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Will Empathy have OTR (Off The Record) support?
We think that the correct approach to secure end-to-end communications
is to support it natively in the protocol. There is ongoing work on
standardising
could people stop adding comment on that bug? the issue is confirmed and
the bug will be updated when that change, no need to add still no otr
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still no OTR support?! :(
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Yeah, that's the only reason why I still use Pidgin.
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still no OTR support?! :(
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is OTR still not supported?
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@Justin Ryan: I am interested in helping out with this feature. Email
me with the current status; I'm eager.
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One of the advantages of tools like Empathy is the ability to support a
multi-service situation. It allows me to run a single app, and connect
to any service I need.
So does pidgin. And it supports OTR.
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Heck, I cannot even figure out how to have Empathy support multiple
statuses! One status, for all accounts, or perhaps that is just from
the way Ubuntu integrated it. Some accounts I want to be invisible, I
don't want to have a flippant status for work, etc.
Ron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM,
Emphaty needs OTR support, EVEN CLIMM has it.
I do not understand why it is not implemented, and they find excuses
after excuses?
I wish you good luck Justin Alan Ryan, and I hope you make it.
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The biggest problem I have with Pidgin is that it sometimes just stops
accepting pastes, so that's been enough for me to decide that OTR is no longer
my favorite feature, though still an important one. - I have the same issue
but only on yahoo, when I do some paste it wont go thru, but
Nate - do you want to help with the implementation?
I've volunteered to do this work, but it is taking some time to
acclimate myself to the codebase. The Empathy core developers don't
seem particularly interested in this feature, so I think those of us
stomping our feet oughta pitch in.
The
Things like this:
http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Will_Empathy_have_OTR_.28.22Off_The_Record.22.29_support.3F
Concern me greatly. While it would be wonderful to have the end-to-end
communications secured natively in the protocol, the sad truth is that we're
never going to get an update to the
In these times, end-to-end encryption is really a must. Even Google,
with switching to https, is starting to realize that security is
paramount. I find it shocking to read that this is lacking in the Ubuntu
default client.
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those +1 comments are of no use there, could you refrain from adding
those?
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So, this is triaged and wishlisted, is anyone interested in implementing
it? I am.
I agree with the developers' general concerns regarding OTR, it doesn't
work well, but it works with users of common IM clients on all operating
systems. I have a lot of experience with its' funkiness
The most
Whups..
Shouldn't be *necessary* to run a server to have secure communications,
absolutely should be possible. :)
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Pidgin has it, empathy should, too.
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Empathy looks really good, but messages from my friends are just:
?OTR:AAIKwGdCcqGnCMxPZGOkEr6VJPgbC10+PzfztAU/+xoKNxiFIsQyyYZx2TAiUo+ey3soBid9+sI8OIMF9ypbCWudRJEv...
not cool :-(
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Empathy is totally worthless without otr support. To subsitute it with
pidgin is totally annoying because I can not speak crypted with non
experienced ubuntu users. Wondering why this wasnt the first people
implemented, open source software should provide those features per
default enabled to
Agree that empathy is unusable without OTR.
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Le gasp! Hopefully this will clear things up for people that think this
isn't on the to-do list
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Bump for great OTR justice!
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Just to clarify;
1. the fedora guys have marked it as wont-fix
since which we read this comment in the fedora bug tracker:
Jonathan Blandford 2009-11-16 08:23:37 EST
[ Note that upstream has since changed their mind on that, and claims to be
considering how to include OTR. In the short
Its ridiculous how this bug has been set to wont fix :))
Does empathy support any other form of encryption? I understand this
could be challenging when you need to support audio and video, but guys,
challenging doesnt mean you have to run away from it.
OTR or some sort of encryption at the
As I recall, Empathy feels the world should be fixed. This would be
nice, but it is a long ways off. So, yes, they have switched the
default IM to empathy, which has no real plans to support encryption
in the foreseeable future (xmmp crypto someday?), but Pidgin/OTR will
remain installable. Of
I agree with previous posts - encryption is a must and OTR is what all
the others do, so it should be supported in the default IM, period.
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I use OTR in pidgin all the time,
it just works! Also with the many MAC Adium Users!!
I would love to see OTR in empathy
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Bug tracking people, please pull your heads out of your rear-ends!
Encryption support is a **MUST** in an IM program! This is **NOT** a
wish-list item! It is a REQUIREMENT!!!
Empathy should not be the default IM client. As an option, it is fine.
