of a W2K/D3 or U2 box and its cost would kill the deal. I want to get my foot in the door and as they grow, we can convert later. Thanks in advance. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
