Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-20 Thread Alexander Wilms
Hi, in my opinion you should remove the mirrored circles ( the lower ones) on the front, as that makes it look too complicated. Furthermore Tux doesn't have to do anything with the Ubuntu brand, so I'd remove that, too. And, most important to me would it be to use the Ubuntu logo without the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-20 Thread EldiS
Thanks for suggestions, but I think I will leave mirrored circles, cause without them, the front side looks quite lifeless, compared to back. And too simple, even for this kind of flat and sleek design. I'm still considering what to do with Tux. Maybe I'll leave it maybe I'm not... About the most

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей
Tux and ubuntu logo now have the same color technically, but not visually. Ubuntu logo is larger and is surrounded by darker background, so it looks lighter than Tux. Still inconsistent :) Ubuntu and GNOME logos on the side also have different shades of aubergine, it also looks inconsistent. One

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей
2011/2/19 EldiS eldis.des...@gmail.com Heh... A lot of dislikes this time. It turned out that I'm going backwards. No, you are not. You are moving forward. I just can't notice or enumerate all glitches at once just looking at an in-progress version. For all previous versions I thought OK,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей
Things you mentioned are fixed now, if this could be called fixing. I tend to call it that way since I mess with code more. I know design basics (revising them right now actually) and that's all, I don't belong to the design culture. I played with Tux color, and I think it looks more slick

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread EldiS
Check your inbox. I don't know, cutout on the side icons seems to be only alternative to current shade. And I played with Tux placement already, for the sake of balancing white area of the pictogram like you said, but to me it doesn't look that nice, when it's not placed perfectly in the center

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
A bit of color depth is now added. So it's a bit darker overall now. I think it looks more dynamic now, compared to last one. And a little bit of noise effect is now added for those who requested it. :) But it's only temporary playing. I think I will remove it in final version. :) Here it is:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
I can't see the point of the little live cd label. I store mostly alternate CDs or 2-in-1 DVDs, so that label is simply not true for me. And its location also seems unnatural to me. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Thomas Storck
That looks a lot better. I think your good to go man! On Feb 16, 2011 2:49 AM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of color depth is now added. So it's a bit darker overall now. I think it looks more dynamic now, compared to last one. And a little bit of noise effect is now added

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
I waited for someone to notice that small live CD addon. Cause I'm burning all Linux ISOs to DVDs too. So actually there is no big point in that, except I wanted it to be more officialish, cause Ubuntu ISOs are always a CD releases (except alternative DVD edition which is very rarely used I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
2011/2/16 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com About placement, it is placed exactly on the upper virtual edge, like side Ubuntu logo, and back tab. And on the right side, it is lined with main title tab edge too, so if someone have some suggestion where to place it, I'm open for it. To me

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Thanks for suggestions. I will play with things you suggested, to see how it's gonna turn out. About this Live CD thing, maybe it is better to remove it completely. Content area will look more coherent, that's for sure. Somehow, it's leftover from some old buggy OSs, to have that little 32-bit

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-16 Thread jjungschlager
-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final Thanks for suggestions. I will play with things you suggested, to see how it's gonna turn out. About this Live CD thing, maybe it is better to remove it completely. Content area will look more coherent, that's for sure. Somehow

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-15 Thread Pumpkin Lord
I've attached a comparison of your current linux word and the same word with manual kerning, so you can decide for yourself if you need manual kerning or not. So I guess I will have to play with manual kerning then. At least with those bigger fonts in titles. Thanks for suggestion. I never had

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-13 Thread Alexander King
maybe appy a subtle noise effect :) heaps of people use it, it makes it look really nice. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Thomas Storck thomasto...@gmail.comwrote: Looks good, I like the color scheme going on. I am a new user to Ubuntu and I like your overall design. You should add a texture

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-13 Thread Angus Fretwell
Subtle noise is over used IMO. And this is print design, so once it's printed it won't really add anything, it might even make it look like it's been printed badly. On 14/02/2011, at 1:07 PM, Alexander King wrote: maybe appy a subtle noise effect :) heaps of people use it, it makes it look

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-13 Thread Alexander King
Thats true, it is used a bit over used :\ On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Angus Fretwell angusfretw...@me.comwrote: Subtle noise is over used IMO. And this is print design, so once it's printed it won't really add anything, it might even make it look like it's been printed badly. On

