[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-11-17 Thread Selmi
I have problem with scanner from Samsung multifunction device M2070

it worked with installed drivers from samsung site in ubuntu 16.04

after upgrade to 18.04 scanner is not recognized anymore. I reinstalled
newer drivers from HP site (hp took over samsung printers and scanners)
but still doesn't work

so 'out of a box' experience in 18.04 from comment #43 is not exactly
true

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-08-29 Thread Wladimir Mutel
I am not sure everyone needs to install Brother driver to make Epson scanner 
work (that's in Ubuntu 18.04)
I am going to set up samples of Ubuntu LTS from Bionic down to Trusty and 
probably Precise, and report on their compatibility with the extensive zoo of 
printers, scanners and MFUs I have on my new job.
Having regressions in modern Ubuntu releases where past releases worked well is 
unacceptable, their causes should be investigated and eliminated.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-05-18 Thread Franz Engel
Once again fresh installed Bionic for test.
And now it works immediately after installing the brother driver.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-05-11 Thread Franz Engel
Fresh install Bionic Beaver,
then installed the driver for my Brother MFC-J470DW from the Brother Site.
Then the routine from "ubuntuusers.de"
https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Scanner/Brother/
Scroll down to "Scannen über Netzwerk ab Ubuntu 17.04 (64-bit)"
And tadaaa, it works.
thanks a lot

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-05-10 Thread mario
Thank you!
Fresh install of Bionic and my V600 now works. I have used the way in post 
n.117. You, all, are very great!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-28 Thread dino99
Debian is not concerned, as said into their report (devs desagree about
naming best practice)

** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian)
   Importance: Unknown => Undecided

** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian)
 Remote watch: Debian Bug tracker #870078 => None

** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-28 Thread dino99
** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Franz Engel (frangelo) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-28 Thread Vincent Montagnon
Thanks everybody.
This solves my 'non-working' V350-Photo scanner issue !

* Fresh Ubuntu-Mate insall (64 bits)
* All updates done
* Install the Epson package from Epson website
* Check libsane1 is installed
* Copy (or move) the files from /usr/lib/sane (libsane-epkowa.la, 
libsane-epkowa.so.1, libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15) to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane
* generate a file /etc/udev/rules.d/79-udev-epson.rules with the following 
content:
# chmod device EPSON group
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="EPSON", DRIVERS=="usb", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", 
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777"

=> Working without rebooting !

Thanks guys !

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-27 Thread Franz Engel
** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Franz Engel (frangelo)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-24 Thread Henry Goldstein
I confirm that the workaround worked for my Bionic with an Epson V300,
having finally found this thread after a week's agony.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-07 Thread luca.mg
Clean Ubuntu bionic install, the Brother4 worked out or the box, while
the Epson iscan needed the well known workaround.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-04-07 Thread Neil Gunther
The above workaround at post 117 also works for the Epson V300.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-03-03 Thread jj.giopa
# EPSON V500 

https://askubuntu.com/questions/946198/device-driver-for-
epson-v600-perfection

sudo cp /usr/lib/sane/libsane-epkowa.* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/

edit /etc/udev/rules.d/79-udev-epson.rules

sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/79-udev-epson.rules

Add the following:

# chmod device EPSON group
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="EPSON", DRIVERS=="usb", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", 
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777"

Thanks to tanstaafl on https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/epson-iscan-
und-ubuntu-17-10-geloest/

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-02-02 Thread Robert Rohm
In order to make a Brother MFC-5490CN work, I additionally had to do
this

cd /usr/lib
sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-brother3.so libsane.so
sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-brother3.so.1 libsane.so.1
sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/sane/libsane-brother3.so.1.0.7 libsane.so.1.0.7

Scanning with MFC-5490CN now works with simple-scan. 
xsane recognizes the scanner, does a preview, but fails scanning. 

scanimage now fails with:
scanimage: symbol lookup error: scanimage: undefined symbol: md5_buffer

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2018-01-29 Thread PeterPall
I hope this patch might make things work out-of-the-box on new installs.

I didn't find out how to prevent the link from /usr/lib64/ to
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu to appear on ia32. But hey don't harm.

And I didn't find any good way to handle the case that libsane is
updated when /usr/lib64 already exists: I can move all the 3rd-party
sane drivers over to the new directory. But what happens if there are
other libraries from the system that is upgraded and that still lie in
this directory?

An alternative would be finding out the names of all packages epson and
brother provide and symlink every file individually. Is it feasible to
create such a list?

** Patch added: "The  1st try to create a patch that makes libsane1 work 
out-of-the-box with popular scanners."
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1707352/+attachment/5045380/+files/libsane1.patch

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-20 Thread David Stewart
Thanks to #99 staedtler_przlorski

Your patch worked for the Epson V370 scanner.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-14 Thread PeterPall
That is right:
 - make libsane1's install script execute a few "ln" commands. Or add a 
debian/.links
 - add a few udev scripts to libsane1's debian directory and a 
debian/.install file that places them at the right places in the 
filesystem
 - and somehow make ubuntu ship the resulting package instead of the old one. 
I've never found any documentation on how to actually do this. But I've always 
read that everyone is invited in fixing bugs in ubuntu packages... ...that 
means: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html

If we change the things that are needed and submit the change to debian
- that might fix many upcoming releases of many linux flavours. If the
changes are backported to ubuntu afterwards, that is.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-14 Thread staedtler-przyborski
And please don't omit the permissions problem which occurs IMHO with all
iscan, brscan4 and some smfb* based scanners.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-14 Thread PeterPall
The manufacturers won't. And if each manufacturer would try to create
all the symlinks needed in order to make the drivers work on all the
linux distries that tend to be broken in different ways that would
clearly be prone to create conflicts.

