For #1: For some anecdotal evidence, since Hardy came out, I've been
using the stock version of that on this same hardware. I haven't
noticed anything directly, but then I haven't been trying to test it out
as thoroughly.
For #2: Would this work as a cpu-intensive process?
test.c
int
Hi Leann,
Finally got myself to test Hardy again against my computer.
Unfortunately nothing changes. However, I produced shot with photo cam
(as it is kernel messages which are hard to dump to text file) to see
reset and I/O messages in console while I am trying to copy stuff from
one directory
Still occuring on hardy.
upstream bug is https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/1396 .
I had a conversation with a developer in their IRC channel, they said
that this bug is not going to be fixed because no more work is being
done on the wxwidgets interface. I then asked why wxwidgets interface is
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227952
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Subscribed Jeroen, hinted by Colin on IRC.
So, the debian-installer itself is reportedly fixed, remaining are:
1. Getting the strings to Rosetta
2. Remembering to actually collect the translated strings later, preferably
some weeks before the 8.04.1 release so they can be tested in the daily
I look on the ubuntu forums and i found that the problem is when you try
to add a share that use password.
this is the post with the screenshots of errors
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726543
Maybe the duplicate icon access in the desktop is because of this... not
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A short content of /var/log/messages
May 15 14:34:50 dell-op755-02 kernel: [21592.721497] gnome-terminal[15072]:
segfault at 0037 eip b78e1275 esp bf872da0 error 4
May 15 14:43:04 dell-op755-02 kernel: [22085.212083] gnome-terminal[15097]:
segfault at 006c eip b7929275 esp bf8c55f0
Conn, why can we forget about nspluginwrapper? I thought it was you who
first extolled its benefits in terms of performance and reliability?
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With firefox 2, the toolbar dictionary for a french web site was working.
now, I can't use it.
http://dictionnaire.tv5.org/tool/bar_dicotv5.xpi
When I want to install, I have a message told me that it isn't allow with
firefox 3.0b5
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/230702
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Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: evince
Evince and EOG are, in a way, similar apps: their purpose is to view
specific kinds of documents.
Having their sidebars look the same would increase visual integration. I
think Evince's sidebar should look like EOG's, mimicking the rounded
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I have an HP Compaq nx7400 laptop that will no longer suspend to RAM.
It worked with 7.10 and through the upgrade to 8.04 days after it's
release. Within the last week it broke. I don't think there have been
any kernel updates withing the last week, so I think in my case at least
it's a
Good one ...
I manage to get it to run without patching - just disabling Powermanagement
entirely for the chip - and not starting any Screen-Lock/Saver
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218334
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nossal: my hypothesis is that SQLite in trackerd is attempting to lock a
file in NFS which fails and causes it to hang. However, it's clear from
Ville's report and yours that perhaps other things may be at fault.
Can you re-install the tracker packages, relogin (to restart all trackerd in a
A simple solution is to update your soffice.bin wrapper script:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~# diff /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.distr
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice
263a264,266
if [ -f $arg ]; then
chmod 644 $arg
fi
Of course one can sophisticate it more.
And this doesn't solve
The same for me using HP/Compaq 6720s laptop with Ubuntu Hardy, which is
up to date
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Have the same problem with Hardy 8.04 AMD64
At boot, nfs-kernel-server doesn't make the NFS shares from exports
available, I have to do /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart to get it
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Starting OpenVPN with parameters --management 127.0.0.1 7505
--management-query-passwords should start management console listening
on tcp port 7505. But openssl-vulnkey that is run by openvpn process
expects to read key pass phrase from stdin and blocks tcp connections on
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: casper
find_cow_devices in scripts/casper-helpers explicitly requires a vfat
filesystem.
The limitation is needlessly restrictive.
There is already a FIXME in there:
if [ ${devfstype} = vfat ] || [ ${devfstype} = ext2 ] ; then #
FIXME: all supported
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ok i found another solution rather than the reboot, i open the keyboard
preferences and then on tab layout i add any layout and then remove it
again and then close where the keyboard get back to work well.
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So, I had an issue with building from source (gvimtutor issues, I'm not
familiar with how dpkg works enough to fix it), so I'm using this
person's ppa for vim, for now. Using the hardy ver, but at least it's
vim patched to 285.
https://launchpad.net/~towolf/+archive
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Sorry, this bug still exist on a clean hardy installation:
AMD 780G chipset
Linux max2 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64
GNU/Linux
Ubuntu 2.6.24-16.30-generic
After burning a dvd I got a very busy system and the following in the log:
May 15 12:56:36 max2 -- MARK --
I had exactly the same issue with my laptop, a Gigabyte W251U, after
installing Hardy (also with Fedora 9 btw).
