[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Halvor Lyche Strandvoll
The UI font should be 10 again, the 11 font looks ugly... -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Halvor, please check that you're using subpixel rendering with Slight hinting. Mark -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Cedric F.
Mmh... 11 is to big for me, especially in the menus. -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Cedric F.
ok 10.5 looks good ! Wait for the next release... -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Today's kubuntu-default-settings upload sets the Ubuntu font as default in Kubuntu. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default- settings/1:10.10ubuntu10 Thanks for a lovely font! -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks Jonathan, and thanks for taking it up despite the late offer :-) -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
11 is huge for 1024x768 (14), let alone 1024x600 (10). The first time I cranked my font size up (to, ahem, eleven) in a long time was when I upgraded to 2560x1440 on 27. (All with slight subpixel rendering.) Ultimately the answer is not choosing the right font size, it's displaying it correctly

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Jeff, agreed, we need to be much smarter about picking sizes based on what screen they are using. -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-10-01 Thread Paul Sladen
kubuntu-default-settings (1:10.10ubuntu10) maverick; urgency=low * Switch to the Ubuntu font as the default font, as approved by the Kubuntu Council (bug #649616) * Add a dependency on ttf-ubuntu-font-family for the above -- Jonathan Thomas echidna...@kubuntu.org Thu, 30 Sep 2010

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Ken VanDine
** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) = Ken VanDine (ken-vandine) -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Robbie Williamson
Approved for enabling as default for everything except Documents and Fixed Width. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick) Status: Triaged = Confirmed -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Rick Spencer
** Description changed: If there is a desire to use the now-seeded 'Ubuntu' font as a default user interface font, then this should be investigated and weighed up, along with the social impacts of doing so. If the desire was taken to do this, a patch would need to be prepared, and a

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Ken VanDine
Changing this to ubuntu-artwork, that is the most appropriate package for setting these sort of defaults. ** Package changed: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick) = ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu Maverick) ** Changed in: ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu Maverick) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in:

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Rick Spencer
In comment #4 I said what I think we should do, but here I'll mention why I think we should do this for completeness: 1. The Ubuntu font is a major contribution to Ubuntu and makes the desktop look (in my opinion) significantly nicer. 2. The plan of record has been to set it as default (though

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks for your consideration of this late change. Is there any guidance on the appropriate sizes? I use 11 for each of these pieces, but I'm not sure if that's the standard for the previous default font, or just what I've converged on. A quick test suggests 10.5 is good too, 10 being too small.

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Benjamin Drung
I use size 10 and it's not too small for me. -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread fosk
I use 10.5... -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-artwork - 53.7 --- ubuntu-artwork (53.7) maverick; urgency=low * debian/gconf-defaults - Set default Application, Window title, and Desktop fonts to Ubuntu (LP: #649616) -- Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com Thu, 30 Sep 2010

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Omer Akram
should this font also be used at gdm level? -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
After a quick review of the experience folks would have going from Sans 10 to Ubuntu 10, it was decided to go to Ubuntu 11, which is visually closer in size to the previous default. We may want to go to 10.5 in the next release, but did not want to do that in this case because the font size

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 30/09/10 20:24, Omer Akram wrote: should this font also be used at gdm level? Yes - good catch. -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Paul Sladen
Ken: could you also investigate/possibly prepare (but not upload) what would need to be done in order to change the default hinting level (the posh manual hinting doesn't get used below fullhint). it probably possible to do this either via gconf, or dropping a font-specific match into

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 30/09/10 20:37, Paul Sladen wrote: Again, I'd prefer not to be drawn on the merits, but if the manual hinting is deemed important in order to show off the UI font, then it would be good to have this in-hand, ready (it may be more of a case of changing the hinting level on new-installs

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Luca Ferretti
A little question: why do you choose to not enable new fonts for Documents category? Just to clarify, note that Document here is a GNOME only category for fonts and will be used in Yelp (help viewer), Devhelp (developer help viewer), maybe in Empathy chat window and other GNOME apps. It will not

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Bilal Akhtar
I agree with Mark on the fact that Sans 10 is larger than Ubuntu 10 and we need Ubuntu 11 instead. Would definitely be good to see a smooth migration from Sans to Ubuntu, when users upgrade to maverick . -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Paul Sladen
Browser defaults too. ** Also affects: ubufox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu Maverick) Status: New = Incomplete -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-artwork -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649616 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Ken VanDine
Changing the hinting would be trivial, the default it medium but for me slight does look better. I don't know what kind of implications there are changing this. Any font gurus want to point out the good/bad of changing the default hinting? -- FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in

Re: [Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 30/09/10 20:56, Luca Ferretti wrote: A little question: why do you choose to not enable new fonts for Documents category? Just to clarify, note that Document here is a GNOME only category for fonts and will be used in Yelp (help viewer), Devhelp (developer help viewer), maybe in Empathy

[Bug 649616] Re: FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in light-themes

2010-09-30 Thread Tobias Wolf
Under no circumstance should we change away from slight hinting. That would be nothing less than disastrous. Many a flamewar was fought around hinting level in the past and after a poll of the community run by Keybuk it was changed to slight with an exception on monospace below 12px for people