[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-04-08 Thread Colin Ian King
** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-03-21 Thread Richard Laager
The right fix is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1527727

If you bring 0.6.5.6 and patch Ubuntu's GRUB to set that environment
variable, then the udev rules can go away entirely.

Otherwise, as to the debdiff in #38, it is fine, but the "raid"
condition is unnecessary as per my and dasjoe's previous comments.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-03-21 Thread Hajo Möller
I don't see why we would need have ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="raid", wouldn't
ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="zfs_member" suffice?

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-03-21 Thread Colin Ian King
Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a couple of weeks because of an
operation.  So just checking, is the debdiff in comment #38 ok by you
Richard?

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Richard Laager
As far as I know, it's not a necessary condition. It's the first time
I've seen it in a zfs_member udev rule.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Chad Miller
Richard, It was on all the zpool devices I checked with "udevadm info",
and seemed to be related to the filesystem contents. That's all. Why?

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Richard Laager
Why do you have ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="raid"?

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Chad Miller
You're right, richard. The right thing to do is to fix grub. Having
these rules at all is Wrong. Once grub is fixed, we will rip these out.
We won't need to support them at all then.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Chad Miller
Make this work, even for MBR disklabel, and GPT disklabel with wrong
partition type id.

Neither the disklabel kind nor the partition type id are a necessary
part of creating ZFS pools, We shouldn't require it here too.

** Patch added: "debdiff against ubuntu xenial"
   
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** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Richard Laager
@colin-king: It looks like we were commenting at the same time.
Including *both* rules is not harmful in any *technical* way. The only
concern I have is that then you're "supporting" other partition types,
which may "obligate" you to do that "forever" (quotes because none of
these things are literally true). That is, once you start supporting
other partition types, people will expect that to not go away suddenly.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Colin Ian King
@Richard, do you have any views on this potential fix?

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Colin Ian King
OK, if you attach a debdiff I'll apply this for the next upload

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Richard Laager
Chad, I'm not opposed to Ubuntu including both, but if you look at the
comment history, you'll see that I switched from zfs_member to the
partition type for a reason. `zpool create` doesn't trigger udev,
whereas partitioning tools do (by triggering the kernel to re-read the
partition table). As a result, if we use a "zfs_member" rule, the udev
rule doesn't fire until we either reboot or manually run `udevadm
trigger`. That doesn't work well for an initial install (which is
currently a manual process, but ideally some day we'll have installer
support).

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Chad Miller
** Attachment added: "60-zpool.rules"
   
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-22 Thread Chad Miller
ZFS is so new to Linux that the paritioning tools we have don't have a
ZFS in the Linux section of GPT partition types. We can find it in
FreeBSD, Solaris, and Apple.

Someone is likely to pick something with Linux in the name like Linux
Filesystem.  That would be wrong for this patch.

The FreeBSD one would be wrong for this patch too.

udev can look at the filesystem information instead of the parition type
id too. So, I suggest a new rule to catch all ZFS partitions by their
contents.


KERNEL=="sd*[0-9]", IMPORT{parent}=="ID_*", ENV{ID_PART_ENTRY_SCHEME}=="gpt", 
ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="zfs_member", ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="raid", 
SYMLINK+="$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-part%n"

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-19 Thread Colin Ian King
** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-09 Thread Colin Ian King
If you can test the ~4 and let us know if that's good, then please do,
otherwise I can't upload it.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-09 Thread Richard Laager
I've attached a new 60-zpool.rules. Instead of matching on
ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="zfs_member", it uses ENV{ID_PART_ENTRY_SCHEME}=="gpt",
ENV{ID_PART_ENTRY_TYPE}=="6a898cc3-1dd2-11b2-99a6-080020736631".

That is, it matches based on the partition type. This way, the rule
matches when the partition is created, rather than when the pool is
created. Otherwise, the rule doesn't trigger on the initial pool
creation.