But the fact remains: EMPATHY IS ***BROKEN***!!!
I think we are all losing your time requesting a feature that's not
likely to be implemented but I too have reverted to pidgin (this bloated
and ugly IM client) because of the lacking of ORT support on empathy,
and the inability to block a single contact in my contact list.
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Not having OTR support is inexcusable. It's like a browser that doesn't
have HTTPS. empathy will stay broken until such time when this bug is
fixed.
This is Linux/Gnome, not some bullsh.t commercial application, it is
supposed to have encryption, it is supposed to be interoperable. OTR is
Okay we get it. OTR is important to everyone and everyone thinks it's bad
that it's the default IM client in Ubuntu. The fact remains that these
comments are of no use in a bug report (neither is this one for that
matter).
The relevant developers are working on this bug and also get the point.
OTR is required by our company, and though I would love to use Empathy,
this is a show stopper for me.
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I agree that OTR is a must, and will keep using pidgin.
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I will not use Empathy until it supports OTR.
Empathy might think that they are cute and functional with video and
voice chat, but I will never use it if I can not send my admins
passwords and system information without worrying about a security
breach.
Please include a plug in system in order
I don't agree that this has the same importance as https in browsers
(Pidgin does _not_ support OTR out of the box and the devs even refused
to pull in the plugin). Still I think the request is reasonable and
Empathy should support OTR either natively or using a plugin (which
would require a
OTR is a must have feature for Instant Messageing!
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Telepathy Empathy developers are working on API sketches for encrypted
channels and OTR. The mailing list post:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2009-October/003936.html
Upstream is definitely considering this issue; developers know it's
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Yay! Though, I looked over XTLS and I think it's a horrible idea. The
worst part of TLS is x.509 certificates for a whole host of different
reasons, and one reason OTR works so well is it adopts the ssh model of
verification over the stupid x.509 model which doesn't really work for
anything but
I concur -- OTR support is needed, for sure. For anyone truly dedicated
to Empathy, you could run the AIM proxy or write your own for any chat
protocol (could be done easily in Java, libraries for most major chat
services already exist.) However, until Empathy supports OTR, I, along
with numerous
OTR support is critical to me as well. As there unfortunately is no
plugin system this has to be done inside telepathy/empathy.
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This shouldn't be considered a 'Wishlist' item. A browser without https
support is considered broken, not under-featured. The same should be
true for an IM program.
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I'd say that the default chat client should have OTR support, but no
problem with having other choices that don't, Empathy has voice and
video, which does make it a nice option.
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This shouldn't be considered
Added package empathy from Ubuntu, as this represents a regression from
Intrepid.
Also, there seems to be no plugin system in empathy / telepathy, so it's
no clear how to proceed with implementing an OTR plugin.
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Encryption is an absolut ko-creterion. So i have two reasons why pidgin
will remain on my system:
1.) The Devs of empathy told me on irc that i have to trust the people
how run the communication-server! Or i have to set up an own server!
That's both totally out of the question for the average
Not to mention that the proposed idea for implementing encryption over
Jabber doesn't give the same level of privacy guarantees as OTR, nor is
it actually as nice a standard in a lot of other ways.
The average user will never generate an X.509 certificate for
themselves. Anything based on that
I totally agree, OTR is eminent. I can se no reason denying users their
right to privacy. The OTR should work for all communacations within
empathy, text, audio, video, and all protocols.
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OTR++
It's mandatory. Good summary why:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2009-August/003701.html
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OTR support is critical. It needs to be there, and it needs to be
something that other people are using. I guess I need to go back to
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I will not use empathy without OTR support either. The statement of the
developers is absurd - they think, that their users dont need it and the
only other option is to wait until there is native support in some
protocol, which most users dont use or even know about. So thank you for
telling me,
OTR is a must-have feature.
You can not replace pidgin with empathy while not supporting OTR.
It's the only widespread encryption technology that works protocoll
independend.
I like empathy and think it has a lot of potential to be a really nice
piece of software but lacking support for
I will not use empathy until it has OTR support. It is worthless to me.
I don't care if the maintainers think they can think of something
better. Unless they can get it adopted by other popular IM clients, I
want OTR. And it's not better unless it also has the deniability that
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+1 This is also a important feature for me. OTR should be supported
before it replaces Pidgin in Ubuntu!
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I'd agree this is extremely important. Any chance of a comment on this
from the devs?
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+1 That's a must have feature! Without this Emphaty can never replace
Pidgin.
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that's a telepathy request
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