Re: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

On Tue, 2017-11-28 at 02:36 +, Jeff Lane wrote: > There IS a hardware database Canonical maintains, and it has been > linked several times in the bug comments. That database is found at: > > https://certification.ubuntu.com > > And maintains a list of all the Officially Supported hardware

Re: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Kip Warner wrote: > I agree with the concerns of some of those above. If the hardware > database is no longer maintained, closing the bug as a wishlist is less > than ideal because it doesn't actually address the OP's original > concern. But

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

I agree with the concerns of some of those above. If the hardware database is no longer maintained, closing the bug as a wishlist is less than ideal because it doesn't actually address the OP's original concern. It would be better if there was a hardware database Canonical maintained. This can't

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

This isn't a case of folks 'being desperate to close this bug for good', this is a case of 'this project is no longer viable or supported', and therefore it is correct to mark this bug invalid. Yes checkbox still exists, but we don't use hwdb, nor do we plan to resurrect it. For checking on

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

I know folks are desperate to close this bug for good, but I'd like to point out I just tried the link I mentioned in comment #32 above https://launchpad.net/~[username]/+hwdb-submissions and I can STILL see the hwdb entries I contributed years ago. SO the data still seems to be around in some

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Dear Jeff, You just changed an 11 year old, confirmed bug to "Invalid". The bug also has two duplicates and many subscribers and comments, so it seems it's considered important by many. Would you care to elaborate what reasons were behind this change? Thank you. -- You received this bug

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

I guess it's no longer an issue that the hardware database is not browseable since there is no hardware database. http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ is not available as I can see it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

@Tero As Adam indicated, hwdb no longer exists and hasn't for some time. The bug can not and will not ever be resolved as none of the component parts (especially the projects the duplicates were filed against) exist any longer. They have either been abandoned, or transitioned to newer projects.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

@Tero As Adam indicated, hwdb no longer exists and hasn't for some time. The bug can not and will not ever be resolved as none of the component parts (especially the projects the duplicates were filed against) exist any longer. They have either been abandoned, or transitioned to newer projects.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Changed in: launchpad Status: Triaged => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 Title: Hardware Database not browseable To manage notifications about this

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Hrmmm... So two things... First, you should get up with balloons and charlie_tca and others in the Ubuntu QA team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam The first link I provided, while not in a necessarily perfect UI and not accessible via API can give you an idea of the most common items, if you do

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Hey Jeff. Great response and thanks. As I mentioned, my main concern now, and I can't speak for everyone else with issues with the hw database, is not knowing what is the most common hardware used by Ubuntu users. I'm less concerned with whether this motherboard or that video card is certified to

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

This provides a component level browsable interface with info on systems that are officially certified http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ And this, while not browseable on the component level, provides info on machines that have been tested by the community, including a listing of

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Hey Jeff. It might help some people, but unfortunately not in my case. I don't need a hardware database of Ubuntu compatible hardware at present. What I need as an Ubuntu game developer is to see statistics on the most common hardware that is being used (e.g. GPU, CPU, etc.). -- You received

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

The bug is now over seven years old. I know that nowadays Ubuntu hardware support is way better, but I still have many devices which work bad, or doesn't work at all. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

This bug is definitely getting on age, and as I mentioned in comment #33, it is very important to me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 Title: Hardware Database not

Re: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

If it is so important to you, you might consider implementing a fix :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 Title: Hardware Database not browseable To manage notifications

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

We can't implement a fix if we don't have access to the database. What use is a new and wonderfully written and exposed API if the backend it relies on is inaccessible? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

Re: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Your fix would run on the Canonical instance of the codebase, and have access to the database. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 Title: Hardware Database not browseable

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

In an ideal world, that would suffice, but in reality you need to test it as you write it. Otherwise we could write device drivers for hardware we don't have. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

As a game developer, knowing the typical hardware available of potential end users is critical. The hardware database would allow me a rough survey of the average minimal capabilities I could expect. But as others have mentioned, it is not really usable in its present state. -- You received this

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Changed in: malone Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: malone Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: malone Assignee: Abel Deuring (adeuring) = (unassigned) -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Changed in: malone Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: malone Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: malone Importance: Medium = Undecided ** Changed in: malone Status: Triaged = New ** Changed in: malone Assignee: (unassigned) = Abel Deuring (adeuring) --

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Tags added: hwdb -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

The database still isn't exactly browseable, but you can see a little information about what has been submitted. On the launchpad page for checkbox https://launchpad.net/checkbox there are some answers, including https://answers.launchpad.net/checkbox/+question/26749 which points out For now,

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

I've opened Bug #377285 on obtaining the new hardware database submissions. This is a separate issue to being able to browse them -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Happy to hear that data collected by many volunteers is not lost. So could we see the database then? What's the URL? -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Marking as invalid for hwtest (which has since been renamed to checkbox). Checkbox/hwtest replaced hwdb-client in 8.04, and is not configured to submit data to http://hwdb.ubuntu.com. Instead, data is submitted to Launchpad where it is accessible via the API, and in the future the site itself.