** Attachment added: "60-zpool.rules"
   
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-09 Thread Colin Ian King
Thanks again Richard,  I've uploaded ~4 to the PPA and it's ready for
testing.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-09 Thread Richard Laager
Yes, that works fine.

I'm seeing deadlocks on 0.6.5.4, but that has nothing to do with this
change.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-08 Thread Colin Ian King
Hi Richard, thanks for the patch, I've applied this and made the
changelog entry change and uploaded a ~3 version in ppa:colin-
king/zfs-0.6.5.4-alpha  - if you don't mind a further test on this and
if it looks good I'll get it pushed.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Laager
Also, the changelog entry for the udev rules file is wrong. The correct
filename is: /lib/udev/rules.d/60-zpool.rules

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Laager
We still need the `udevadm trigger` so the udev rule applies without a
reboot. Attached is a debdiff. This postinst follows the pattern that
other packages use. I've verified that it has the desired effect.

** Patch added: "zfs-initramfs-udevadm.debdiff"
   
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-07 Thread Richard Laager
This looks solid. One thing I wanted to note... putting the udev rules
in zfs-initramfs means that someone installing a system needs to install
zfs-initramfs outside of the chroot. If that file was in zfsutils-linux,
they wouldn't have to install the extra package. For my HOWTO, it
doesn't really matter. And at the moment, I still think it's the right
call to ship the udev rules in zfs-initramfs (since they're only needed
in that scenario). But I wanted to make sure you're aware of this
detail.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-07 Thread Richard Laager
Attached is a debdiff relative to the alpha PPA. This is the last of the
changes I have already implemented for the boot process.

It reworks the zfs initramfs script to more closely follow the upstream
Debian (non-zfs) initramfs scripts. Instead of using a ZFS-specific
/etc/default parameter to add a minimum delay to the boot process, it
uses the rootdelay= kernel command-line parameter used in other Debian
initramfs scripts, and makes it a maximum delay. This means that
administrators who need to add a delay (which is not the default) can
set a larger delay for safety without forcing that extra delay on every
boot.

It uses the standard Debian panic function, which then honors the panic=
kernel command-line option, which can be set to disable the initramfs
panic shell for security reasons. It also follows the upstream goal of
clearing all the environment variables which are set.

This is a net code reduction.

Here's a slightly different version of that explanation:
https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/commit/50f30514c35d2ba2d915e0b327932b260eecce09

This change is explicitly and intentionally drops support for the rpool=
and bootfs= parameters. I would like to see them gone before ZFS support
hits an Ubuntu LTS release, because it'll be harder to drop that support
later. If you would like to maintain support for rpool= and bootfs= but
like the rest of the changes, I can update the script to that effect.

** Attachment added: "Re-architect initramfs script"
   
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-07 Thread Richard Laager
Actually, it looks like we need a `udevadm trigger` in zfs-initramfs's
postinst script. Installing the package does not currently result in
those devices appearing.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-07 Thread Colin Ian King
Thanks for the patch Richard. I've uploaded ~2 to the PPA and it should
be ready for testing in a short while.  Let me know if this works OK and
then I can re-test this on monday and sync it to Xenial.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-02-05 Thread Colin Ian King
Richard, I've put your changes into the 0.6.5.4 and uploaded it into the
following test ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~colin-
king/+archive/ubuntu/zfs-0.6.5.4-alpha

Do you mind giving this a test and if it looks sane I'll upload it next
week.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-31 Thread Colin Ian King
I'll roll this into Xenial zfs-linux after  we've got 0.6.5.4 uploaded
(hopefully sometime this week).

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-26 Thread Richard Laager
Actually, I think the numbering for that udev file should NOT be in the
90s. I think the 90s are for the system administrator. So we probably
want 60-zfs-vdev.rules if it's shipped by the package.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-26 Thread Hajo Möller
I am not sure whether adding an udev rule that may (or may not, if not
using wholedisk) work is a good idea.