But if Ubuntu has broken things by starting to expect them in unexpected
places Ubuntu could automatically provide all the symlinks that are
needed to make the drivers appear in all the places they could or should
be - and nearly all drivers by nearly all manufacturers would restart
working out-of-the box without requiring intervention of the
manufacturers and applying fixes to every single driver.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-14 Thread staedtler-przyborski
As im in contact with Olaf Meeuwissen (Sane developer and former Epson 
developer, responsible for iscan, imagescan, and now utsushi) ...
He told between the lines that he's quite sure that no manufacturer will 
correct his packages.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-13 Thread PeterPall
That is the only thing I would ask: We now have found out to make the
package work out-of-the-box. Is there any chance that the maintainer
picks up the changes - which greatly would improve the usability of
Linux?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-13 Thread Matthew Frost
Epson Perfection V30 didn't work, and I've gotten it working now.

Had these problems on 17.10, almost b0rked my system with some of the
proposed solutions re downgrading. Here's what worked today (Dec 13,
2017) on a fresh install:

*Before* installing iscan-data, iscan, and esci-interpreter-gt-f720 from
the Epson package, I made a symlink from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane
to /usr/lib/sane so things would get to the right place automatically.
(This might be a further useful fix to add to the libsane package.)

Then I installed the software from the Epson package.

Then I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane#Setting_up_SANE;>the
community site. I tried XSane, and it wouldn't detect my scanner. I
added an 'epkowa' line to /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, and after that, I could
run 'sane-find-scanner' as root successfully, and running 'scanimage -L'
as root activated the scanner. I was able to run gscan2pdf (my preferred
app) as root successfully, and used it to scan a document.

Of course, I don't want to run this software as root every time. So then
I created the 79-udev-epson.rules file per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/1707352/comments/86">comment 86, rebooted, and
everything works now as a regular user.

Thank you all for your suggestions and fixes!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-12-05 Thread SteveSong
Likewise thank you @staedtler-przyborski Your workaround in comment #102
worked perfectly for my Epson V350 on Ubuntu 17.10

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package sane-backends -
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

---
sane-backends (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1) artful; urgency=medium

  * Add version to Provides. Use Conflicts instead of Breaks (LP:
#1707352)

sane-backends (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) artful; urgency=medium

  * Add "Provides: libsane" to libsane1 (LP: #1707352)

 -- Jeremy Bicha   Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:43:06 -0400

** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu Artful)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-11 Thread Paul Nickerson
Thank you, staedtler-przyborski. The workaround you link to in comment
#102 worked immediately for my Brother MFC-J220 scanner, on Ubuntu
17.10.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-06 Thread Warren
Here is an update to my simple and "unnecessary" script to fix .deb
packages so they install correctly. This version adds moving the
installation of the libraries from /usr/lib/sane to /usr/lib/x86_64
-linux-gnu/sane. Should work well with most Epson driver .deb's, not
sure about others.

In attachment.



** Attachment added: "updated .deb repair script"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1707352/+attachment/5005076/+files/fixlibsane1a.sh

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-05 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Please use the workaround for Epson Iscan, Brother brscan,brscan2 and
brscan3 Scanners from here

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/1728012/comments/36

brscan4 no luck until now

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-05 Thread derlybyn
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Thanks a lot.  This worked for my Epson Perfection V10 on Ubuntu Mate
17.10, upgraded from 17.04.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-03 Thread Warren
@staedtler-przyborski -- Thanks!! It worked for my V500. Now BOTH the
WF-3540 scanner and V500 are working as well as ever. scanimage -L finds
them both; and iscan, simplescan, and xsane run them.

Good work!

I'm guessing there's a lot of old driver install debs out in the world
that are putting their stuff into /usr/lib/sane instead of into
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane which seems to be the current "proper"
place. Since those installers are not likely to be rebuilt, the next
best solution would be for sane to look in /user/lib/sane if it fails to
find what it's looking for in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread staedtler-przyborski
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Is it a fresh install ?

If yes, I'm sorry I'm not familiar with Kubuntu

If no, please consider a fresh installation of Kubuntu 17.10 (too many
things have changed since 16.04)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread Michael Barraclough
Success!

Copied the 3 files from /usr/lib/sane to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane

Created /etc/udev/rules.d/79-udev-epson.rules with the following
content:

# chmod device EPSON group
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="EPSON", DRIVERS=="usb", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", 
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777"

Didn't reboot - didn't work. However, after rebooting, Vuescan and
ScanLite both found the scanner . Yay!

Thanks for the great support.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread Michael Barraclough
No - I am as 64-bit as they come!!

Kubuntu 17.10 reports:

OS Type - 64 bit
Processors: 4 x AMD A10-7870K Radeon R7

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread Martin
Yes it is /usr/lib/sane

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread staedtler-przyborski
@Michael Barraclough

Are you on 32 bit ?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread Michael Barraclough
I don't have a /usr/lib64/sane/, but I do have those files in
/usr/lib/sane - should I copy those?