After a lot of research in forums, I ultimately got it right by adding
(to alsa-base):
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-micsense
Now the sound works fine, either through the
I have the same laptop the same problem (except that I am using the x86_64
version of Hardy).
After a lot of research, I finally found a cure which worked for me.
In alsa-base, add the following line:
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-micsense
Now the sound works as it should!
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Binary package hint: casper
check_dev in scripts/casper could be made more flexible if it was
possible to look for a casper fs (is_casper_path) within an arbitrary
path. At the moment check_dev supports scanning either devices or ISOs.
This could be implemented with the
I've been using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn for several days from i posted
the bug, and the computer didn't hang. So, I can confirm that's a bug in
the kernel.
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i know there are several reasons why this bug could be apearing
I happend to get this error to in my log 100's of times. I tried blacklisting
my firewire modules as i assumed they were the problem but the are not.
I found out this error only gets printed in my log when my cpu fan is
turning and
Hum... It seems there is not so much Toshiba laptops in ubuntu test
labs? Thats bad as their laptop hardware is usually good at testing
linux-acpi tolerance to bios (claiming they are acpi ones! They may be
kidding!) coded by the cream of the worst programmers using their foots.
A real shame for a
After upgrading from gutsy to hardy WPA stopped working with the new
kernel. I can connect if I setup the router with no security, which is
obviously not an option. Luckily I can still boot into the old kernel,
so I can get wifi working again. When is this problem going to be
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Same here. After importing google calendar evolution crashes each time I
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With hardy, when I open a remote folder over ssh (via the Places -
Connect to server menu item from the panel), the folder shows the
basename of the remote folder, but not the hostname. With gutsy, it
showed the hostname as well.
Gutsy: liw on
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I already tried setting option hid pb_fnmode=2 in both /etc/modprobe.conf
as well as /etc/modprobe.d/options - neither had any effect on a reboot.
Raphael, you're doing it correctly.
You must add option hid pb_fnmode=2 in /etc/modprobe.d/options.
AND you must regenerate your initrd image with
Helle : Since this bug is fixed, the bug you have is probably not the
same even if it's almost identical. Please open a new bug report for
linux and follow instructions here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies to provide necessary
informations to help kernel developers. If you want, you
This is a regression in intel driver v2.2.1 and fixed in 2.3.0
Jean Baptiste,
Just for interest, how did you find out about this? Is there a particular
patch in Xorg that fixes this? I'm looking at:
Setting back to new as requested info has been provided.
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Do you know that rule, KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)? I don't always try
the obvious. I just choose the last kernel (2.6.24-16-generic) in my
grub menu and now my laptop suspends and resumes properly. Something
related to 2.6.24-17-generic has broken my ability to suspend.
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I can confirm that using the kernel 2.6.25.2 from www.kernel.org fixes the
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What is the next step in ubuntu 8 ?
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** Bug watch added: Linux Kernel Bug Tracker #9753
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9753
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66900
hi Sebastian!
really thanks on changing all the tags of the [needs-packaging] messages
i posted - they are all packages very missing on the Ubuntu repository
i'm very curious to see them! :-)
regards,
Paulo
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** Also affects: medintux
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Status: New
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License: CeCILL
Homepage:
*
I have exactly same problem.
And even my account is member of video already, this problem is occured. -
Ashley Yakeley, your problem may be diffrent problem to this.
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Yes this problem still exists even in Hardy. See my post at
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Same problem on a Toshiba P100, at least for STR (that also suffered from other
problems, I solved in another bug report)... Problem that lasts since Dapper on
this laptop (with alsa 1.0.14 recompiled, as dapper 1.0.10 was not supporting
connexant codec).
Unloading/reloading alsa at suspend
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Binary package hint: brasero
There is a spelling mistake in the German translation of brasero
0.3.1-3ubuntu1 on Hardi 04.08 64bit.
The question in the dialog box whether brasero should be the default CD burning
application is:
Möchten Sie das Brasero das
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Yes, Aktawa!
Problem was in corrupted /etc/network/interfaces after upgrade.
And yes, I think it's solved. Solution is here for history.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/193935
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Sympy, you're right! It *seems* to be fixed in linux-
image-2.6.24-16-generic. I was loading the newly-installed linux-
image-2.6.24-17-generic (i'm assuming this was installed with the
proposed updates). what's the safest way to remove this?
also, should I keep updating proposed updates in
I see that the bug has been triaged. I also suffer from the bug. I'm
running an up-to-date Gutsy install (uname -r = 2.6.22-14-generic).
cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/C20C/state always returns open. Closing lid
to standby works in vista, so it's not hardware failure.
