[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-12-03 Thread Didier Roche
Hey Gunnar, After reorganizing the seeds for ubuntu desktop and see which strategy we are going to take for the new installer (negative layered langpacks, I can expand on this a little bit later), I think we have a robust story to avoid the unsync we have between language-selector and the

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-22 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2018-10-22 11:19, Didier Roche wrote:> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: >> Please note that the language-options script serves the purpose of >> providing a list of languages only, i.e. it let's the user select >> the display language. That should be distinguished from selecting >> the locale for

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-22 Thread Didier Roche
Yeah, sorry that we had different terms for the same things :) Ok, I understand now as well. I'm trying to look at this whole thing globally and not from the technical split (which is a little bit artificial) that we did. > Please note that the language-options script serves the purpose of

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2018-10-17 08:14, Didier Roche wrote: > When you are telling that you select French, or English, and so, all > dialects should be installed for them, why do we have that separation > in different packages though? Shouldn't we only have one "English", > "French", … package? I now understand

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-17 Thread Didier Roche
When you are telling that you select French, or English, and so, all dialects should be installed for them, why do we have that separation in different packages though? Shouldn't we only have one "English", "French", … package? I don't understand the difference between: $ locale -a | grep ^fr

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-16 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
I think we need to distinguish between what's installed and what the language-options script outputs. Installing a language means that a set of language pack packages are installed. (Let's disregard the language support packages for now.) So when installing French, the French langpacks are

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Roche
I think we should answer some questions first in term of fundamentals. 1. For instance, if I install fr_FR, I don't expect to have fr_CA installed (and it's not the case here), nor fr. Why would that be different for English? I thinks en_US should only install en_US + the common (shared)

[Bug 1797860] Re: Language selection installs too many packages

2018-10-15 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hey Didier, On 2018-10-15 11:13, Didier Roche wrote: > 1. if you select en_GB, en_US is selected instead Yes, if you do a British install, the installer keeps the en_US language support instead. It's bug #173. > 2. if you select fr_FR, fr_FR + en_US is selected Well, yes. English is always