I also don't have a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu - should I create that?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread guascoe
Coping the content of /usr/lib64/sane/ to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane works 
fine for me and my Epson XP-312. 
I've tested the procedure on a clean install an also on my production machine.
After installing libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1, 
sane-utils_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1and 
libsane-common_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 I runned ISCAN install via 
standard Epson script with no issue.
Then i copied the files /usr/lib64/sane/ to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/saneand 
modified dll.conf and Epkowa.conf in /etc/sane.d (as I've ever done for my LAN 
connected scanner). 
Now I can run ISCAN as user with no problem and simple-scan works too.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-02 Thread Martin
The funny thing is: scanimage -L does not work.
Then I do something on the system and change things and after 1 hour of 
changing  scanimage -L works fine. The next day same again: not work. So my 
experience is: if you run scanimage many times, it becomes better and better 
and at the end it works. No matter what you changed. So it may happen that it 
does not work without sudo and then work with sudo. But its not the "sudo". 
It's because you tried 5 times.

Here is the command for debugging:

user@ubuntu1:home$ SANE_DEBUG_SANEI_CONFIG=3 SANE_DEBUG_SANEI_USB=128
SANE_USB_WORKAROUND=0 SANE_DEBUG_DLL=128 SANE_DEBUG_EPSON2=128 scanimage
-L

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread floriankeim
I'm sorry, it still does not work for me with my Perfection V33 Scanner,
even though everything is similar.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
I verified that my Epson V300 works with a fresh Ubuntu 17.10
installation by doing the following steps

1. Install libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

If you don't want to enable the proposed repository the easiest way is
to download the files and install them from local

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/libsane1_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/sane-
utils_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/libsane-
common_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_all.deb

2. Install iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz

3. Copy (or move) the files from /usr/lib/sane (libsane-epkowa.la,
libsane-epkowa.so.1, libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15) to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-
gnu/sane

4. generate a file /etc/udev/rules.d/79-udev-epson.rules with the following 
content:
# chmod device EPSON group
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="EPSON", DRIVERS=="usb", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", 
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777"

No reboot needed

After these steps you can attach your scanner and turn it on. It will
start to download the firmware (you can see some blinking lights and
hear some noise). As soon downloading of firmware has finished you can
use the scanner by either Simple-scan, iScan or Xsane (if installed). No
root needed (except for installation).

As other Epson scanners using Iscan differ 'only' by the scanner
specific plugin I expect them to work too.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Do you have really copied the content of /usr/lib64/sane/ to
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane ?

Whats with 79-udev-epson.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d ?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread Rolf Bensch
@Peter:
Alternatively you could use the sources from SANE's daily git snapshots instead 
of using Debian experimental branch.

This also breaks my ppa, which provides builds from SANE's daily git
snapshots.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread Michael Barraclough
sudo scanimage -L

No scanners were identified.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Please try 'sudo scanimage -L'

if scanimage succeeds and finds the scanner check if you have a file
named 79-udev-epson.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d

If yes content:

If no it should have the following content:

# chmod device EPSON group
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="EPSON", DRIVERS=="usb", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", 
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777"

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread Michael Barraclough
Downloaded and installed (no error messages) libsane-common, libsane1
and sane-utils. Thank you.

Installed iscan-gt-x770-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb with no errors.

sudo sane-find-scanner gives

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0130 [EPSON Scanner]) at 
libusb:006:004
  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected.

scanimage -L

No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in [YES], turned on [YES] and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool [YES - see above]

iscan gives "Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status"
xsane gives "No devices available"

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
If you don't want to enable the proposed repository the easiest way is
to download the files and install them from local

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/libsane1_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/sane-
utils_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+upload/16734103/+files/libsane-
common_1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1_all.deb

Yes the bundle is scanner specific. Iscan is identical, only the
scanner-plugin differs.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread Michael Barraclough
"Today I managed to bring back my dead Epson V300 alive :-)

1. Install libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

2. Install iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz

3. Copy (or move) the files from /usr/lib/sane (libsane-epkowa.la,
libsane-epkowa.so.1, libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15 in my case) to
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane"

Please forgive my ignorance.

I assume that I need to add a PPA to get to libsane1
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1. What is the apt command for this?

Having added the PPA, what then is the apt command to install libsane1
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

Also, is iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz scanner specific? I
think that I have been using iscan-gt-x770-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz
for my Epson Perfection V500.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Can you try it as root ?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread floriankeim
mmh, I tried that for my Epson using iscan-
perfection-v330-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz, but it still does not work.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
BRScan users can you try what happens when you copy the files (libsane-
brother*) from /usr/lib64/sane/ to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane.

Maybe the fix for brother scanners is as easy as the one for the epson
ones ...

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Just for the record

scanimage -L
device `epkowa:interpreter:003:007' is a Epson Perfection V300 flatbed scanner
device `imagescan:esci:networkscan://192.168.50.24:1865' is a Epson XP-540 

Iscan, simple-scan, Xsane are working as expected.

