Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-12 Thread Josh Luthman 
It was radio or jumpers for sure.  Gtg before the rain comes back again.

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On Aug 10, 2016 2:01 AM, "RickG"  wrote:

> I just finished a long weekend fight with 5 new af5x units. 4 of them had
> very poor signals and 1had a flaky ethernet port. I finally threw in a pair
> of cambiums and wella, no more problems! Im not sure if i got a bad batch
> but it was very painful :(
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
>> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>>
>> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
>> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
>> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
>> ~2pm and left it alone.
>>
>> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed
>> up to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
>> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>>
>> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
>> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-10 Thread RickG 
I just finished a long weekend fight with 5 new af5x units. 4 of them had
very poor signals and 1had a flaky ethernet port. I finally threw in a pair
of cambiums and wella, no more problems! Im not sure if i got a bad batch
but it was very painful :(

On Monday, August 8, 2016, Josh Luthman  wrote:

> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>
> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
> ~2pm and left it alone.
>
> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up
> to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>
> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>


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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-09 Thread Shawn C. Peppers 
Well in my case i was able to remove the interference by moving the other 
airfiber 5x link physically with more separation.  

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> On Aug 9, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
> 
> Shawn,
> 
> Me too. I have a link that is shooting into a very noisy town that is so hit 
> or miss at this point. Anything special you did that helped it?
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Shawn C. Peppers 
>>  wrote:
>> I have had weird chain issues when there is interference present.
>> 
>> Shawn C. Peppers
>> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
>> 480-287-9960 Fax
>> http://www.video-direct.tv
>> 
>> > On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a 
>> > hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>> >
>> > We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get 
>> > 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to 
>> > ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday 
>> > ~2pm and left it alone.
>> >
>> > Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up 
>> > to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't 
>> > see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>> >
>> > The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30 
>> > days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Jeremy Austin 
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I've used dozens of them so I doubt it's a recurring problem, but you
> never know.


Here's an anecdote, not a statistic; I had an AF5X that I had to RMA due to
a chain imbalance that remained after swapping pigtails etc. So it is
possible to lose a chain internally.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Josh Luthman 
The issue is with AF5x, not Rockets.  The Rockets are working just fine
(short of not meeting capacity needs).


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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> We are finding on most rockets that the flat washer/nut on antennas are
> loose, and can leave a tiny gap after the antenna is attached. There is a
> rubber seal under the flat nut, but if it is too loose, moisture will get
> into radio. Also, if installer did not give that finger tightening an
> additional 1/4 turn, they will work loose with temperature fluctuation. A
> serious mismatched chain is usually one of these issues, or a broken
> antenna lead. (bent to much for instance during install). Visually check
> female and male antenna connectors for 'stuff', once had screwed one onto a
> spider or bug.
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
>> We had a similar issue... I believe it was water in one of the antenna
>> connectors, but we eventually ended up replacing everything.
>>
>> What kind of dish are you using?
>>
>> --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:03 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>>
>> They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to
>> 60,68).
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away
>>> consider new dish.  Are both ends that far off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steve Barnes*
>>>
>>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>>
>>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>>
>>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:50 PM
>>> *To:* Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com>; Ubiquiti Users Group <
>>> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and
>>> jumpers entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed
>>> by the old dish here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
>>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad
>>> pigtail, especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to
>>> the other port?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
>>> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we
>>> get 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0
>>> to ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on
>>> Friday ~2pm and left it alone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed
>>> up to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
>>> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
>>> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>>

Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Clay Stewart 
We are finding on most rockets that the flat washer/nut on antennas are
loose, and can leave a tiny gap after the antenna is attached. There is a
rubber seal under the flat nut, but if it is too loose, moisture will get
into radio. Also, if installer did not give that finger tightening an
additional 1/4 turn, they will work loose with temperature fluctuation. A
serious mismatched chain is usually one of these issues, or a broken
antenna lead. (bent to much for instance during install). Visually check
female and male antenna connectors for 'stuff', once had screwed one onto a
spider or bug.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:

> We had a similar issue... I believe it was water in one of the antenna
> connectors, but we eventually ended up replacing everything.
>
> What kind of dish are you using?
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>
> They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to
> 60,68).
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away
>> consider new dish.  Are both ends that far off.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:50 PM
>> *To:* Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com>; Ubiquiti Users Group <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>>
>>
>>
>> Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and
>> jumpers entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed
>> by the old dish here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad
>> pigtail, especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to
>> the other port?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
>> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
>> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
>> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
>> ~2pm and left it alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed
>> up to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
>> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>>
>>
>>
>> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
>> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Mathew Howard 
Interesting... that's the same thing we were using. The first two times it 
happened on our link, we fixed it by replacing the jumpers, but it seemed to be 
water leaking into the vertical N connector, the third time we just got sick of 
it and replaced the whole works with a UBNT antenna, so I'm not completely sure 
that it was the same again. That N connector seems to be very difficult to seal 
decently on those antennas.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes


Arc 2 foot

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 8, 2016 1:40 PM, "Mathew Howard" 
<mat...@litewire.net<mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
We had a similar issue... I believe it was water in one of the antenna 
connectors, but we eventually ended up replacing everything.

