[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-23 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Yeah, it's fine, those are really small details that just raises a small
eyebrow but do nothing else :)


You are right, the process is completed.  The package also already built, and 
will be available in the archive in a matter of minutes/hours when the 
publisher runs :)

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-23 Thread Alec Leamas
@Mattia:

Thanks for review and uploading.

I guess the review boils down to that while the delta against Jammy is
reasonable small it could and should have been smaller. I can nothing
but agree. Of course, there are some explanations. Doubt they are
interesting, though.

If I get this right this was the final roadblock, and the package is now
under way without any big delays. Which means that I have completed my
first backport after stirring up quite some dust. Hopefully, it might be
smoother next time.

Thanks to all of you  who helped me here: Dan, Hjalmar and Mattia.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-23 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Looking at the diff, I also find it odd that you are changing d/watch
(according to the changelog, to please lintian?).  That's totally
useless and just noisy (nobody is going to run uscan on this...), so I
recommend you don't do that at the next backport update.

Likewise I'm not sure why you didn't drop that delta related to
debhelper 12/13 as Dan suggested.  It also doesn't really matter in the
end, but I don't understand your point about d/rules and dh_missing…

It also looks like you added a debian/docs file adding a README.  I'm
going to ignore this as it is of little consequence, but if you'd like
to install such README please do that in a debian/opencpn.docs file
(instead of debian/docs) and do that in debian first.

With this, consider the package approved.

** Changed in: opencpn (Ubuntu Focal)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-21 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
> Looking at that queue is somewhat scary, I see an entry from
2021-10-28

that's for the proposed pocked (i.e. SRUs), for backports yours is the
only package in the queue...

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-21 Thread Alec Leamas
@teward, @gunnarhj: Ah, right, this is similar to the Debian process.

Looking at that queue is somewhat scary, I see an entry from 2021-10-28.
Can just hope this goes faster.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Sponsoring alone doesnt approve it for Backports, the Backports team has
to review and approve.  I'll take a look later, in the middle of my FT
job right now.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-21 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
It's in the focal unapproved queue:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1

That's as far as I can do as a sponsor. Next it will be reviewed by
somebody in the backporters team.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-21 Thread Alec Leamas
@gunnarhj:

Now, it was some days since you sponsored me, thanks for that. However,
I still don't see it in focal-backports, at least not when browsing. Is
this normal i. e.,  how long am I supposed to wait before package
becomes visible?

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-19 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
> Is that mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports ?

u.U - somehow, despite the plenty of reviews we made to the drafts of
that page we still managed to miss it.

thank you!

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-19 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2022-01-19 13:36, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> please remember to subscribe ~ubuntu-backporters for BPO bugs...

Is that mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports ? (I don't
see it.)

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-19 Thread Alec Leamas
@Mattia: OK, will do. Still learning.

Seems that having a discussion on ubuntu-devel is fruitful in many ways,
though ;)

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-19 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
please remember to subscribe ~ubuntu-backporters for BPO bugs...

As a backports team member learning about this bug from a ubuntu-devel-
discuss mail felt odd :3

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Re: [Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-18 Thread Alec Leamas
Deleted: Swedish talk

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-18 Thread Alec Leamas
@gunnar: I found the bogus debian/ files. It's in the upstream sources,
used for PPA builds. The strange thing is that "gbp buildpackage" works
without problems which has made the package sail through all Debian
checks.

Anyway, the package is repackaged, so it's just to add debian to the
directories to strip. Will do.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-18 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2022-01-18 22:53, Alec Leamas wrote:
>> One oddity is that the orig.tar.xz file includes a debian/ folder
> 
> WTF?!  Something is rotten in pristine-tar, will check again. Thanks
> for notifying.

Note that I didn't grab orig.tar.xz from the repo, but simply downloaded
it from the Ubuntu archive.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-18 Thread Alec Leamas
@Gunnar: Man tackar (a. k. a. thanks for sponsoring)!