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2017-11-01 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Today I managed to bring back my dead Epson V300 alive :-)

1. Install libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

2. Install iscan-gt-f720-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb.tar.gz

3. Copy (or move) the files from /usr/lib/sane (libsane-epkowa.la,
libsane-epkowa.so.1, libsane-epkowa.so.1.0.15 in my case) to
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane

4. reboot.

Guess this works with all Iscan depend scanners from Epson

For me the bug is fixed ...

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-31 Thread Martin
I found out that I have to run scanimage -L with "sudo" to detect my
scanner.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-30 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
Following the PeterPall's suggestion I have moved my "issue" discussion to the 
broken scanner list.
Looks like we still keep discussing failure here though. Here are my remarks:
My malfunction hasn't changed a bit with the 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 
package.
Like before xsane crashes with the following message:
  Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x00 0x00
and/or hangs with "Scanning" status.
And it looks like we have a 3rd bug that relates to the "uprade": 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1724078
Some of you might wan't to "be affected" too.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-30 Thread luca.mg
Hi there, I uninstalled the ugly workaround and purged the zesty
packages sane, libsane, xsane, scanner drivers, and all the bells and
whistles; reinstalled libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1, sane,
xsane, simple-scan, Brother and Epson drivers with no issues. In short:
the Epson 4490 Photo scanner doesn't work at all, the Brother MDC-1910W
scanner only works as root. In details:

Epson 4490 Photo as user
sane-find-scanner detects a bunch of USB devices including the scanner, but has 
not enough permission
scanimage -l no SANE devices found
iscan, simple-scan, and xsane do not work

Epson 4490 Photo as root
sane-find-scanner ok
scanimage -l no SANE devices found
iscan, simple-scan, and xsane do not work 

Brother MFC-1910W as user
sane-find-scanner detects a bunch of USB devices including the scanner, but has 
not enough permission
scanimage -l no SANE devices found
simple-scan and xsane do not work 

Brother MFC-1910W as root
sane-find-scanner ok
scanimage -l ok
simple-scan ok
xsane ok

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-29 Thread Martin
I just installed the artful-proposed files.
"sane-find-scanner" finds my epson scanner. But "scanimage -L" does not find 
anything.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-29 Thread PeterPall
On my computer when I try to scan ltrace tells me:

sane_get_devices(0x7ffc84845e50, 0, 0, 0)= 0

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-29 Thread staedtler-przyborski
True Epson iscan .deb's can be installed now.

But nevertheless Epson scanners relying on iscan refuse to work (Epson
V300 in my case).

scanimage -L doesn't detect them, neither iscan, simple-scan or xsane.

This is less than half a fix.

BTW. in Ubuntu 17.04 the scanner worked with libsane 1.0.25 and with
libsane 1.0.27 (provided by Rolf Bensch
https://launchpad.net/~rolfbensch/+archive/ubuntu/sane-git/+packages).

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-28 Thread Warren
I truly hope that in the very near future that script becomes
unnecessary. Anybody who wants their scanner software installed sooner
is welcome to give the script a try. And, thanks for your work on
resolving this issue!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-28 Thread Jeremy Bicha
After installing libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 from artful-
proposed, I was able to complete the test case successfully and install
the Epson iscan .deb's.

** Tags removed: verification-failed verification-needed 
verification-needed-artful
** Tags added: verification-done verification-done-artful

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-28 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Warren, that's unnecessary. There is a fix in artful-proposed that just
needs to wait a week or so before promoting to artful-updates.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-28 Thread Warren
I have created a generalized bash script that rebuilds .deb packages,
changing the dependency from libsane (whatever version) to libsane1 (>=
1.0.27). Here for your enjoyment is "fixlibsane1.sh":

[code]
#!/bin/bash

# A simple script to make packages that are uninstallable due to change from
# libsane to libsane1 installable, by changing the dependency in the .deb 
package.
# First parameter is path to .deb file to modify, like so:
#   ./fixlibsane1.sh iscan_2.30.3-1_amd64.deb
# The "Depends: field will have libsane (version)" changed to "libsane1 (>= 
1.0.27)"
# A new deb package will be created alongside the original, ending in "-mod.deb"
# --Warren Severin

indebfull=$1
indebbase=$(basename "$indebfull")
indebdir=$(dirname "$indebfull")
indebext="${indebbase##*.}"
indebroot="${indebbase%.*}"
tmpdir=$(mktemp -d)

if [ ! "$indebext" = "deb" ]; then
  echo "Did you enter the path to the .deb file as the first parameter? 
Exiting."; exit 1; fi
if [ ! -e "$indebfull" ]; then
  echo "Not finding $indebfull. Exiting."; exit 1; fi
if [ -z $(which perl) ]; then
  echo "This script requires perl. Do you need to install it? Exiting."; exit 
1; fi

dpkg-deb -x "$indebfull" "$tmpdir"
dpkg-deb --control "$indebfull" "$tmpdir/DEBIAN"
perl -i -pe 's/^(Depends:.*?)libsane( +\(.*?\))?/\1libsane1 (>= 1.0.27)/' 
"$tmpdir/DEBIAN/control"
dpkg -b "$tmpdir" "${indebdir}/${indebroot}-mod.deb"

rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty "$tmpdir"
echo "Done!"
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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-28 Thread guascoe
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 doesn't solve the problem in my case.
Iscan can be installed without problem but is unable to find the scanner on LAN 
or via USB.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread Warren
I two Epson scanners - a V500 and a WF-3540 multifunction. The change to
libsane1 seems to have completely broken the V500 and partiallty broken
the WF-3540 scanner.

