[ubuntu-art] Wall-light

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Hi, I'd just like to show my support, as many other people positively had, for this theme: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Mockup_Designs Cheers. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Wall-light

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I suspect part of the issue is that people are associating new and fresh themes with OS X or Vista, since those both were there 'first'. Like... *is* there a nice, new, theme that's not associated with them by anyone? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Wall-light

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexi Helligar wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto

Re: [ubuntu-art] Wall-light

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Klaus Bitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still didn't get it. There's a setting in Gmail somewhere or simply start typing at the bottom. ;) There isn't a setting, but you can simply hit Ctrl+End once you opened the reply window. Related question, are we

Re: [ubuntu-art] Iconset ideas

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I'd like to throw in HumanElephant-Savane ( http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8148/screenshot8uj5.png), however I don't have a link to the theme. The one I find on gnome-look now doesn't look the same as the copy I have :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Kin Piano Progress

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Hard to tell much from the screenshot, but if this applies - don't see why is the titlebar text italized, it makes it look kind of odd and not really pretty. Also hiding the _[]X buttons by default would be a screaming usability with common people. -- ubuntu-art mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-art] Iconset ideas

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Pretty nice, but the _[]X really need to stay. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] New Human Icons

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
They look beautiful, I really can't complain. But can the trash icon stay like it is? In many countries, that paper bin isn't really associated with trash so well (and I don't recognize it as trash at first either. More like an icon I saw from macs). Not sure if anyone else outside of NA has

Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top-posting. (*sigh*)

2008-08-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I think it's because Ubuntu artwork made it on Digg again, and a lot of people joined the list who aren't familiar with them at all. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu mockup

2008-08-05 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Seen that mockup too. It is simply beautiful. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] new to group

2008-08-06 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sup bra make sure you take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette so you don't get flamed :P I learned the hard way The Proper quoting section is the one you should really pay attention to... the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I don't really like all of the gray. It's possibly the least exciting color their is, nevermind that it's already associated with another OS. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *snip* The default theme though should be something that is acceptable to everyone. If we go by that, then let's stick with 8.04 human one, as that one is acceptable by everyone quite well do (and it gets originality points!). I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Bharat Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the theme and modified the Window background color to a more gilouche-ish shade (#FBF9F5) I have attached a few screenshots - Setup - Hardy Heron, Liberation Fonts, White on Black Terminal profile with a

Re: [ubuntu-art] My Idea - Dude Theme

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Not bad, but the overly curvy buttons just look a bit weird. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Progress

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
It's pretty nice (the Applications menu and such), but the button and scrollbar style isn't exactly appealing. It's the blending-gray color also... -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Progress

2008-08-07 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Also there are some complaints from GTK: /home/vadi/.themes/New Wave/gtk-2.0/panel.rc:4: Invalid symbolic color 'bg_color' /home/vadi/.themes/New Wave/gtk-2.0/panel.rc:4: error: invalid identifier `bg_color', expected valid identifier /home/vadi/.themes/New Wave/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1925: Background

Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-08 Thread Vadim Peretokin
After using it a bit and giving it to my mom and younger sister to you, the tiny _[]X buttons became a really big usability problem. The Human buttons were nice a big, and these are so tiny - they're actually having troubles clicking on it (and much frustration at not being able to do such a basic

Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-08 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Well, keep in mind that you're aiming for the default theme here. Elegance is for themes sitting on gnome-look or ubuntu-art :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] dark theme probs

2008-08-09 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Alt+leftclick should not at all be relied as the primary way to move the window. Many people simply don't know about it when starting out. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuition gtk-theme

2008-08-09 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I don't believe that emerald themes are going to be default in 8.10... at least I haven't heard any such news. So it's a metacity theme (which is run by Compiz's gtk-window-decorator). I couldn't install your theme however: Intuition_by_newversion2.gz does not appear to be a valid theme. --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuition gtk-theme

2008-08-09 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I couldn't get it to work. Can you upload it to mediafire.com or something similar? That won't mess with the files. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Background Concept

2008-08-10 Thread Vadim Peretokin
It certainly is beautiful, but wouldn't a blurry wallpaper imply a blurry future? :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme engines

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
'CLASSIC' seems okay, but 'MODERN' is a bit painful on the eyes that they have. Anyway, it's about the end theme, not the engine that matters :\ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
It's known, thanks. That is just a mockup, so unless there's a real thing that the author can show, it doesn't help much... -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I like it too. Now just to have the real thing to test, not a mockup :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Joshua Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has a rounded corner, too: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712 Now that is a totally different story! --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme engines

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Or maybe even a google doc. No registration needed if you have a good account. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme engines

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Oh I agree. That is a nice, unique look. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme engines

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
You can get that theme from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_GTK_proposal?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=Human-2.tar.gz The buttons, the combo boxes, tabs, and the general colour look nice. However the Applications menu doesn't quite work - the downsized

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

2008-08-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I kind of missed this discussion on rounded windows.. why aren't they possible? I have such a theme that does them right now. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme engines

2008-08-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:07 AM, George Kendros [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm pretty much in complete agreement with you. I think that pic of the calculator with one button pressed in looks great. The only place where I differ is the tabs. I think it looks weird having the active tab look

Re: [ubuntu-art] Transparency

2008-08-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
There is no 'Ubuntu Design Team'. There is 'Ubuntu Art Team'... and this is their mailing list, heh. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Brown rocks. Get over it and being default.

2008-08-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I don't understand where is this brown so prominent that it's bad... it's mostly orange that I see. (and the wallpaper on 8.04 rocks) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Brown rocks. Get over it and being default.

2008-08-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Steely grey themes imply mac os ones, and Ubuntu can't do anything to help that. People would just need to get that theme themselves and install it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Brown rocks. Get over it and being default.

