[Bug 133115] Re: every 21st boot my system gets checked
This is a feature in Ubuntu. You can change this behavior with a tool called tune2fs. More information can be found on: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup/ -- every 21st boot my system gets checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/133115 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 133115] Re: every 21st boot my system gets checked
Seriously, this can't be called a feature. I've never seen any other operating system do this. Why does Windows not need this? Why does Ubuntu need this? Doesn't Ubuntu have a journalling file system? Then, why should this check be done, at all? Do you have any statistics of desktop computers that prove that this is required or was this feature chosen because someone just found it useful? Also, you can't tell every user to go to the console to turn this annoying feature off. People coming from Windows will find this annoying and it definitely doesn't make Linux more user-friendly to them. -- every 21st boot my system gets checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/133115 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 133115] Re: every 21st boot my system gets checked
Thank you for your suggestion. However, the changes you are requesting aren't really a bug and require more discussion, which should be done on an appropriate mailing list or forum. [WWW] http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists might be a good start for determining which mailing list to use. Even if you do not agree with this feature, it is a feature, and is the default. Therefore, this bug has been marked as invalid. Feel free to discuss your views further on the mailing lists, as they are welcome. But let me add this as well, just to help you understand what is going on... Do you have any statistics of desktop computers that prove that this is required or was this feature chosen because someone just found it useful? From wikipedia - A journaling file system is designed such that tools such as fsck do not need to be run as often. Notice it doesn't say at all. This is a proactive step to avoid possible issues, and most users would much rather run that, and not have an issue, then run into a larger problem down the road. Also, it is fairly easy to alter the settings. If in your case the scan takes too long, you have the ability to change the settings. But for myself (on many many computers) and for others I know, the scan takes but a minute or so. Also, you can't tell every user to go to the console to turn this annoying feature off. People coming from Windows will find this annoying and it definitely doesn't make Linux more user-friendly to them. It is far better then trying to explain to them how to manually run 'fsck' from a LiveCD, etc. Seriously, this can't be called a feature. I've never seen any other operating system do this. Why does Windows not need this? Why does Ubuntu need this? Doesn't Ubuntu have a journalling file system? Then, why should this check be done, at all? Windows absolutely runs a check as well as OSX. Remember back in the day, pre-XP, you would boot to the annoying ScanDisk. Or even with XP, with the lovely blue disk checking screen (and no that doesn't ONLY run due to a bad shutdown). The Windows scan takes forever... Hope this better relays the methodology behind 'fsck', It is far better to run an auto-check, then wait and have a problem. Thanks, Justin M. Wray ** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- every 21st boot my system gets checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/133115 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 133115] Re: every 21st boot my system gets checked
I really don't want to go through the hassle of joining a mailing list, getting 50 mails per day, and discussing this one week long (esp. since I'm sure that there will be incredibly many people who think that this feature is necessary and that it's no problem at all to go to the command line and turn that feature off, although actually only experts will be able to do that). I guess I will wait some more, get more annoyed, and then my motivation is high enough to start that flame war... :) It is far better then trying to explain to them how to manually run 'fsck' from a LiveCD, etc. IMHO, it's better to tell someone what to do when he has a problem instead of impose a problem on all of us. I bet that the number of people with a problem that couldn't be fixed by running fsck on failure is far smaller than those without a problem, at all. Windows absolutely runs a check as well as OSX. Remember back in the day, pre-XP, you would boot to the annoying ScanDisk. Or even with XP, with the lovely blue disk checking screen (and no that doesn't ONLY run due to a bad shutdown). The Windows scan takes forever... I've never seen that blue disk checking screen in the last two years (though, I remember having it seen before). I'm serious. Maybe that's because I used NTFS... Even when I crashed the system it didn't need a check. Seriously, I'm not making this up. Hope this better relays the methodology behind 'fsck', It is far better to run an auto-check, then wait and have a problem. Thanks for taking the time to explain this. I do agree that a check could be necessary after a crash, but the check, as configured by default, is running far too often. The fact that there exists a manual on how to turn that feature off (targeted at laptop users) should actually make people suspicious. Could you please at least consider running fsck less often (by a factor of ten would be nice :)? -- every 21st boot my system gets checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/133115 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