However, I have found a solution to at least get past the libsane dependency 
problem on installation. The solution I used was to extract the deb files, edit 
the control file dependencies from libsane to libsane1, then rebuild the debs 
and install them. Like so, where foo is the 3rd party deb file:
[code]
dpkg-deb -x foo.deb tmpdir
dpkg-deb --control foo.deb tmpdir/DEBIAN
# use editor of choice to change the depend from
# libsane (>= 1.0.11-3) to libsane1 (>= 1.0.27)
nano tmpdir/DEBIAN/control
dpkg -b tmpdir modified.deb
[/code]
Then install the modified deb.

As a temporary workaround this could be automated with a short shell
script for affected users.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread Jochen
For some reason I didn't have the latest package ... It is fine with
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread Jochen
My dependency issues are not solved with the new package:


libsane1 is already the newest version (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2).

sudo dpkg -i iscan_2.30.3-1_amd64.deb

Selecting previously unselected package iscan.
(Reading database ... 449269 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack iscan_2.30.3-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking iscan (2.30.3-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of iscan:
 iscan depends on libsane (>= 1.0.11-3); however:
  Package libsane is not installed.
  Version of libsane on system, provided by libsane1:amd64, is .

dpkg: error processing package iscan (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread PeterPall
Ok... ...the new bug report for all devices that are still affected is:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1728012

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread PeterPall
Then one Bug is fixed. Perhaps we should close it and open another one
for all the devices a change in sane has broken.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread floriankeim
Now the drivers install without problems. However, I still can't connect
to the scanner (neither in iscan nor in simple-scan). Simple scan still
tells me that an epson scanner is recognised, but drivers are missing.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread Adam Conrad
Hello PeterPall, or anyone else affected,

Accepted sane-backends into artful-proposed. The package will build now
and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 in a few hours, and then in the
-proposed repository.

Please help us by testing this new package.  See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how
to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this
update out to other Ubuntu users.

If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from
verification-needed-artful to verification-done-artful. If it does not
fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the
tag to verification-failed-artful. In either case, details of your
testing will help us make a better decision.

Further information regarding the verification process can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification .  Thank you in
advance!

** Tags removed: verification-failed verification-failed-artful
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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-27 Thread alpreston
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 doesn't help - i still get the "libsane
not available" error message when trying to install iscan-
gt-x820-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb. My Epson V600 is still not accessible.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-26 Thread DeepKling
The fix (new 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) does not work for me either,
I can't install the drivers for my Perfection V33 Scanner (well, I can
by forcing it, but it won't work).

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-26 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package sane-backends -
1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2

---
sane-backends (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) artful; urgency=medium

  * Add "Provides: libsane" to libsane1 (LP: #1707352)

 -- Jeremy Bicha   Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:18:18 -0400

** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-25 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Description changed:

  Note to SRU Team
  
- The first proposed fix (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) simply added 
'Provides: libsane' but I believe that didn't work because of versioned 
dependencies.
- 
- This second proposal (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu3) adds a transitional
- package libsane and will therefore need NEW processing.
+ The first proposed fix (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) failed because it 
needed to be a versioned Provides, not just a Provides.
  
  Impact
  ==
  
  1) The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1-experimental "to
  match with the soname". This apparently fixes a Lintian warning, but
  makes installing 3rd-party plug-ins hard, as they typically depend on
  "libsane", not on "libsane1". The first try to add a "Provides: libsane"
  to libsane1 (which created a virtual package) didn't make drivers
  installable that claim to depend on a minimum version of libsane as
  virtual packages are ignored in this case.
  
  2) The soname change might be justified by the new version breaking
  (several? most?) 3rd party plug-ins even if the library version number
  doesn't indicate any bigger change than any ordinary new version of the
  library - which might indicate that this phenomenon might be an upstream
  bug.
  
  libsane 1.0.25 in zesty includes libsane.so.1.25
  libsane1 1.0.27 in artful includes libsane.so.1.27
  
  It is to note that depending on the manufacturer for many old scanners
  there won't be new versions of the plug-ins that are recompiled like
  this.
  
  Test Case
  =
  Visit http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
  Download the amd64 deb .tar.gz
  Unzip it.
  Install the iscan .deb from the core folder.
  
  It won't install before this SRU because it Depends: libsane
  
  Regression Potential
  
  The fix here was proposed to the Debian maintainer in July but there's been 
virtually zero response on it. In the meantime the workaround that was proposed 
initially has started to result in automatically uninstalling gtk - which makes 
the system basically useless.
  
  It doesn't seem like adding the Provides will make things any worse for
  third-party drivers but it has a goodme chance of making things better
  for some.
  