Although, until grub's behavior is fixed shipping a sensible workaround
seems useful, if the rule file can include a bit of documentation like a
short explanation why it is necessary and commented examples for other
setups.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-26 Thread Richard Laager
I'm attaching a debdiff which outlines the changes necessary to ship a
rules.d file. It uses proper numbering in the name, is installed in the
right place, and has the right rule. I've tested the package with this
change applied. It also has a comment explaining what it does and why
it's necessary.

If we feel it is necessary to provide an example for wholedisk setups,
then I think we should ship an additional file in /etc (so it's
modifiable by the administrator) with the commented out example. I can
do that, if that's what is decided is desirable.

Also, I've removed the incorrect Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser lines which say
that the source of this package is still github.com/dajhorn/pkg-git.

** Patch added: "zfs-linux.debdiff"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-initramfs/+bug/1530953/+attachment/4557193/+files/zfs-linux.debdiff

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-22 Thread Colin Ian King
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   Status: In Progress => Incomplete

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-22 Thread Colin Ian King
Followed the excellent instructions in
https://github.com/rlaager/zfs/wiki/HOWTO-Install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-
ZFS-Root-Filesystem and using the updated zfs-initramfs package I can
now boot just using root=ZFS=rpool/ROOT/ubuntu ro

Thanks for the patch, I'll get this uploaded into Xenial

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-22 Thread Hajo Möller
As a sidenote, this coupled with #1530457 should bring full support for
a standard and portable rpool setup to Ubuntu, making it one of the
first distributions that is able to boot natively off a pool with all
currently implemented ZFS feature flags enabled/active.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-22 Thread Richard Laager
Can you also ship an /etc/udev/rules.d/90-zfs-vdev.rules with these
contents?

KERNEL=="sd*[0-9]", IMPORT{parent}=="ID_*",
ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="zfs_member",
SYMLINK+="$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-part%n"

This makes GRUB work if the user uses /dev/disk/by-id/x names, which
upstream ZFS-on-Linux recommends. Without that, the user is required to
use /dev/sdx names.

Note that this ONLY supports root-on-ZFS-on-partitions. Using partitions
is what the upstream HOWTO recommends, what the current version of my
HOWTO recommends (but not past versions), how other filesystems are
configured on Linux, and what Solaris and its derivatives use for root-
on-ZFS (which is also the default there).

I fought the good fight trying to make ZFS "wholedisk" root installs a
thing on Linux, but that cannot work well without changes to GRUB. GRUB
is simply not architected in a way to handle this well. (I wrote a patch
to GRUB that makes it work, but it feels hacky and was rejected by
upstream GRUB.) Fundamentally, the idea of giving ZFS the whole disk but
then having ZFS partition the disk and use a partition is just messy.
It's definitely a layering violation.

So for now, I'd like to see Ubuntu support root-on-ZFS-on-partitions. If
circumstances change, it's easy to expand that later. But if you start
supporting root-on-ZFS-on-wholedisk, then you're kinda stuck supporting
that forever. So I'd rather see the conservative approach of only
supporting partitions for now.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-21 Thread Colin Ian King
Sorry about that, stupid mistake by me.

I've uploaded a new version into a different PPA, can you check this now
works?

ppa:colin-king/zfs-xenial-lp1530953

Thanks

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-19 Thread Richard Laager
In my original patch, I added BOOT=zfs code to conf.d/zfs. In your
package, you have that code in conf-hooks.d/zfs instead.

I installed the package from your PPA. It does not work. If I move the
code from conf-hooks.d/zfs to conf.d/zfs, then it works.

Here's my HOWTO for doing a ZFS root install:
https://github.com/rlaager/zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-
ZFS-Root-Filesystem

For xenial, just substitute "xenial" for "wily" when doing the
debootstrap and in /etc/apt/sources.list.

The goal of this change is to avoid what is currently step 4.7, adding
"rpool=rpool bootfs=rpool/ROOT/ubuntu boot=zfs" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in
/etc/default/grub.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-18 Thread Colin Ian King
Richard,

I've applied the change and uploaded it to my ppa:colin-king/zfs-xenial-
experimental

I would appreciate it if you can test this for me, and for reference, explain 
the testing procedure you used so I can try this myself.
The build package should be ready to test by 17:00 UTC.