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-13 Thread Сергей
2011/2/11 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical didn't provide any notable improvements. Automatics won't improve anything in case of such a stretched font. You'll have to do manual kerning. Users don't seem to care about it,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/10/2011 09:50 PM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png Interesting layout. Setting ubuntu in bold shows as much sensibility as a boxing glove, both regarding the impression as such, but also regarding respecting the visual identity of

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
@Thorsten step by step in short. - Setting ubuntu in bold is much more effective to me, and it looks totally contrary from what you said, much more polisfed and sensitive. Should I say that I played a lot with standard Ubuntu font, and I wasn't satisfied at all, at least considering title font.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
And to add that I checked your blog before. I respect your work highly. Don't want to transform this topic into flaming war. :) Keep up with great work, anyway. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Angus Fretwell
The kerning is off. I think if you're using Photoshop, you can fix it by changing the kerning from 'metrics' to 'optical' and that should fix it. :) On 11/02/2011, at 8:04 PM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: @Thorsten step by step in short. - Setting ubuntu in bold is much more effective to me, and it

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/11/2011 10:04 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I think this artwork sum up everything I think about your feedback: http://theal.deviantart.com/art/Opinion-not-Fact-194945734?q=gallery%3Atheal%2F7848059qo=1 You're response was acceptable until that point. That statement is both true and

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
@Thorsten - I didn't want to insult you, but I see that you feel that way unfortunately. It was a bit of joke. And yes, I would feel better, if there was some IMO, here nad there, especially if someone is criticizing you in strictly negative way. But ofcourse it's not an obligation. :) I see

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
@Thorsten and Angus - Sorry guys if that turned out like that, but it wasn't meant to be any rude or arrogant. If that was the case, then I wouldn't be trying to answer all aspects of Thorsten's mail step by step. I would just paste that famous statement, it's just your opinion, and that's it.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
And if you'll feel better, I'm already fixing some things you mentioned, about the font, and back bullet tips misplacing. ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Thanks Angus. I'm currently fixing some small things so I expect you'll be around here today to give me some feedback. :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-11 Thread Pumpkin Lord
New fixes applied. Back info text is now nicely aligned and not floating around. Some small changes on side tab are applied too. Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical didn't provide any notable improvements. Here is the result:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-11 Thread John Baer
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.comwrote: New fixes applied. Back info text is now nicely aligned and not floating around. Some small changes on side tab are applied too. Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical didn't provide any

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Pumpkin Lord
I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Angus Fretwell
Woah! That is a lot better than the last one I saw. Great work! On 11/02/2011, at 7:50 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Angus Fretwell
Can I add that you could try making the orange icons cut-outs of the white, like the ubuntu logo. On 11/02/2011, at 7:50 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Ofcourse you can suggest anything you like. That's why we're here, right. ;) And now, did you mean something like this? http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1209/ubuntuuniversalorby2.png I must say that I also considered leaving only white overlays, like on Ubuntu official CD sleeves, but I wanted

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Angus Fretwell
Yeah, after lining the two up, the orange adds a nice definition. The only thing I would change is the text (get involved, explore and install, etc.). Something about the way it's layed out feels a bit off. I think the two columns should be more even, and you could try bumping up the line

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Franco Colomba
This looks great legit! (; On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.comwrote: I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Pumpkin Lord
This is the best I managed to do with back info text. It's a bit hard to make it look more coherent cause the right colon contains much more text. And when I change the line spacing on left colon then it looks more outplaced, than it's with normal formatting. So i added one line in left colon, and

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Angus Fretwell
Beautiful! And have you considered changing 'great-looking' to 'sexy' :P On 11/02/2011, at 9:30 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: This is the best I managed to do with back info text. It's a bit hard to make it look more coherent cause the right colon contains much more text. And when I change the line

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-10 Thread Pumpkin Lord
So I guess I should stick with this one for now. :) This is what next full pack will contains after some useful suggestions here. - Two versions of this universal cover in standard PNG, 32-bit and 64-bit. - Two versions of CD/DVD labels also. - One psd version of CD/DVD label, so that anyone can

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Ok, here's the deal. @Thirukumaran K - I'm not sure that some organic shapes would fit nicely in a design of this kind, with minimalistic and /as sleek as it could be/ approach. I was experimenting with a lot of patterns, textures, and different shapes to fill the background with, but I didn't

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Angus Fretwell
I probably prefer that one, I'll have a go at making a modified version of yours when I have a few moments. Regarding the linux thing, I just don't want to annoy Richard Stallman :P On 07/02/2011, at 7:06 PM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: Ok, here's the deal. @Thirukumaran K - I'm not sure that some