- Impossibility of workarounds
- 
- Just installing an old version of libsane is impossible as it uninstalls 
libgtk (which depends on libsane1 which conflicts with libsane) making the 
system basically useless.
- 
  Original Bug Report
  ===
  I don't know if that can be prevented in the long run. But both brscan (for 
my brother scanner) and iscan (for my epson scanners) have been broken by the 
change from libsane to libsane1. For iscan I have unpackaged the debian 
package, changed the dependency it contains from libsane to libsane1 and 
installed the changed package. But even then my epson scanners no more work 
leaving me without any scanner => Reporting a bug.
+ 
+ Impossibility of workarounds
+ 
+ Just installing an old version of libsane is impossible as it uninstalls 
libgtk (which depends on libsane1 which conflicts with libsane) making the 
system basically useless.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
  Package: libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental1ubuntu2
  Uname: Linux 4.13.0-041300rc2-lowlatency x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.6-0ubuntu4
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sat Jul 29 08:38:15 2017
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  SourcePackage: sane-backends
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-25 Thread luca.mg
Still on the ugly workaround, while the Epson 4490 scanner keeps
working, I further tested with my Brother MFC 1910W printer/scanner,
which used to work on zesty. Xsane doesn't see the scanner, it only
works as root, that isn't even running sudo xsane, but taking the risk
to assign a password to root and running the terminal, su root, giving
the newly created password and issuing the xsane command. This is no
matter what: I tried to add the relevant lines to the
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-libsane.rules file, adding the user to the saned
and the scanner groups, thinkering with the /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file,
and everything I could possibly think of. Printing works as usual.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-24 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Description changed:

+ Note to SRU Team
+ 
+ The first proposed fix (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2) simply added 
'Provides: libsane' but I believe that didn't work because of versioned 
dependencies.
+ 
+ This second proposal (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu3) adds a transitional
+ package libsane and will therefore need NEW processing.
+ 
  Impact
  ==
  
  1) The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1-experimental "to
  match with the soname". This apparently fixes a Lintian warning, but
  makes installing 3rd-party plug-ins hard, as they typically depend on
  "libsane", not on "libsane1". The first try to add a "Provides: libsane"
  to libsane1 (which created a virtual package) didn't make drivers
  installable that claim to depend on a minimum version of libsane as
  virtual packages are ignored in this case.
  
  2) The soname change might be justified by the new version breaking
  (several? most?) 3rd party plug-ins even if the library version number
  doesn't indicate any bigger change than any ordinary new version of the
  library - which might indicate that this phenomenon might be an upstream
  bug.
  
  libsane 1.0.25 in zesty includes libsane.so.1.25
  libsane1 1.0.27 in artful includes libsane.so.1.27
  
  It is to note that depending on the manufacturer for many old scanners
  there won't be new versions of the plug-ins that are recompiled like
  this.
  
  Test Case
  =
  Visit http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
  Download the amd64 deb .tar.gz
  Unzip it.
  Install the iscan .deb from the core folder.
  
  It won't install before this SRU because it Depends: libsane
  
  Regression Potential
  
  The fix here was proposed to the Debian maintainer in July but there's been 
virtually zero response on it. In the meantime the workaround that was proposed 
initially has started to result in automatically uninstalling gtk - which makes 
the system basically useless.
  
  It doesn't seem like adding the Provides will make things any worse for
  third-party drivers but it has a goodme chance of making things better
  for some.
  
  Impossibility of workarounds
  
  Just installing an old version of libsane is impossible as it uninstalls 
libgtk (which depends on libsane1 which conflicts with libsane) making the 
system basically useless.
  
  Original Bug Report
  ===
  I don't know if that can be prevented in the long run. But both brscan (for 
my brother scanner) and iscan (for my epson scanners) have been broken by the 
change from libsane to libsane1. For iscan I have unpackaged the debian 
package, changed the dependency it contains from libsane to libsane1 and 
installed the changed package. But even then my epson scanners no more work 
leaving me without any scanner => Reporting a bug.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
  Package: libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental1ubuntu2
  Uname: Linux 4.13.0-041300rc2-lowlatency x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.6-0ubuntu4
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sat Jul 29 08:38:15 2017
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  SourcePackage: sane-backends
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-24 Thread Hans Schwimmbeck
I called the workaround "ugly", because it bypasses the apt package
management routines and there might be no easy way back when a working
upgrade is released.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-24 Thread luca.mg
The ugly workaround from Hans Schwimmbeck works for me with the Epson
4490 scanner (iscan gtx 750 bundle). During install I was required to
allow the uninstall of the colord package, which I did, reinstalling it
soon after; strangely the removal of colord didn't remove gnome related
stuff as experienced in previous attempts to play with the zesty libsane
(?!?!?). Other than issuing the hold command in the terminal I've also
had to pin the relevant packages within synaptic, or else the software
updater would try to upgrade libsane to libsane1 (?!?!? again). This so
called ugly workaround is the most elegant solution available at the
moment IMHO, thank You for sharing Hans; my workaround (post #16) was
preventing the upgrade of many packages, while this supposedly ugly fix
doesn't.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-23 Thread Michael Barraclough
I have an Epson Perfection V500 scanner. It worked perfectly until
upgrading from Kubuntu 17:04 to 17:10. Now the scanner cannot be found.
I have tried reinstalling the drivers from iscan-
gt-x770-bundle-1.0.1.x64.deb. This will not install saying

Package libsane is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  libsane1:i386 libsane1

E: Package 'libsane' has no installation candidate

Help please. No scanner means no work. No work means move back to
Windows. Really don't want to do that!!!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-23 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Scanning using a HP Officejet Pro 476 attached via network works with
libsane1 (proved with simple-scan)

scanimage -L
device `hpaio:/net/hp_officejet_pro_x476dw_mfp?ip=192.168.200.43=false' 
is a Hewlett-Packard hp_officejet_pro_x476dw_mfp all-in-one

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-23 Thread luca.mg
Dear Jeremy, if this "Please keep the comments respectful." is addressed
to me, since english is not my first language I want to clarify that I
did not mean to be unrespectful; what I mean is that this looks more
like a wart rather than a bug to me, please don't take this personal,
and I'm ready to publicly apologize for taking apples for oranges if I
was wrong, in the meanwhile no offense intended. And I'm not upset, just
willing to help up fixing this hiccup.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread PeterPall
As a 2nd look this is actually 2 bugs:

  - renaming the library broke nearly all 3rd party drivers
  - some drivers were additionally broken by a upstream change.