>  Please unsubscribe ~ubuntu-sponsors from this bug.

Done

> One oddity is that the orig.tar.xz file includes a debian/ folder

WTF?!  Something is rotten in pristine-tar, will check again. Thanks for
notifying.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-18 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
I sponsored this to focal-backports.

One oddity is that the orig.tar.xz file includes a debian/ folder
including a debian/compat file. I had to remove the d/compat file to be
able to run debuild() successfully.

@Alec: Please unsubscribe ~ubuntu-sponsors from this bug.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
@dan: I can understand if this thing take too much time for you. I'm
just a newbie which runs into obstacles others doesn't know  about --
that's what newbies do.

Also, this discussion does not really belong to the issue. Should we
start a thread on ubuntu-devel instead, to get more eyes on it? Continue
here? or?

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
Turns out that this application process is a interesting chicken and egg
problem ;)

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
Havn't tried that one, doing it now... result: "You are not allowed to
edit this page."

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Dan Streetman
> However, to be able to do it I need to be member of the Ubuntu Wiki
Editors Team. My application for that is pending:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors.

hmm, that doesn't sound right to me, I'm not a member of that team but I
can create/edit wiki.ubuntu.com pages...granted that might be because of
some other team I'm on, but I thought wiki.ubuntu.com was editable by
anyone with an Ubuntu One account (i.e. anyone who can log in at
login.ubuntu.com).

What wiki page are you trying to create? Something named similar to this right?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlecLeamas/PPUopencpn

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
> Since you have a LP account, I'm pretty sure you should be able to
create a wiki page for yourself.

Nope.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
I guessed something like that. However, to be able to do it I need to be
member of the Ubuntu Wiki Editors Team. My application for that is
pending: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors.

I have so far tried to learn the virtue of patience in the Debian
community. I have my background in Fedora, and the longish Debian
processes is, well, fostering your character. Guess Ubunti is the
same...

Thanks for all support!

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-13 Thread Dan Streetman
Hmm yes you're right that the wiki pages are a bit confusing, they
probably could do with a bit of updates to clarify things.

In any case for you, this is the section for *all* applications:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess#Applying_for_team_membership

so you only need to create a wiki page using the normal template:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/DeveloperApplicationTemplate

Since you have a LP account, I'm pretty sure you should be able to
create a wiki page for yourself.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
I'll try to make an application. F

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
...irst step is to become member of the wiki group. Waiting for that,,,

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
Sllly me read on the wrong place. Sigh. And thanks.

But the devil is in the details. That paragraph links to the process
described in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess. But
there is no description for this case. Any idea how this application
should be done?

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Streetman
> "The DMB has establised a procedure for interested Debian Developers
to gain upload rights to their packages"

that's just the process for existing DD who also already have PPU rights
to have their list of PPU packages extended.

You can apply for PPU completely separately from being DD.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#PerPackage

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
hm... when I read
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess, the
"Debian Developers applying for Per-Package upload rights" paragraph,
the first sentence is

"The DMB has establised a procedure for interested Debian Developers to
gain upload rights to their packages"

As I read this, it's pretty clear. But I could of course be wrong, and
so can of the documentation.  Thoughts?

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Streetman
> PPU rights... I first need to become a DD. I have so far said no to
this, but is about to reconsider.

No that's not true, being a DD helps but isn't required. You can have
PPU rights in Ubuntu without any upload rights for Debian.

If you mean you would *prefer* to become DD first, then yeah that's fine
and a good approach for sure.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
@Dan: thanks for input, just what I needed.

PPU rights... I first need to become a DD. I have so far said no to
this, but is about to reconsider.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Streetman
> Is there a formal process for getting in touch with a sponsor, like
the mentors site and RFS bugs in Debian? Or should I drop a mail in the
ubuntu-backports mailnig list? Or?

you've subscribed the ubuntu-sponsors team, so that's probably the best bet for 
passively finding a sponsor; there is a list that sponsors occasionally go 
through to find bugs to help with sponsoring:
https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/

However as you can see from the age of some bugs in there, I would not
describe it as a 'speedy' way to get a sponsor.

