[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-12-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Trent: Wow, thank you! I switched away from that problematic ISP in 2017
but I'm glad it'd now function correctly by default.

George: You can file a new bug at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss-mdns unless there's
already a bug about it, and link the github issue also there.


** Also affects: nss-mdns (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: nss-mdns (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

** Changed in: nss-mdns (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: New => Won't Fix

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-11-28 Thread George
Discussion on this new issue: https://github.com/lathiat/nss-
mdns/issues/75

** Bug watch added: github.com/lathiat/nss-mdns/issues #75
   https://github.com/lathiat/nss-mdns/issues/75

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-11-28 Thread George
After some more searching I found an explanation of this issue in Ubuntu
20.04 and the correct way to disable it: https://github.com/lathiat/nss-
mdns#etcmdnsallow

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-11-28 Thread George
It seems not "fixed", but rather broken again in Ubuntu 20.04. My ISP
DNS servers respond to all ".local" queries with "127.0.0.200", and mDNS
just doesn't work in this case. Setting AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 does
not help. This is regression from 18.04 where mDNS worked fine with
default settings. And it's a pity, as mDNS is even more important after
NetBIOS/SMB1 retirement in 20.04. Should I post details here or start a
new issue?

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-04-22 Thread Magnus
That's great!

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2020-04-22 Thread Trent Lloyd
For anyone looking at this in 2020, this is fixed in nss-mdns 0.14 which
is in Ubuntu Focal 20.04 - it will now correctly pass through unicast
.local lookups.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2019-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
** Summary changed:

- Order Ambien Online to Manage Irregular Sleep-Wake Rhythm Disorder
+ Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2018-05-15 Thread Mekk
As I found this bug accidentally after years, just small remark:

a) The firm I work for keeps naming hosts in internal network
«name».ourfirm.local. Those addresses are omnipresent (from network
config to myriads of development/test/staging/whatever environments and
config files), so advice to abandon them is unlikely to be considered.
Ah, and we started our naming convention in 1997 or so. Zeroconf was
born in 2002 on Mac, appeared on Linuxes around 2007-2010, and was RFCed
in 2013 :-P

b) Still, this simply means that our „linux installation checklist” contains 
request to edit /etc/nsswitch.conf and remove
 mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]


Having said that, I still have no clue why avahi couldn't restrict itself to 
non-dns-resolvable addresses and leave those resolvable to DNS.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2016-12-04 Thread Jason Heeris
This is *still* a problem on 16.04.1 LTS. This message in syslog:

Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: Avahi detected that your currently configured local 
DNS server serves
Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: a domain .local. This is inherently incompatible 
with Avahi and thus
Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: Avahi disabled itself. If you want to use Avahi in 
this network, please
Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: contact your administrator and convince him to use 
a different DNS domain,
Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: since .local should be used exclusively for 
Zeroconf technology.
Dec  5 14:12:11 tali avahi: For more information, see 
http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal

There is no .local domain:

~ • host -t SOA local
;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
local.Home has no SOA record
~ • host -t SOA local.
;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
local has no SOA record

(Some posts I found do the lookup with a trailing dot, others omit it,
so I did both.)

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2014-01-26 Thread Stuart Bishop
** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2014-01-25 Thread Rafael
** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2014-01-24 Thread Pauli
This is a response I got from my ISP. I think it's relevant.

According to the RFC 6762 (chapter 22, IANA
considerations) the top level domain .local
should be handled as being Special-Use Domain
Names, which the RFC 6761 states the caching
DNS servers SHOULD generate immediate (positive
or negative) responses for all queries.

Basicly, one should not query any .local. names.
But as many users do this, ISPs like us must
protect root name servers from these bogus queries.

We recommend not using the avahi-daemon since
it is causing problems.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2013-11-12 Thread papukaija
** Tags removed: jaunty
** Tags added: saucy

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2013-05-18 Thread Narcis Garcia
Problem found with Ubuntu 12.04 using DNS from France Telecom.
In the target network I manage a BIND9 DNS server and ISC DHCP server, and I 
suppose I cannot intercept the .local domains with a local zone (because I 
should be returning valid values instead of NXDOMAIN).

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Hood
The original issue was, roughly, that Avahi daemon disables itself when
an ISP has a .local TLD. I take it that this is not a bug but a feature.
So perhaps this report should be marked wontfix?

A desire was also expressed that the Avahi daemon handle this situation
better, as described for example in my previous comment (#60). I have
filed a new bug report (bug #1167352) requesting that the improved
behavior be implemented.

Another alleged issue is that the current test for .local has false
positives: Exterminans claimed this in comment #46. However, his
suggested alternative for line 58 looks the same to me as the original
line 58 so I don't know what he means. Exterminans: Can you please open
a *new* bug report with a fuller explanation of this false-positive bug?

The current test for .local also suffers from false negatives. That is
bug #80900.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2013-02-05 Thread Thomas Hood
Comment #50 described how Mac OS X 10.2 did it.  Here is how Mac OS X
v10.[456] does it. (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3473).