2008-08-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Ubuntu already uses a light grey by default, no? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

[ubuntu-art] Looking over 8.04 designs

2008-08-13 Thread Vadim Peretokin
After seeing this theme (clickhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union) that was designed for 8.04, I'm wondering - can we look at the designs proposed for hardy too? A lot of good themes were deferred because of the LTS and blah blah, but with the new theme changes promised

Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave on Gnome-Look.org

2008-08-14 Thread Vadim Peretokin
'New Wave Beta Pack 0.5 does not appear to be a valid theme.' =( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2

2008-08-14 Thread Vadim Peretokin
You do interact with tabs... you click on them, like buttons. I like the new tabs, but they don't flow into the main part of the widget too nicely yet. Also, I'm not yet convinced by the new _[]X button design, it looks... bit off. The current 8.04 one looks better still. Could you show us how

Re: [ubuntu-art] Help with Art design of Ubuntu

2008-08-17 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Here's how it works in short form. Everyone makes their theme/wallpaper/etc, and submit it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/. Then people discuss the art on this list, make tweaks etc., and in the end when the artwork deadline comes, pray that whatever gods choose ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Dust Theme

2008-08-18 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I don't see _[], which are very much essential. Not too impressed again by the metal grey and the overall dark, sad theme though. But that's my humble opinion here. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Dust Theme

2008-08-18 Thread Vadim Peretokin
A poll for the visual look of something is really bad - there are professional designers for a reason, and that's because they know what they're doing best. The poll would also not represent everybody who'll be using the OS - the old gramdma, the office worker, or Facebook addict. Simply because

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Dust Theme

2008-08-18 Thread Vadim Peretokin
If you want a nice theme, use Vista. No, really, their professional art team did make a good theme. But I guess people that are switching from Vista to Ubuntu aren't doing it for the looks. Here's a short read on why voting will not work:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Dust Theme

2008-08-18 Thread Vadim Peretokin
You already have your polls then on Digg.com. Cheers, -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Naxos Intrepid, My new concept idea of theme.

2008-08-22 Thread Vadim Peretokin
It's pretty nice, I like it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Tossing some Window decorations into the pot.

2008-08-30 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I like it! Has a ubuntu big-rectangle-button look to it, while taking using the good idea of standing out the X button. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] introduction

2008-09-01 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I have no official position whatsoever, so don't take my word for this. But it would be nice if ubuntu-art.org had a section for 8.10 artwork discussion - where artists could upload their work and get user feedback. Similar to this list, but I suppose that would get a lot more coverage. --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust + Willibex

2008-09-02 Thread Vadim Peretokin
It looks pretty good, but the _[]X buttons on an inactive window are too dark to be able to recognize them. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu.

2008-09-02 Thread Vadim Peretokin
So you'd like to change from one icon guideline to another based on your personal preference? May I ask why? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming)

2008-09-02 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Well, that's the point here, bring over KDE 4's Oxygen into Gnome. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Folder Icon challenge.

2008-09-03 Thread Vadim Peretokin
How about *Zephyr* which is English for a gentle breeze. That word directly in Russian means a type of candy though: http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%80stype=image -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] introduction

2008-09-03 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Looks great, thanks! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon Library

2008-09-10 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Yup, the bzr looks good. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
This is also a team that doesn't help style projects that are created for Ubuntu (and linux). -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I wouldn't agree with that, since I don't agree with Cory's design initiative. It's better if it's a community art team. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Why is there a need? Here's how it works - art team provides themes, Canonical chooses. That won't change. So what change would you like? Have a boss who tells each artist what to do or? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I see no clearly proposed solution except something, I don't know what, needs to be done!. By the way, mailing lists are how people cooperate on the Internet. Really. It's been done so for decades even. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list should change, just that team should not be synonymous with the mailing list. Well, then, I resign from this conversation, because I see

Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Naxos Theme

2008-09-20 Thread Vadim Peretokin
The theme looks beautiful but I find the sandy-yellow coloring to be hard on my eyes :-/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Naxos Theme

2008-09-21 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Yes try that. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Briefing, Top Level G oals of Ubuntu

2008-09-24 Thread Vadim Peretokin
How will you go about copyright? I see Tango icons being used in a lot of places (commercial and no commercial) with zero credit whatsoever (or, at best, a COPYRIGHT file hidden away in some svn trunk, and not even displayed in the instance of). Not that it's a bad thing, but if the copyright

Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō Copyright

2008-09-24 Thread Vadim Peretokin
CC-BY sounds great. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67

2008-09-26 Thread Vadim Peretokin
A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme also... everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was being tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But with no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope of the

Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67

2008-09-26 Thread Vadim Peretokin
GUI's didn't exist in the 80's in this form, there's a reason why Gnome is the leading DE, there's a reason why Ubuntu is winning every distro usage poll, and there's a reason this art team is here. You seem to be completely clueless, so please read first before posting. Thank you. --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

2008-09-27 Thread Vadim Peretokin
There is a fork of Cinerella, called Linerella or something like that. But yeah, movie editing for the average human on Linux is out of reach, unless you're a Hollywood movie studio. But I don't even want to know the prices on that software. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ky?d?: Audience and Message

2008-09-28 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Thanks for the heads up, I'll test it once it's ready: This our second ALPHA release. Please do bear in mind it contains bugs and is not meant for general usage (yet) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

[ubuntu-art] Let the disappointments begin?

2008-09-30 Thread Vadim Peretokin
There have been dissapointed followers at each and every release of the Ubuntu 8.10 alpha: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Alpha_6_Ubuntu http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Alpha_5_Screenshot_Tour_The_Intrepid_Ibex_Chro http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Alpha_4_Screenshot_Tour