The sad part of all this is that a lot of people are used to US-intl
generating a cedilla when accent+C is used. Curiously, there's a New
US Intl layout that does the same as the regular US-Intl. I think
the cleanest solution would be to have an Old US Intl or Legacy
US-Intl that would generate a
Eduardo Ceretos' approach (if I understand it) is the correct one: to create a
different layout for 'Brazil' model and let US model alone. There several
completely different (and completely irrelevant) layouts for Brazil model like
all Nativo variants (I can't speak for Dvorak and Esperanto,
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Eduardo,
Maybe slovenian, turkish and other languages that use ć will be
affected.
Still the argument remains: Ubuntu should follow Microsoft standard for
easier adoption of the O.S.
We're at over 2 years since I opened this BUG, resolution is simple, yet
I must ask why nothing has been done
I must agree this bug's title should be C-cedilla in us-intl layout not
where Windows users expect it. I've now grown used to typinh AltGr + ,
+ C to get my cedillas, and everytime i convert someone I explain the
difference.
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Watch out, it's not just Brazilians that are used with the US-int layout like
that... In the comments of this bug there is a Canadian saying that they do the
same when typing French in USian keyboards...
Isn't there a formal definition of how must the US-International layout behave?
Who is
besides Brazilians, Canadians and possibly French and Portuguese - who
else is affected by this bug?
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I included Tiago's comment on upstream bug. Please use the upstream bug
to include future comments and follow bug resolution.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900
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the last debdiff I posted is very broken, looks like I'm too n00b to
make a debdiff. It doesn't matter as the deb diff is very useless
anyway.
Also I moved this bug upstream:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900
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I spent the last days trying to patch xkeyboard-config in order to create a new
variant br(br-intl). Even so I had a hard time with symbols files. when I set
the key to dead_cedilla it does work outputing ç an Ç but then it won't output
á,é,í,ó and ú.
I want the key to be dead_cedilla when the
here's the debdiff of the package I created. please note that while this
fixes the cedilla issue it breaks acute characters. So the patch is
mostly useless and should not be used as a solution or workaround. I'm
posting this only for information.
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I understand jcfp point. And it's good. US-intl should be as
international as possible.
But lets get to the facts. Brazil has two types of main keyboards. ABNT2
that has the c-cedil key, and US-intl that just maps the '+c to c-cedil.
This sure represents circa 95% of brazilian keyboards.
If you
Also I think that this bug should be changed to High Importance. An
estimated 40% of brazilian users simply won't be able to write a
document as no one expect c-cedil to be under altgr+,.
Has a moderate impact on a large portion of Ubuntu users (estimated)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
This problem is really annoying and still it seems to be present in
Hardy beta. I just wish that a proper solution would be presented for
the user. I know how to fix it using the command line, but this is not a
good solution for a distro that claims to be easy to use.
Maybe an option to correct
Paganini has expressed the true problem about this bug.
While I agree with Yamal, in that we would shift the problem to our
friends from Poland, Serbia, etc, the fact is that:
*Most* people are accustomed to the Windows international keyboard
behavior.
Although there is no defined standard, the
Raising importance to medium after reading back new comments.
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It seems that there's a common misconception about the us-intl keyboard
layout on a qwerty keyboard being something 'brazilian', see the comment
of L M Nicolosi (on 2007-11-02) which speaks of a US Int Keyboard
configured for English and Br-Portuguese. Such a thing doesn't exist.
All there is, is
Hi Yamal,
I agree with you that consistency is of paramount importance, specially
when dealing with a complicated subject such as internationalization. My
gripe, however, is not with the fact that acute+c does not generate a
cedilla, but rather, with the change in behavior of the widely known US
If the Gnome developers don't want to change it, fine. But why not honor
the GTK_IM_MODULE=xim setting as it was done before? I would not mind
whatever twisted scheme someone who never spoke or wrote any portuguese
devised for my keyboard, as long as I could bypass it freely (as it was
the case in
Ok Volanin, I agree, It's a matter of standard,
but why one would need ć, ś, ŕ, ź, ń in a US Int Keyboard configured for
English and Br-Portuguese?
