Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Aidan Maher
Yes, very grue, what I ment is that if orca or anything else wich comes with ubuntu does not improve enough that there should be another option available even if it does not come with ubuntu. But yes orca came a long way it seems. On 07/01/2013, Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.info wrote:

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread B. Henry
I don't see how it's so hard, or detramental to your points to remove the shiny stuff line from a comment is hard, or in anyway takes away from the force of what you are saying; butt burnout is burnout. I wouldn't have even written to say that. I will say that you have just discovered or

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Check out the latest version of ChromeVox, it was just released in the last few days, it again allows you to set the ChromeVox key, and has more key mapping options, and just handles remapping of keys much more slickly! It doesn't eliminate the issue of key map collisions, but it does a lot to

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread B. Henry
Agreed as is often the case. I will say that vinegar's fine, but well applied. Take that how you as the readers will...lol. I just want to add that no one has to take the lead, or decide they want to take the lead to be of value in the fight. And if it turns out not to be a fight and more of a

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread B. Henry
Hi KK and all, I certainly was not trying to suggest that writing about Windows should be anyone's focus in their interactions with Canonical execs, or any Linux devs. On the other hand howeverknowing that others have managed to make important bits accessible lets folks know that they need to

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Kyle
I do lots of things with my computer using Linux. Granted, my primary distro is Arch Linux rather than Ubuntu, so I get all the latest stuff as soon as it's released, but I don't use Windows, except the very rare times when I need to print something, because I have yet to purchase a good

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Jonathan Nadeau
Well said. On 01/07/2013 03:14 PM, Kyle wrote: I do lots of things with my computer using Linux. Granted, my primary distro is Arch Linux rather than Ubuntu, so I get all the latest stuff as soon as it's released, but I don't use Windows, except the very rare times when I need to print

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Nolan Darilek
On 01/07/2013 02:51 PM, kendell clark wrote: ouch. Pms, maybe? Nope, just my zero tact and diplomacy rearing its head. If people like their choices, then great. More power to them. But I have a short fuse with being criticized for daring to question the status quo, or for implying that

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Nolan Darilek
And yes, I agree, things are getting better. I never said they weren't, nor have I said that they were bad. My primary point is that we're seeing *lots* of companies backing QT for mobile accessibility, Canonical being the latest of those, and we aren't seeing any commitment by those companies

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree with this sentiment. I'd only nit pick a few points. Canonical isn't making money at all yet, let alone with Ubuntu Phone. That being said, accessibility needs to be built in from the get though, and it can't wait until Canonical is profitable or making money off of Ubuntu Phone. I don't

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Kyle
QT accessibility in Linux still has a long way to go. I'm not denying this. However, giving credit where credit is due, QT accessibility has made major improvements, going from near zero just 2 years ago to something that in many cases is mostly usable, and even surpasses the level of QT

Re: Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

2013-01-07 Thread Jonathan Nadeau
Couldn't have said it better myself. On 01/07/2013 06:21 PM, Kyle wrote: QT accessibility in Linux still has a long way to go. I'm not denying this. However, giving credit where credit is due, QT accessibility has made major improvements, going from near zero just 2 years ago to something