Individually asking people who have upload rights will definitely be faster, if 
you have previous experience with any sponsors. If you have more contact with 
Debian people, it's likely that some of them may also have upload rights in 
Ubuntu. Note that anyone from either of these teams can sponsor this package 
for you, in case you see someone who you know:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members
https://launchpad.net/~motu/+members

Also, I really would recommend applying for PPU upload rights just for
this package, either soon or (preferably) after you have been sponsored
for a couple uploads.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
@Dan: Thanks for review!

> While Debian uses 'Closes:', Ubuntu uses 'LP:', so this should be

Done

> technically, debhelper 13 is in focal-backports (and even bionic-
backports), but if you don't actually need level 13 it's fine to reduce
it in the backport.

Actually, it turns out the I did need it in a way. I had dropped 
override_dh_missing which is 
default in 13 but not in 12. It's now back in place, and the compat-level == 12 
is OK as far as I can see.

> I see focal has opencpn-plugins_5.0.0+dfsg-1_all.deb, which is a dummy
transitional package, but there's no corresponding opencpn-plugins
package in later releases.

Good catch, which my Debian reviews missed... Anyway, I followed your
advice and made the Breaks: and Replaces: unconditional. Update smoke
test seems OK.

> If not you may need to find a sponsor

Yes, I need a sponsor; assuming this is the hard part. Had one contact
(Gianfranco) but he seems unavailable.

Is there a formal process for getting in touch with a sponsor, like the
mentors  site and RFS bugs in Debian? Or should I drop a mail in the
ubuntu-backports mailnig list?  Or?

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-11 Thread Mathew Hodson
** Changed in: opencpn (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: opencpn (Ubuntu Focal)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Tags added: upgrade-software-version

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-06 Thread Dan Streetman
Very minor comments on changelog:

+  * Closes: #1956004

While Debian uses 'Closes:', Ubuntu uses 'LP:', so this should be
  * LP: #1956004

+  * d/control: debhelper compat 13 -> 12.

technically, debhelper 13 is in focal-backports (and even bionic-
backports), but if you don't actually need level 13 it's fine to reduce
it in the backport.


Only other comment is that I see focal has 
opencpn-plugins_5.0.0+dfsg-1_all.deb, which is a dummy transitional package, 
but there's no corresponding opencpn-plugins package in later releases. Since 
it's just dummy/empty, having it installed along with the -backports version of 
opencpn and opecpn-data shouldn't actually cause any problem, but it was 
confusing for me (and I had to spend time investigating it during review) and 
might be confusing for end-users to see different versions of the packages 
installed, e.g.:

$ dpkg -l|grep opencpn
ii  opencpn  5.6.0+dfsg1-1~bpo20.04.1  
amd64Open Source Chartplotter and Marine GPS Navigation Software
ii  opencpn-data 5.6.0+dfsg1-1~bpo20.04.1  
all  Open Source Chartplotter and Marine GPS Navigation Software (data)
ii  opencpn-plugins  5.0.0+dfsg-1  
all  Open Source Chartplotter and Marine GPS Navigation Software 
(transition)

Maybe the Replaces: should be updated to remove the version specifier
(<< 4.8.8~)?

Otherwise, assuming you've built and tested it on focal, I see no other issues. 
Do you have upload rights? If not you may need to find a sponsor, or 
alternately you can apply to the DMB for PPU rights just for opencpn.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#PerPackage


** Also affects: opencpn (Ubuntu Focal)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: opencpn (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2022-01-06 Thread Alec Leamas
FWIW, the corresponding Debian backport to bullseye-backports is
accepted.

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[Bug 1956004] Re: [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

2021-12-29 Thread Thomas Ward
** Summary changed:

- [BPO] Backport 5.6.0 from Jammy
+ [BPO] Backport opencpn 5.6.0 from Jammy

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