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Also affects: checkbox Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Dave: so how can I view the whole hardware database then? We still don't know who owns the data. We still can't browse the data. Names and URLs change, but the problem is still the same as it was years ago, in 2006. Many see this bug as a problem: this bug has over 20 subscribers and two

Re: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Tried to get me name off hwdb-client list years ago with no luck. Sorry have nothing to do with Ubuntu. - Original Message - From: Tero Karvinen karvinen+launch...@iki.fi To: dave...@bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: [Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

I'm marking this as invalid for Checkbox (since it is only responsible for collecting and sending the data, and it already provides local access to the data it collects), and marking it as affecting Launchpad Bugs which is where the new hardware database is being developed. Regarding the old data

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Dave, thanks for that. IIRC, the whole dataset 2GB+ dataset was available if you knew the URL; so it should be possible to provide that again with a more stable (and publically published) URL, if for no reason more than historical interest. -- Hardware Database not browseable

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

What's up with this ? It's been (apparently) 3 years since http://hwdb.ubuntu.com is down, and I think it would be really a great improvement to fix it, so that users can check their hardware before installing Ubuntu, get in touch with others users if they encounter any problem, etc. Any news ?

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

It would be very useful. Don't let this discussion to be forgotten. -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better. This has been addressed in Ubuntu Brainstorm (See Above). Requesting that this be set to Wishlist. Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion! -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Sad that this missing feature is still pending to be implemented. Where is the above mentioned web interface to read the hwdb-entries? -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

http://ubuntuhcl.org/ I think this is satisfying enough. ** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Thanks for the link to the forum. However, it does not seem to be the Ubuntu hardware database. I only found short, written comments about computers and hardware. None of this information seemed to come from hardware database client. Comments did not seem to contain exact technical details

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

The data there wasn't collected by the hardware database client but it was sent by users. I think it's more useful to read human words rather than automated computer language. The database client doesn't even work for me it freezes all the time and even when I have sound the client doesn't play

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = New -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

assigning to the appropriate package so the right people get aware of it ** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Assignee: Oliver Grawert (ogra) = (unassigned) Status: New = Invalid ** Also affects: hwtest (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Hardware Database not

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Adam: As Roland already pointed out, a web forum is not a solution to this bug. And no, I don't think a web forum is better than a working hardware database. Hard, detailed technical data about a setup that's verified by human to work would be valuable. -- Hardware Database not browseable

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Setting this to In Progress based on: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/40/ ** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Is anyone working on this bug? Since no one has the code apart from the guys at hwdb.ubuntu.com what does anyway expect us hackers to do? -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

That is indeed very frustating. I'm doing laptop ubuntu testing and sometimes I would like to ask retrieve the info from the Ubuntu HW Database and apparently doesn't work. Pls fix this ASAP. -- Hardware Database not browseable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/30910 You received this bug

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

adding my note of agreement that the current arrangement is a problem -- I have tried using the hwdb several times since the nice GUI was added, and the vague adminishment that you might have sent a broken file is very frustrating, especially when submitting data for a malfunctioning machine. --

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

As long as the hwdb is not browseable there should be a static page stating exactly that. In the current state it just looks broken and since it is a major Ubuntu page this doesn't look good at all. A text which might be better than the current broken interface would be: The Ubuntu Hardware

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Browsable would be indeed be nice. BUT... I think it is even more important to make it clear to those who are contributing their hardware data that *not being able to retrieve it* does NOT (necessisarily) mean that their submission failed. The wording currently returned for (aparently all)

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

hi all, I am guessing that http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/2c4003b0aa8f0403128d43ca208dbc00.xml.bz2 in that the numbers before the datasheet are the person who has his own datasheet. I tried both wget http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/2c4003b0aa8f0403128d43ca208dbc00.xml.bz2 as well as inserting mine with

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

Hardware database browsing is not likely in the short term : if someone wants to enhance the hwdb-client and submit a patch, so that the 'show online record' pulls the bz2 file and shows data from it, that might be nice. Our immediate focus with the client is to start making it useful for driving

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

It has been over half a year since last comment about any progress on this. ** Changed in: hwdb-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Unconfirmed -- Hardware Database not browseable https://launchpad.net/bugs/30910 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 30910] Re: Hardware Database not browseable

This bug has been marked in progress for five months. Is someone still working on the browsable hardware database? Looking forward to see the hardware data... -- Hardware Database not browseable https://launchpad.net/bugs/30910 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com