And why I can't (can + + space + t) use ' or without a space after?
To be able to put accents and tremas in every consonant?
Ok I come from
Great and simple workaround!!!
Thanks!!!
Although this is still not an excuse for Ubuntu... Why can't they simply add
these lines? Itś a simple bug to fix.
cenora
On 10/22/07, Volanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HOW TO FIX this in GUTSY in 2 steps:
1. Edit the file:
I totally agree with you cenora.
The lack of usually accepted shortcut 'acute + c' to generate 'ç' is very
annoying.
The problem is: this shortcut is not a standard, so every operating system
implements it as they see fit.
In Windows we have the usual 'acute + c'
In Linux we got the annoying
HOW TO FIX this in GUTSY in 2 steps:
1. Edit the file: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-
files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules
2. Add your LOCALE to the end of the line beginning with cedilla.
If you use Ubuntu in English, your locale is probably: en or en_US.
Add any LOCALE that you usually use as
Tank's Nicolosi.
It seems it's not a ubuntu, but a debian bug.
I recently move to Debian Sid, same bug here.
Being debian a distro heavily used by the small Brazilian linux community it's
understandable why nobody care about this annoying bug.
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Re: last posting
It seems that the last upgrades brought back a
/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose full of cedillas in the
wrong places, so last move was not enough to solve the puzzle.
Edited the file as in (top):
1.Edit the file: /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose
Upgraded from 7.10 Gutsy Beta to RC w/ last fixes, it seems my cedillas
are gone.
File editing (above) that used to work in the past won't do.
Need some help.
L.
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Upgraded to Gutsy-Beta (sept 2007) from 7.04 and the cedilla bug
returned.
Looked for files to edit and noticed that
/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose apparently was corrected but
couldn't find /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.
Found instead /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-
On my laptop (ibm x30) there is no AltGr key present (Ctrl+Alt together
also doesn't work). So it is really a big pain not being able to type a
ç. Copying and pasting from somewhere else is the only solution, but a
very ugly one. I'd also vote for having ć being replaced by ç.
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I speak three languages and live in Quebec where english and french co-
exist with many other languages.
I often suggest using this keyboard layout to cover all possible
combination of accents, the ñ, ç, etc.
This problem sure gets in the way of easy adoption of this keyboard
layout, as such I
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The problem is persistent. US-international layout is still missing C-cedil.
All we have is ć.
On 6/17/07, revertex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
more than a year without cedilla, but finally i can get it working.
i used to use everything in english, but sometimes i need to write in
portuguese,
more than a year without cedilla, but finally i can get it working.
i used to use everything in english, but sometimes i need to write in
portuguese, without cedilla is really painful.
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Júlio is right. Standard querty keyboards are very common is Brasil, so
a great number home and small office users are just not able to switch
to Ubuntu because of this issue. Tweaking /etc files is not for
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I must say that this behaviour is a let down for portuguese/brazilian
users. At least for me (BR), I'm very well used to typing ' and C to
produce Ç , and I really hope that someday this can work in ubuntu out
of the box . After all, internationalization isn't a priority of this
distro?
When I
in Feisty:
Instead of:
3.Edit the file: /etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gtk.immodules
Use:
3.Edit the file: /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
It works perfectly, happy cedillas - ç
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Ok, thanks I asked to close it and opened a request, as you suggested.
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It may well be possible to do that, maybe using xmodmap? I would suggest
opening a support request for that at
https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets and closing this
bug report.
btw: us alt-intl layout does differ from intl in the way it handles
ALTGR + , by making that a dead key
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in us-intl layout ç is ALTGR + , (right-alt + comma)
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Yamal:
Can there be a way to set up the Ç as ' (apostrophe) + c ? That is
what the Microsoft US-international keyboard does. The Ubuntu US-Alternative
also has the same accented C as default, so there are 2 of the same options.
This is useful for Portuguese (PT and BR) typing in the standard
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