Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 14:01 +0100, julian wrote: as i've said earlier, i'm into the idea of a public vote on mockups (and including the current theme) made by list members within the first two 6-8 weeks of each release cycle. i think most of the time ubuntu-art is shooting in the dark, so to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread julian
..on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 11:14:49AM +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 00:27 +0100, julian wrote: then so be it. i strongly believe Ubuntu artwork development needs to follow the same consensual process as any other aspect of the project's development: users needs to be

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread Ken Vermette
On Dec 27, 2007 5:45 AM, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 14:01 +0100, julian wrote: as i've said earlier, i'm into the idea of a public vote on mockups (and including the current theme) made by list members within the first two 6-8 weeks of each release

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread julian
..on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 01:59:53PM -0800, Ken Vermette wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 5:45 AM, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 14:01 +0100, julian wrote: as i've said earlier, i'm into the idea of a public vote on mockups (and including the current theme)

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread Thomas L.G
I think we should do some forum vote. Not to make the whole decision, but as a guideline. Ubuntuforums is rather big, so the feedback would probably be pretty good as well. From noobs to geeks... Also, in some time, we should have some prototype, and be able to test it on target users, and

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-27 Thread Cory K.
julian wrote: even mockups to this list are distributed across several wikis and sites in a way that is not productive when getting a sense of the overall scope of contributed designs. what i'm talking about is not too dissimilar from this: http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ ..

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-26 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 00:27 +0100, julian wrote: then so be it. i strongly believe Ubuntu artwork development needs to follow the same consensual process as any other aspect of the project's development: users needs to be able to report what they consider 'bugs' in the art and design aspects

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-26 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 21:37 +0100, Damian Vila wrote: But the problem is not at brown vs. blue (or green or whatever). I've never questioned the use of color. I rather constrained to the given guidelines. And I believe this is the way I should work if I want to collaborate with Ubuntu. What

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 10:04 -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: Thorsten Wilms wrote: Having a clearly defined target audience would be of advantage. But I have to say that during my industrial design studies, this part was mostly guesswork. Then you didn't go to a very good school or

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-25 Thread Damian Vila
Troy James Sobotka escribió: The point of choosing an audience is not exactly as murky as you wish to paint it. It is perhaps one of the most valuable discussions this list has _ever_ seen. Unfortunately, in the end, the default installations presence and audience are outside of the scope

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-25 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thorsten Wilms wrote: For projects taking 4 months max, the time you can spend worrying about your target audience is quite limited. Perhaps ignoring the time constraints is worthy? Maybe get the 'broad' strokes in place then finesse in the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-25 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Damian Vila wrote: And Ubuntu won't be brown, that's for sure. I wonder if the trend toward eco friendly products could be embraced by a very 'earthy' feeling operating system. (Well 'earthy' in the 'idea', not the presentation) Unbleached CD

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-25 Thread julian
..on Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 06:19:28PM +0100, Damian Vila wrote: Troy James Sobotka escribió: The point of choosing an audience is not exactly as murky as you wish to paint it. It is perhaps one of the most valuable discussions this list has _ever_ seen. Unfortunately, in the end, the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 22:58 -0600, xl cheese wrote: That is the question we need to ask. Do we want to target noobs to linux or the vets of linux? Maybe I'm wrong, but new linux and novice computer users are typically enticed with eye candy. It's the veteran linux users that like

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-24 Thread Andrew Laignel
Firstly Merry Christmas - I am off and wont be back 'till after. Hope santa is good to you all! Secondly I agree. When I undertake a traditional graphic design project or website, I'll usually do a mockup, the client will then say if they like it/hate it and suggest changes. When your

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 11:18 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: ... I had users and environment, so I should also mention tasks. Quick draft: - Research - Browsing the web - Communicate - Email - Chat - VoIP - Video conferencing - Create - Graphics - Photography - Graphic design

Re: [ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-24 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thorsten Wilms wrote: Having a clearly defined target audience would be of advantage. But I have to say that during my industrial design studies, this part was mostly guesswork. Then you didn't go to a very good school or for long enough. We

[ubuntu-art] Who is our target audience?

2007-12-23 Thread xl cheese
That is the question we need to ask. Do we want to target noobs to linux or the vets of linux? Maybe I'm wrong, but new linux and novice computer users are typically enticed with eye candy. It's the veteran linux users that like things functional and plain. I would submit that we want