What kind of dish are you using?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
[j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 12:03 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes


They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to 
60,68).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" 
<st...@pcswin.com<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away consider 
new dish.  Are both ends that far off.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 12:50 PM
To: Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com<mailto:m...@ubnt.com>>; Ubiquiti Users Group 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and jumpers 
entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed by the old 
dish here.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>> wrote:
Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad pigtail, 
especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to the other 
port?

-Matt

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a hardware 
issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.

We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get 60/85 
ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to ch1 to 
verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday ~2pm and 
left it alone.

Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up to 
-68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't see 
externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.

The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30 days, I 
don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Josh Luthman 
Arc 2 foot

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 8, 2016 1:40 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:

> We had a similar issue... I believe it was water in one of the antenna
> connectors, but we eventually ended up replacing everything.
>
> What kind of dish are you using?
>
> --
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>
> They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to
> 60,68).
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away
>> consider new dish.  Are both ends that far off.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:50 PM
>> *To:* Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com>; Ubiquiti Users Group <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>>
>>
>>
>> Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and
>> jumpers entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed
>> by the old dish here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad
>> pigtail, especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to
>> the other port?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
>> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
>> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
>> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
>> ~2pm and left it alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed
>> up to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
>> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>>
>>
>>
>> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
>> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Mathew Howard 
We had a similar issue... I believe it was water in one of the antenna 
connectors, but we eventually ended up replacing everything.

What kind of dish are you using?


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 12:03 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes


They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to 
60,68).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" 
<st...@pcswin.com<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away consider 
new dish.  Are both ends that far off.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
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To: Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com<mailto:m...@ubnt.com>>; Ubiquiti Users Group 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and jumpers 
entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed by the old 
dish here.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>> wrote:
Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad pigtail, 
especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to the other 
port?

-Matt

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a hardware 
issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.

We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get 60/85 
ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to ch1 to 
verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday ~2pm and 
left it alone.

Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up to 
-68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't see 
externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.

The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30 days, I 
don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Josh Luthman 
They parallel each other, both sides have the same signals (from 60,85 to
60,68).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 8, 2016 12:55 PM, "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:

> Yeah switch to a new AF5x and all new jumpers.  If it does not go away
> consider new dish.  Are both ends that far off.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2016 12:50 PM
> *To:* Matt Hardy <m...@ubnt.com>; Ubiquiti Users Group <
> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes
>
>
>
> Haven't tried really anything yet.  We'll be swapping the radio and
> jumpers entirely first (of course pending what's discussed here) followed
> by the old dish here.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>
> Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad pigtail,
> especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to the
> other port?
>
>
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>
>
>
> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
> ~2pm and left it alone.
>
>
>
> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up
> to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>
>
>
> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users 
Have you tried completely changing the pigtails? Maybe it's a bad pigtail,
especially if the bad chain follows when you change the pigtail to the
other port?

-Matt

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
>
> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
> ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
> ~2pm and left it alone.
>
> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up
> to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
> see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
>
> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
> days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers 
I have had weird chain issues when there is interference present.

Shawn C. Peppers
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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a 
> hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.
> 
> We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get 
> 60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to ch1 
> to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday ~2pm 
> and left it alone.
> 
> Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up to 
> -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't see 
> externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.
> 
> The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30 days, 
> I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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[Ubnt_users] More AF5x woes

2016-08-08 Thread Josh Luthman 
I'm working back on this link again and I'm wondering if there isn't a
hardware issue.  Just wanted to bounce some thoughts.

We put up the link with two  2' dishes.  After aligning both sides we get
60/85 ch0/ch1 (note it's exactly 25dbm off).  On Friday we changed ch0 to
ch1 to verify the issue would follow suit, it did.  I emailed in on Friday
~2pm and left it alone.

Between Saturday 22:00 and Sunday 22:00 the weak chain steadily climbed up
to -68.  I'm wondering if there isn't water in the dish/jumpers we can't
see externally.  Or the AF5x needed burnt in/is broken in some way.

The link in parallel (Rocket M5) hasn't had more than a 2db swing in 30
days, I don't believe it would be an atmosphere or path issue.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
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