Perhaps we should split the bug into two parts: Creating a "libsane"
that does nothing but depend on "libsane1" will fix the 1st of these
bugs. The second one might require help of the sane developers,
though...

** Description changed:

  Impact
  ==
- The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1-experimental "to match with 
the soname". This apparently fixes a Lintian warning. Also the soname change 
might be justified by the new version breaking most 3rd party plug-ins even if 
the library version number doesn't any bigger change than any ordinary new 
version of the library:
+ 
+ 1) The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1-experimental "to
+ match with the soname". This apparently fixes a Lintian warning, but
+ makes installing 3rd-party plug-ins hard, as they typically depend on
+ "libsane", not on "libsane1". The first try to add a "Provides: libsane"
+ to libsane1 (which created a virtual package) didn't make drivers
+ installable that claim to depend on a minimum version of libsane as
+ virtual packages are ignored in this case.
+ 
+ 2) The soname change might be justified by the new version breaking
+ (several? most?) 3rd party plug-ins even if the library version number
+ doesn't indicate any bigger change than any ordinary new version of the
+ library - which might indicate that this phenomenon might be an upstream
+ bug.
  
  libsane 1.0.25 in zesty includes libsane.so.1.25
  libsane1 1.0.27 in artful includes libsane.so.1.27
  
- The breaking of all plug-ins might be an upstream bug - which is allowed in 
an experimental package, but is unfortunate as in Ubuntu this package went 
mainstream; The library rename is an additional factor that makes it impossible 
to install any scanner drivers for libsane that are distributed as a .deb 
unless the driver distributors recompiles against Ubuntu 17.10+.
- It is to note that depending on the manufacturer for many old scanners there 
won't be new versions of the plug-ins that are recompiled like this;  Adding a 
Provides: libsane to the library might therefore make some plug-ins work, 
perhaps.
+ It is to note that depending on the manufacturer for many old scanners
+ there won't be new versions of the plug-ins that are recompiled like
+ this.
  
  Test Case
  =
  Visit http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
  Download the amd64 deb .tar.gz
  Unzip it.
  Install the iscan .deb from the core folder.
  
  It won't install before this SRU because it Depends: libsane
  
  Regression Potential
  
  The fix here was proposed to the Debian maintainer in July but there's been 
virtually zero response on it. In the meantime the workaround that was proposed 
initially has started to result in automatically uninstalling gtk - which makes 
the system basically useless.
  
  It doesn't seem like adding the Provides will make things any worse for
  third-party drivers but it has a goodme chance of making things better
  for some.
  
  Impossibility of workarounds
  
  Just installing an old version of libsane is impossible as it uninstalls 
libgtk (which depends on libsane1 which conflicts with libsane) making the 
system basically useless.
  
  Original Bug Report
  ===
  I don't know if that can be prevented in the long run. But both brscan (for 
my brother scanner) and iscan (for my epson scanners) have been broken by the 
change from libsane to libsane1. For iscan I have unpackaged the debian 
package, changed the dependency it contains from libsane to libsane1 and 
installed the changed package. But even then my epson scanners no more work 
leaving me without any scanner => Reporting a bug.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
  Package: libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental1ubuntu2
  Uname: Linux 4.13.0-041300rc2-lowlatency x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.6-0ubuntu4
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sat Jul 29 08:38:15 2017
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  SourcePackage: sane-backends
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Please keep the comments respectful. I encourage you to click the "Does
this bug affect you?" button at the top of this bug instead of adding
comments to say that you are affected and that you are upset.

I am working on fixing this bug. My first attempt to fix this bug didn't
work so I will try a new approach this week (see comment #40 ).

Ubuntu's standard policy for Stable Release Updates is that they should
be tested in -proposed for at least a week so that -updates are less
likely to introduce bugs. Please be patient.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Jochen
9 month is a long time without a scanner ... I don't see waiting for the
next version as an option.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Juergen Schuppke
I did following using synaptic

uninstall Gnome Gnome-session
uninstall libsane1.0.27 experimental
install xubuntu
add  http://ppa.launchpad.net/rolfbensch/sane-release/ubuntu artful main
reload
install libsane 1.0.27-artful
close synaptic
load iscan package from epson website
install it with terminal: sudo ./install.sh
restart

my scanner: epson perfection v200

for the next time I use xubuntu.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread luca.mg
Installing xenial lts right now, but what if libsane1 will survive
despite the fact that it breaks compatibility with many scanners out in
the wild?

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Many thanks to everybody who tries to fix this.

