Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions ( was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
> > Ooh! I vote for this. > > vote? sorry but I think you misunderstood this whole process. > No—I know this isn't a democracy. I wasn't expecting an actual vote that would count for anything; I was just succinctly expressing my support for this idea. -- Greg K Nicholson -- ubuntu-art mail

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:15 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: > I am toying with a button-looking container with some toggle buttons > within for each process. The one you see here is really just an ugly > hack (and a mockup, obviously), but it shows the idea: > http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2454/scre

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 10/02/2008, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mockups, eh? Well, here are a few to look at. > Firstly, I have indeed been very very slowly poking at the application > switcher thought as a panel applet. Not really anywhere far yet, but this > discussion got me opening up the project agai

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
Mockups, eh? Well, here are a few to look at. Firstly, I have indeed been very very slowly poking at the application switcher thought as a panel applet. Not really anywhere far yet, but this discussion got me opening up the project again. I guess that's a step in the right direction... I am toying

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
That much (about desktop-neutrality) is definitely true, Jan. That's why the idea of building an application lister applet is a slow one, at best... A GNOME-centric proof of concept wouldn't hurt, but it would definitely be sensible to have a solid addition to the FreeDesktop standards somewhere.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Andrew Laignel
Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote: > If Ubuntu is going to lead GNU/Linux revolution, let's start thinking > some things, lets make some specifications, let's design a new gui for > gnome and let's help gnome's team to develop it! > > > I'm glad to know that there are a lot of people interested in

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:30 -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > For example, a system tray icon > might appear to tell the user that they have new mail, or have an > incoming instant message, or something along those lines." > I guess Evolution's flashing envelope means “You have a new message! W

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 22:34, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió: > That's exactly what i wanted to say: > > "Completely agree. If this goes further, that apps in system tray > _should not_ be removed untill that new feature is completely > implented and functional." > > And if they shouldn't be removed, the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 13:14 -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > If you want small icons for your running programs, I would assume this > can be accomplished through other means. It seems that it can't, since developers keep using the notification are for this purpose. > If an app isn't 'notifying

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Feb 10, 2008 10:14 PM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for > > GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too! > > So please stop blaming developers that they should

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 21:17, Andrew Laignel escribió: > Dylan McCall wrote: >> The problem with "the Windows way" is that there is a complete lack >> of >> consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a >> complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there >> i

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for > GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too! > So please stop blaming developers that they shouldn't use the > notification area without providing an alternative with the same qu

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Feb 10, 2008 8:30 PM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dylan McCall wrote: > > The notification area > > exists for programs to present information about notable happenings. > > That Rhythmbox is running is by no means a notable happening. > > If you want to make a difference, ge

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Andrew Laignel
Dylan McCall wrote: > The problem with "the Windows way" is that there is a complete lack of > consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a > complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there > is the question of whether it places itself in the notification

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Dylan McCall wrote: > The notification area > exists for programs to present information about notable happenings. > That Rhythmbox is running is by no means a notable happening. If you want to make a difference, get involved in the specifications that matter. Most importantly -- _FILE BUGS_ aga

[ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
The problem with "the Windows way" is that there is a complete lack of consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there is the question of whether it places itself in the notification area! Really, "programs" shoul