Colin

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Colin Ian King
Upstream commit info: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/pull/140

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Colin Ian King
Looking at the commit, is there any reason that this has not been
accepted by upstream?

Noting comment by ryao on 2 Oct 2015:

"If I recall correctly, the root=ZFS=$DATASET syntax is myself and
either @dajhorn or @rlaager agreed to use to adopt as something of a
standard back in 2012. I would like to revisit it because the
root=ZFS=$DATASET syntax does not properly handle pool namespace
collisions. Ideally, I would like the boot loader to pass the
information about the pool by passing the pool's GUID and vdev
information (using by-path syntax) to the initramfs archive through the
kernel commandline so that we can handle spa namespace collisions
completely unambiguously. I have yet to make time to work out a syntax
that makes sense and implement the hooks required for it. When this is
done, I think the old syntax should remain around for backward
compatibility.

Also, I believe that it is possible to put the required logic into the
kernel by allowing us to detect the rootfs mount via current->fs ==
NULL, but I still need to verify this is NULL at the rootfs mount with
kgdb. This would hypothetically allow us to do pool import inside the
kernel using this information without an initramfs when copy-builtin is
used to build a kernel with ZFS support. It would also simplify
initramfs design in the normal case where one is loading modules by
allowing us to omit ZFS' userland binaries from the initramfs. All we
would need to do is use the standard mount command.

This is something of a tangent, but it is the direction that my thinking
on the boot process has taken as it has evolved."

So from what I understand, this fix is a partial solution because it
does not properly handle pool namespace collisions.


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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Colin Ian King
Thanks for the update Richard.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Richard Laager
(13:17:38) rlaager: ryao: Your comment on 
https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/pull/140 is seeming to give the Ubuntu 
maintainer pause about accepting that patch. My position is that pool namespace 
collisions are a separate issue (which will require changes to GRUB as well), 
and that the patch as written is a useful improvement. Is that something you 
can agree with?
(13:41:32) ryao: rlaager: This is a good stopgap measure until someone takes 
time to implement a more complete solution. It isn't like merging this means 
GRUB2's format is going to change.
(13:42:31) ryao: To put it another way, merging this isn't going to making 
addressing the collision issue any harder and will help int he short term. It 
is fine to merge.
(13:48:49) ryao: rlaager: I just replied there.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Richard Laager
If we want to try to handle pool name collisions (and frankly, I'm not
convinced that we need to), that's a separate issue. That would involve
changing GRUB as well. This patch is a good improvement on its own. If
we want to enhance things more later, we can do that.

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-14 Thread Colin Ian King
Which release are you filing the bug against?

** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-13 Thread Colin Ian King
** Also affects: grub
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** No longer affects: grub

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-04 Thread Richard Laager
** Description changed:

  Upstream GRUB sets root=ZFS=rpool/path/to/rootfs by default. By
  supporting that syntax (while retaining the existing support for
  backwards compatibility), we can work out-of-the-box.
  
  I've attached a patch for zfs-initramfs to implement this. Note that
  since this is creating a new file in the debian/directory, you have to
  apply this patch to the packaging, not put the file in debian/patches/.
  If you put the file in debian/patches, debuild will choke.
  
  The patch has two parts. One, creating conf.d/zfs to set BOOT=zfs. This
  avoids the need to set boot=zfs on the Linux command-line in the GRUB
  configuration. The second part is a set of changes to scripts/zfs which
  grabs the ZFS= part from root= and stores that into ZFS_BOOTFS and
  ZFS_RPOOL.
  
- Submitted upstream a year ago as: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-
- zfs/pull/140
+ Submitted upstream a year ago as:
+ https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/pull/140

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[Bug 1530953] Re: Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=

2016-01-04 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
The attachment "grub-native-root-syntax.patch" seems to be a patch.  If
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