[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-06-09 Thread Robert C Jennings
With the stable package in trusty/utopic I am going to close this bug. ** Changed in: open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu.

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-06-09 Thread Robert C Jennings
With the stable package in trusty/utopic I am going to close this bug. ** Changed in: open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269985

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
vmci_* symbols should be provided by vmw_vmci kernel module (CONFIG_VMWARE_VMCI), is it enabled in kernel config? You should also enable CONFIG_VSOCKETS and CONFIG_VMWARE_VMCI_VSOCKETS. That of course leaves the normal kernel API churn that needs to be dealt with in hgfs driver as being the only

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Ravindra Kumar
I agree with John. It looks like you have built the package without specifying --without-kernel-modules option to configure. Given that all the kernel modules except vmhgfs have been upstreamed to the Linux kernel, you need to tell configure to exclude kernel modules from the build you intend to

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Also the lack of frequent (monthly) updates, also forced me to delay filing paperwork to give me upload (maintainer) rights for the package during the Saucy. Which probably would've given me a voice when moving to Stable (to stop it). -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Ravindra, It is built with --without-kernel-modules, I had to check the revision changelog, it stayed. Also, I've linked the Saucy branch to this bug, so you can see my previous changes. Another reason I'm still kind of fighting is because the Ubuntu-specific changes made, still might not be

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
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[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, We would definitely advise against using the monthly releases in shipped products as they are and always been developer preview type of release and receive very limited testing as opposed to stable releases which go through much more rigorous testing. That said if you have changes to the

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, Looking at dkms files I still see references to vmblock and vmxnet, which are obsolete. You also seem to be building vsock out of open-vm- tools, but it has been accepted in the kernel proper so should be comping from there. Thanks, Dmitry -- You received this bug notification because

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry (#8), As you are well aware, Ubuntu uses the bleeding edge kernels, and one of the nice things about devel packages was that, when they were being released on a more frequent rate), the devel releases where more quicker to adapt to the newest (release candidate) kernels. I know stable

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry (#9), All the modules are being compiled (except ones that have caused build failures), but only vmxnet and vmhgfs are being installed/used. Speaking of vmxnet, I assume the pcnet32 is recommended over vmxnet. If so, I can just remove vmxnet from the install. I think Debian only

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry, I don't think we're using the built in-kernel vmblock. That's what's one of the reasons I wanted to keep the Devel package (for the moment) is because I had some specific changes for Ubuntu, that weren't in Debian. Some other ones were removing manpages of modules that have been removed

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, The other distributions are fine with using stable releases recommended by us as they see it as the least risky options, especially since these are versions that we intend to support. RHEL and Fedora actually have policy against using out of tree drivers, so their requirement was to compile

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
vmci_* symbols should be provided by vmw_vmci kernel module (CONFIG_VMWARE_VMCI), is it enabled in kernel config? You should also enable CONFIG_VSOCKETS and CONFIG_VMWARE_VMCI_VSOCKETS. That of course leaves the normal kernel API churn that needs to be dealt with in hgfs driver as being the only

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Ravindra Kumar
I agree with John. It looks like you have built the package without specifying --without-kernel-modules option to configure. Given that all the kernel modules except vmhgfs have been upstreamed to the Linux kernel, you need to tell configure to exclude kernel modules from the build you intend to

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/saucy/open-vm-tools -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269985 Title: Revert package back to Devel release To manage notifications about this bug go to:

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Also the lack of frequent (monthly) updates, also forced me to delay filing paperwork to give me upload (maintainer) rights for the package during the Saucy. Which probably would've given me a voice when moving to Stable (to stop it). -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Ravindra, It is built with --without-kernel-modules, I had to check the revision changelog, it stayed. Also, I've linked the Saucy branch to this bug, so you can see my previous changes. Another reason I'm still kind of fighting is because the Ubuntu-specific changes made, still might not be

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, We would definitely advise against using the monthly releases in shipped products as they are and always been developer preview type of release and receive very limited testing as opposed to stable releases which go through much more rigorous testing. That said if you have changes to the

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, Looking at dkms files I still see references to vmblock and vmxnet, which are obsolete. You also seem to be building vsock out of open-vm- tools, but it has been accepted in the kernel proper so should be comping from there. Thanks, Dmitry -- You received this bug notification because

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry (#8), As you are well aware, Ubuntu uses the bleeding edge kernels, and one of the nice things about devel packages was that, when they were being released on a more frequent rate), the devel releases where more quicker to adapt to the newest (release candidate) kernels. I know stable

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry (#9), All the modules are being compiled (except ones that have caused build failures), but only vmxnet and vmhgfs are being installed/used. Speaking of vmxnet, I assume the pcnet32 is recommended over vmxnet. If so, I can just remove vmxnet from the install. I think Debian only

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Nate Muench (Mink)
Dmitry, I don't think we're using the built in-kernel vmblock. That's what's one of the reasons I wanted to keep the Devel package (for the moment) is because I had some specific changes for Ubuntu, that weren't in Debian. Some other ones were removing manpages of modules that have been removed

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-22 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
Nate, The other distributions are fine with using stable releases recommended by us as they see it as the least risky options, especially since these are versions that we intend to support. RHEL and Fedora actually have policy against using out of tree drivers, so their requirement was to compile

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread Ben Howard
** Changed in: open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Robert Jennings (rcj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269985 Title: Revert package back to

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread Ben Howard
Nick, I am sorry for the betrayl; the sync was not done maliciously or with malintent. Rather, as part of the work to bring open-vm-tools into main (Bug #1220950), the sync was done. Can you share the failures that you are seeing? I have identified that the vmhgfs fails to load: [386915.338195]

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread John Savanyo
I think the problem is related to including the kernel modules from open-vm-tools that are not necessary because VMware is contributing the kernel modules upstream directly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to open-vm-tools

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread Ben Howard
** Changed in: open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Robert Jennings (rcj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269985 Title: Revert package back to Devel release To

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread Ben Howard
Nick, I am sorry for the betrayl; the sync was not done maliciously or with malintent. Rather, as part of the work to bring open-vm-tools into main (Bug #1220950), the sync was done. Can you share the failures that you are seeing? I have identified that the vmhgfs fails to load: [386915.338195]

[Bug 1269985] Re: Revert package back to Devel release

2014-01-21 Thread John Savanyo
I think the problem is related to including the kernel modules from open-vm-tools that are not necessary because VMware is contributing the kernel modules upstream directly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.