IMHO Things go wrong, but keep in mind 17.10 lives for 9 months, so no
real tragedy. Quite more important is that 18.04 LTS will work out-of-
box.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread luca.mg
...obsolete by an arbitrary development (mis)decision.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread luca.mg
Installed libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 and the Epson driver
doesn't complain about the unmet dependancies anymore, it won't properly
install however, resulting in a broken package, impossible to fix, only
option is to remove it. This is not a bug IMHO, renaming the package is
"operator error", and an insane decision. Wouldn't it be easier to just
stick to the working naming instead of messing around with iffy tricks
to get this piece of software in a working state? As an early Linux
addict, from the 90s Slackware days, this is the first time I feel like
being on MS Windows, with fully working hardware to be replaced because
becoming

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Neil Gunther
Still no joy:

Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-security InRelease
Hit:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu artful InRelease 
Hit:3 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful InRelease 
Get:4 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-updates InRelease [65.4 kB]
Hit:5 http://qgis.org/debian-nightly artful InRelease  
Fetched 65.4 kB in 0s (71.4 kB/s)  
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package libsane is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  libsane1:i386 libsane1

E: Package 'libsane' has no installation candidate

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Jeremy Bicha
I think we can fix this instead by adding a transitional package libsane
which will depend on libsane1.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread Daniel Eckl
The status for Artful is "fix committed". I think that's a mistake. With
the committed sane version in artful-proposed, the iscan package does
not install like described above, and when installed forcefully, it does
not recognize the scanner.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-22 Thread guascoe
Hans Schwimmbeck "ugly" workaround works for me.
Epson xp-312 is now working also with ISCAN on lan 
TNX Hans!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-21 Thread Unbekannte Person
How can ubuntu make such mistakes? I hope a patch comes immediately,
because for a new release is very shameful!

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-21 Thread Hans Schwimmbeck
Hopefully this bug will be fixed eventually, but for now I found an ugly
workaround which made my Brother scanner (brscan3 driver) work again.

- Installed the equivs package.

- Purged libsane1 by 'sudo dpkg --purge --ignore-depends=libsane1
libsane1'.

- Installed the zesty versions of libsane, libsane-common and sane-utils
by 'sudo dpkg -i' and marked them not to be upgraded by 'sudo apt-mark
hold libsane libsane-common sane-utils'.

- Created a controlfile 'libsane1' by 'equivs-control libsane1' and edited it 
so that it looks like this:

### Commented entries have reasonable defaults.
### Uncomment to edit them.
# Source: 
Section: misc
Priority: optional
# Homepage: 
Standards-Version: 3.9.2

Package: libsane1
Version: 4:99
# Maintainer: Your Name 
# Pre-Depends: 
# Depends: 
# Recommends: 
# Suggests: 
# Provides: 
# Replaces: 
# Architecture: all
# Multi-Arch: 
# Copyright: 
# Changelog: 
# Readme: 
# Extra-Files: 
# Files: 
#  
Description: dummy package 
 dummy package for libsane1



- Built a dummy package libsane1_99_all.deb by 'equivs-build libsane1'
and installed it by 'sudo dpkg -i' to satisfy dependencies.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-21 Thread staedtler-przyborski
In the meanwhile I discovered:

The Epson XP-540 Scanner-part is identical to the Standalone Epson V39
Scanner. For the V39 the plugin-gt-s650 comes in two flavours: As fully
functional imagescan plugin, which doesn't have libsane as dependency
and as non-functional iscan plugin which relys on libsane.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-21 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Epson XP-540 attached locally also works (tested with simple-scan)

scanimage -L
device `imagescan:esci:networkscan://192.168.50.24:1865' is a Epson XP-540 
device 
`imagescan:esci:usb:/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-8/3-8:1.0' is a 
EPSON XP-540_Series

It uses the imagescan-plugin-gt-s650 which installed flawless

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-21 Thread staedtler-przyborski
My Epson XP-540 works.

Curiously with simple-scan and with xsane, but not with Imagescan provided by 
Epson.
But thats another problem, image-scan scans but can't save the scanned image 
... With Ubuntu 17.04 (using Sane 1.0.25) behaviour of imagescan was identical. 
I already reported this months ago Epson at https://github.com/utsushi to be 
exactly. Maybe Olaf Meeuwissen (Sane developer) someday will fix it.

Seems time that I should try what happens when I attach the XP 540
locally, then it needs another plugin than networkscan. Hopefully I find
the time this weekend to test.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-20 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
To be exact, when specified in xerox_mfp.conf with tcp , the device 
gets detected.
The problem is that an attempt to scan or acquire a preview results in an error 
and the Workcentre remains in "scanning" forever - kind of hang. I wouldn't 
call it "being functional".
Above means that despite your Epson XP-540 gets detected, doesn't mean it will 
work.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-20 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Just for the record. When installing iscan and esci-interpreter-gt-f720
using 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends', they get installed. But my Epson
V300 is not recognized.

When I start 'scanimage -L' only my Epson XP-540 networkscanner is
found, not my local attached Epson V300

scanimage -L
device `imagescan:esci:networkscan://192.168.50.24:1865' is a Epson XP-540.

And yes 'libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2' is installed and in
use. Luckily it don't breaks my Epson XP-540.

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[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread Jeremy Bicha
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