Unfortunately, dmesg doesn't
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In the spanish 2.4 version of Open Office (installed on Ubuntu 8.04) I
have found the following error:
I have several tabs:
· Catálogo
· Alcances (with an id and a description)
· Familias (with an id and a description)
·
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Binary package hint: firefox-3.0
I am running Ubuntu Hardy Heron with Firefox version 3.0b5 and Fluxbox
1.0.0. If I use the close button for the Firefox window, it does not
close like other applications do. I have to choose FileQuit to quit
Firefox.
** Affects:
This is not 100% reproducible. If I figure out the case where it
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speaker still work)
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I also get the error message(Failed to initialze HAL!) from a fresh
install of Hardy 8.04. cat I moved /etc/rc2.d/24hal to /etc/rc2.d/26.d
after reading the many trouble reports. I am now able to start hal
manually with $ sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start All of the functionality,
(network, etc)
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Status: New
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/223948
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ok...i think this prob is related to my sys hardware...iam having this
prob in windows also.oklets answer ur questions...
1)MPlayer
2)no...it doesnt happen at the same location.the video plays for
alittle time and gets struckafter 2min it gets struck...now iam
getting struck
Thanks for these informations. If you remember it, can you say which
resolution you had in /etc/usplash.conf before you changed it? 640x480?
Also can you attach the file created by this command in a terminal so we
can know your graphic card? sudo lspci -vvnn lspci-vvnn.txt
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Vincent;
I can confirm that the initrc.gz file you submitted fixes this issue (at
least for me) when using Xubuntu 8.04
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Kookabura thanks! your suggestion works perfectly on my toshiba
p100-PSPAGE
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-micsense
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I have the same problem:
Printing of some PDF files to a PostScript printer is
very very very slow and produces a poor quality. It looks rasterised.
I did some tests with LaTeX producing the PDF file and found the
following: I can use the same LaTeX source only switching the
ffmpeg has been superseded by ffmpeg-free, which is newer. I think
ffmpeg will be removed from intrepid soon.
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Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: firefox-3.0
i have installed ubuntu with wubi inside windows. Pc specification (AMD4000X2,
HD WD 160GB, ASUS MB with nividia built in vga card, RAM 1 GB DDR2,)
the problem:
Firefox of ubuntu 8.04 crashes when opening:
1- More than one tab
2- when
Without dmraid support at install, Ubuntu becomes practically
inaccessible to a lot of inexperienced users. Exactly the crowd that it
typically attracts. So dmraid should be avaliable as soon as possible,
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I have tried the blacklisting of sonypi using the above instructions,
but it still does not work. I am now running Hardy Heron on this machine
as well.
I do have a workaround solution in place. I discovered that I can run
smartdimmer to change brightness without needing to use sudo. I used
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In my Xubuntu 7.10, happens de same:
Installation using synaptics of the following packets: glob2, glob2-data.
The game runs well, but THERE ISN'T ANY CAMPAIGN, only the tutorial.
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** Changed in: bzr-builddeb (Ubuntu)
Importance: Wishlist = Undecided
Status: Incomplete = Invalid
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bzrlib.errors.ObjectNotLocked: KnitPackRepository('...') is not locked error
when using --merge mode
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/206013
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I hope, this is a translate problem. I installed xubuntu-default-settings
package and change desktop, Xfce menu is empty. I installed Xubuntu Turkish,
xfce menu is a empty.
I changed menu file adress and i fixed this problem.
Default menu adress: /etc/X11/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
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I've got the same problem in Hardy final release.
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[Hardy] USB Flash storage device recognized twice
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218614
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I have the same problem.
I can mount and browse shares using nautilus or smbmount but i cannot read or
write files.
Files Permissions are OK.
The server is Windows 2003 pc that shares a public access directory (no
username/pass required)
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no way to read and write files on mounted samba share
Hi,
I am marking this bug as Invalid, as this rule is no longer enforced.
If there are other problems that are not reported as python exceptions I would
be happy to fix it, and as I work I will try to ensure that I make sure I do
this.
Thanks,
James
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ski,
We can forget about nspluginwrapper (and libflashsupport) to reduce
complexity, that's all. With versions of Flash prior to v10 beta, the
basic equation was:
a) Flash = audio is not directed to PulseAudio, therefore sounds cannot mix.
However, Flash does not crash.
b) Flash + configuration
Hardy heron here with the same problem otherwise. I have tried the fix
out there where delete the folders and files in
~/.evolution/mail/exchange and that seems to help sometimes, but then
you have the resync problem, and it doesnt always work and you are stuck
with trying to send email when this
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