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Haha, maybe I should put GNU/Linux based open source OS on that sticker, to let Richard sleep nicely. :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Tulio Baars
The First CD cover is awesome! But, will you use the same cover forever? We could use the structure, but change the colors. How about? By the way, my name is Tulio Baars and i wanna help you in the Artwork Sector of Ubuntu Dev Regards -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Ofcourse, I will keep developing Ubuntu DVD covers in the future, but I just wanted to make something that will last for a longer time, without having to change the DVD cover every six months. Why not having one DVD cover, and just changing the DVD labels when new version is out. :) -- ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Tulio Baars
Its a very cool idea AND cover. Congratulations. When I get home I'll try to make some changes. Do you have it in vectors? Inkscape, maybe? Wich program do you used? I'm new here, sorry. But i am trying to do my best. Regards 2011/2/7 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com Ofcourse, I will

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Angus Fretwell
It's a great concept. I think you need something that's more definitively Ubuntu, though. And the design should be as timeless as the cover itself. Sent from my iPod On 08/02/2011, at 12:41 AM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com wrote: Ofcourse, I will keep developing Ubuntu DVD covers in

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Pumpkin Lord
@Tulio - I have it in psd format only, cause I'm still using Photoshop, and I will upload it on SpreadUbuntu so I will send you a link. @Angus - It is quite hard to achieve timeless design, that will look fresh and actual, today, and after x years. That's why I said before that if we're gonna

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread jjungschlager
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artworkubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Ofcourse, I will keep developing Ubuntu DVD covers in the future, but I just wanted to make something that will last for a longer

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Tulio
@Pumpkin In PSD it's very nice, I have Photoshop too. I just thought you're using some Ubuntu app to design it, but, k'mon, Neither GIMP nor any other img editor beats Ps. Best Regards signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente -- ubuntu-art mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Ofcourse, I will keep developing Ubuntu DVD covers in the future, but I just wanted to make something that will last for a longer time, without having to change the DVD cover every six months

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread jjungschlager
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Tulio Baars
Feb 2011 14:00:01 To: Discussion on Ubuntu artworkubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Leandro Gómez
2011/2/7 Tulio tulioba...@gmail.com @Pumpkin In PSD it's very nice, I have Photoshop too. I just thought you're using some Ubuntu app to design it, but, k'mon, Neither GIMP nor any other img editor beats Ps. Yes. And MacOS/Windows is way better than Ubuntu. Best Regards -- ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread jjungschlager
-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Pumpkin Lord
A lot of offtopic posts here... :) Someone said that at least colours should be changed from release to release. I agree, but I'm more familiar with idea to create a special, different cover, for each LTS release, and to keep cover for rolling releases, with maybe just some color palette

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Tulio Baars
As I said. I use GIMP 90% of my time, but some specially things, maybe there is a way in GIMP, but I only know how to do it with Ps. 2011/2/7 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com A lot of offtopic posts here... :) Someone said that at least colours should be changed from release to release. I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Thirukumaran K
@ Pumkin Lord you are correct - it saves valuable time if the design is generic.but what if some guy has two ubuntu CD/DVDs that are different verions (say 6months apart!) then to quickly identify it will be hard right?? I believe we have thousands of colors are wide open for us to use...!

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread jjungschlager
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Leandro Gómez
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-06 Thread Pumpkin Lord
I just fnished a new cover package for Ubuntu. This time I made it universal, without version numbers, in a purpose of a long time packaging, with just changing the CDs/DVDs with actual release every 6 months. Here is the preview:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-06 Thread John Baer
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com wrote: I just fnished a new cover package for Ubuntu. This time I made it universal, without version numbers, in a purpose of a long time packaging, with just changing the CDs/DVDs with actual release every 6 months. Here

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-06 Thread Thirukumaran K
Hi, The DVD cover looks great.I've one suggestion though, the many number of rounded edged squares/rectangles in the cover(especially the front) makes it kind of still /action less/boring??? can there be some flowing lines or other shapes(Organic perhaps, not just the basic shapes)? On Mon,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-06 Thread Angus Fretwell
The tux logo seems completely irrelevant to me, and I'm not sure how relevant the gnome one is, either. I would try using less effects (gradients, shadows, etc.). I think it should also be more visually relevant to the Ubuntu website. Just some thoughts, great work, though. On 07/02/2011, at

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-01-11 Thread Сергей
IMO the covers are very nice, but the previews look cluttered and scary. It's hard to understand where is the cover and where is the info about it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art