Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
Even if these designs are never used, you are showing that open source software can be used to make very professional-quality artwork. Thanks. Yeah, I used to work in Freehand a few years ago and that was an awesome application, but inkscape is now equally powerful imho. Actually, there is a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Friday 09 February 2007 18:44:46 Donn wrote: Hello out there, For some reason I found myself designing symbols to express the ideas in the post asking for apport icons. Great work! Looks really nice. I have never seen apport (besides some screenshots) and I use Kubuntu, so I am sure I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Nacho de los Ríos Tormo
The bug icons are very cute and very well done. However, before they are used to represent the concept bug-report I would like to argue that the images map to the concept through the polysemy of the word bug in English (insect and defect in a program), and so they won't work well for people

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
Hi, Thanks for your great feedback. I've tried the icon on my boyfriend, and he was totally clueless; he offered possibilities such as notepad, or drawing, but he did not guess what the bug meant in the first place. It is not a statistically meaningful experiment, but he's an architect used to

[ubuntu-art] Res: Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread lbpemail-linux
I think that Nacho's put an important point. Here in Brazil the icons would work well, because we don't translate a lot of the computer terms, for exemple we say bug, and created the verb bugar, and I think that anyone who uses computers knows at most a little of english (like me!). But I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
Well, taking the comments so far I had time to try a new approach. This one is very simple and does not rely on specialist words/memes. I thought about error and bug and report and the one word that stood out was broken. From there I asked myself how would I portray a broken application; the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Alex Jones
We could re-use the icon that's used for the Force Quit GNOME Panel applet, the picture of a window with a big crack down it. I think that signifies broken program as well as anything else could. On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 12:14 +0200, Donn wrote: Hi, Thanks for your great feedback. I've tried the

[ubuntu-art] Res: Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Leandro Paganelli
wow! Thats really very good! Much better than the other ones! - Mensagem original De: Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviadas: Sábado, 10 de Fevereiro de 2007 12:37:53 Assunto: Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Jones wrote: We could re-use the icon that's used for the Force Quit GNOME Panel applet, the picture of a window with a big crack down it. I think that signifies broken program as well as anything else could. This is heading down the route

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
We really need to quit grasping and simply accept the fact that the language barriers are symptomatic of the word 'universal' being completely a foolish puff of smoke to even _attempt_ to pursue. Aye. Agreed. From a practical integration element -- it also must _readily_ fit into the the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Nacho de los Ríos Tormo
Donn escribió: Hi, Thanks for your great feedback. I've tried the icon on my boyfriend, and he was totally clueless; he offered possibilities such as notepad, or drawing, but he did not guess what the bug meant in the first place. It is not a statistically meaningful experiment, but he's

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donn wrote: From a practical integration element -- it also must _readily_ fit into the the Human scheme. At the very least, it should be based on the Human warning type symbols. (Yet another reason we need DESIGN guidelines for Human.) Have

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
Have you a link for me? I have found the artwork links on the wiki to be pretty confusing. Then again, I've been distracted. Well there aren't any ;). Ah right, I walked into that one :) Currently, if you wish to develop in the Human style, you will need to use your package manager to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Donn
In Unix, a traditional icon for a command shell is ... a shell! Unfortunately, it reads as clam or snail in other languages. I always thought the literal shell image was corny, but visual puns are easy to use and easy to learn -- as long as you speak the lingo... log -- as in captain's log

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Jean Pierre Rupp
El sáb, 10-02-2007 a las 19:26 +0100, Nacho de los Ríos Tormo escribió: It happens a lot more than you might think, and there are some examples that might be found hilarious. In Unix, a traditional icon for a command shell is ... a shell! Unfortunately, it reads as clam or snail in other

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Jean Pierre Rupp
El sáb, 10-02-2007 a las 21:49 +0200, Donn escribió: I would hope that such a voting system may *at least* float the most communicative icons/images to the surface, but I just don't know what will happen. Still, no-one but a local of the native language in their locale will know best what

[ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-10 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi all, Some of you may saw the new feisty artwork arriving. This artwork is not stamped alpha. So, let's discuss about it :). As of today, only usplash and gnome wallpaper has been updated. First, i really like the new wallpaper. Even if i find it too pinky, i really love the smoothness of the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Apport icons -- merely some ideas

2007-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jean Pierre Rupp wrote: In short, we should make the artwork based on the concepts, and not the words. In short, concepts are culturally based. The idea of locale-based icons is great, but of course it would be a huge task to undertake for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Étienne Bersac wrote: Also, who made this artwork ? Is ubuntu-art only a place to comment new artwork ;) ? It feel like we forgot to plan community themes :| kwwii -- Ken, created the new art. You should know by now Et, don't expect planning.