Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I love these kinds of conversations everyone get hunkered down to comparing the tech specs.. Yes, Yes, yes... no argument that there better radios But also stop and think for a moment, what was the 'effect' of the B11 becoming available in the market place, for our industry ? 1)..

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Not to mention the fact that you have to use fixed up/down ratios on the B11 to make sync work, which makes them even more inefficient...and adds a bunch of latency. All GPS sync really doesn't add any capabilities beyond what you get with a real FDD link (and actually does have a lot of

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Sure there is... as long as it's that exact same product. SAF Lumina can coexist with SIAE, Ceragon, Alcoma, Exalt, etc. as long as they all Tx or all Rx. B11 can co-exist with any radio as long as it's a B11 with the same sync settings. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Adair Winter
If B11 is so revolutionary, tell me why on one site I could license a AF11x, and two SIAE 80mhz links (one XPIC) but B11 would only be allowed 40Mhz. On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > not trying to be anal even in your statement there is a 'as

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
not trying to be anal even in your statement there is a 'as long as' There is no such 'as long as' requirement with the B11 sync. While it is nothing new in concept, but their implementation is unique (at least for the moment !) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
As far as I know, any FDD radio can share frequencies with any other radio on the tower, regardless of owner or manufacturer. 16 QAM or 4096 QAM. As long as they're all Rx or all Tx and sufficient azimuth\elevation separation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I am confused.. your earlier explanation had a number of conditions implied before one can reuse the same channel ? unless I am miss-understanding... with Mimosa, you can have two radios back to back or next to each other, belonging to two different providers, and re-use the channel. Can we

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Short answer is yes... but you have to do a modification with FCC...small fee invovled. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Jenco Wireless"

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Rory Conaway
First they have to get on the tower. That part is going to be obvious and they haven’t even applied for that. Then good luck finding customers. There are no business customers left in the entire town. It will be interesting. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 7:17 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > In case of Mimosa, you are actually getting something that has not existed > before in the Licensed Radio world... > Their radios don't care if they can hear each other.. and they will still > operate, co-exist > exactly how gps sync, channel reuse

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m going to have our attorney check that out. Thanks for the heads up. Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mimbres Communications Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:40 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
haha... yeah .. show me where this has worked ? (legal challenge). I don't prescribe to conspiracy theory But I don't think many of you have been following what transpired between the FCC & StraightPath Communications There is nothing like hiding information in plain sight. Let me

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
- > The Mimosa B11 has created this weird myth among WISPs that only it > allows for reuse because WISPs are used to using the same frequency for > TX and RX, but that's not really the case with FDD equipment. -- I think the myth is in how you are understanding the capability... How you