As long as your network's DNS server is properly configured, you do not
have to make any changes on your client Mac.

Host names that contain only one label in addition to local, for example
My-Computer.local, are resolved using Multicast DNS (Bonjour) by
default. Host names that contain two or more labels in addition to
local, for example server.domain.local, are resolved using a DNS
server by default.

Additionally, Mac OS X v10.6 automatically detects when the local
network operator has set up a name server that will answer name requests
for a domain ending in .local. It does this by checking to see if
there is a Start Of Authority (SOA) record for the top level domain
local, which is how a DNS server indicates that it claims to have
authority over a part of the DNS namespace. As long as the DNS server is
properly configured with the required SOA record, Mac OS X v10.6 will
detect this SOA record and automatically use this server to look up all
host names in the domain.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2013-02-05 Thread Thomas Hood
Comment #50 described how Mac OS X 10.2 did it. Here is how Mac OS X
v10.6 does it (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3473).

As long as your network's DNS server is properly configured, you do not
have to make any changes on your client Mac.

Host names that contain only one label in addition to local, for example
My-Computer.local, are resolved using Multicast DNS (Bonjour) by
default. Host names that contain two or more labels in addition to
local, for example server.domain.local, are resolved using a DNS
server by default.

Additionally, Mac OS X v10.6 automatically detects when the local
network operator has set up a name server that will answer name requests
for a domain ending in .local. It does this by checking to see if
there is a Start Of Authority (SOA) record for the top level domain
local, which is how a DNS server indicates that it claims to have
authority over a part of the DNS namespace. As long as the DNS server is
properly configured with the required SOA record, Mac OS X v10.6 will
detect this SOA record and automatically use this server to look up all
host names in the domain.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2012-03-13 Thread Simon Josefsson
Same problem here on Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 beta. ISP is
Bredbandsbolaget in Sweden, their DNS servers are 195.54.122.200 and
195.54.122.204.

local has SOA record localhost. root.localhost. 10 604800 86400 2419200
604800

My workaround was to install my own local resolver and use that instead
of my ISPs DNS servers.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2012-02-18 Thread Timokl
Same problem with Thai ISP on Ubuntu 11.10 x64

host -t SOA local.
local has SOA record . . 1 3600 1200 604800 10800

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2012-02-18 Thread Psy[H[]
For the last couple of years my system works in office LAN with .local
domain using this line in nsswitch.conf:

hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4 wins

Both hostname.local (avahi) and hostname.domain.local (domain) machine
hostnames are being resolved normally. I didn't experience any troubles
with this setup.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2011-10-19 Thread Rolf Leggewie
** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2011-05-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Same problem here on Ubuntu 11.04 x64, using a small local ISP:

bnesbitt@ubuntu:~$ host -t SOA local
local has SOA record . . 0 0 0 0 0

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2011-04-07 Thread Hobson Lane
Same problem for free WiFi run by the city of New Orleans at New Orleans 
international airport:
 host -t SOA local
local has SOA record rxg.local. hostmaster.local. 1302159607 3600 1800 604800 
3600

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2011-04-07 Thread Hobson Lane
Still a problem for 10.10 unless you do the OpenDNS or
/etc/default/avahi work-arounds

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2011-03-18 Thread ceg
I've read that ubuntu is not checking for existing .local domains in the
release notes, however, then why does /etc/default/avahi-daemon and
avahi-daemon.default in the package still say:

AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=1

Have you hard-patched the package and made it unconfigurabe  instead of
adapting the default setting in the configuration file?

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-12-22 Thread Expelled
** Project changed: ubuntu-release-notes = hedera

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-12-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
** Project changed: hedera = ubuntu-release-notes

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Re: [Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-08-29 Thread Roman Bolshakov
Marcus, I think OS X way of handling the situation is better. There are
some reasons for that. I called some months ago to North-West
Telecom(one of the biggest internet providers in Saint Petersburg).
Customer support engineer said that they could remove the DNS zone only
for artificial persons. So the company protects own profit preventing
use of Active Directory for contracts with natural persons, because
price for artificial persons is higher usually. I said him(or her, I
didn't remember who it was) that the zone hindered for Ubuntu and Mac OS
users, but him(her) had nothing to say me. And the second advantage for
OS X way is current situation with torrent trackers. There are lots of
providers that introduced retracker.local domain with incorrect DNS
server settings. They set up whole .local zone instead of only
retracker.local. So the providers disturb peoples who even doesn't use
torrents.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-08-28 Thread Marcus Carlson
For information, this is how Mac OS X handles the situation;

From: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA20999?viewlocale=en_US
Note: If you have set up a private DNS server that resolves names in the 
.local domain, computers using Mac OS X 10.2 will not use the DNS server to 
resolve these names. This may result in unexpected failures to connect to 
hostnames defined by your server. You should use a different domain, such as 
.home, .office, or .lan for DNS on private networks.

They just ignore the .local domain in DNS - should we do the same? Or
just start it anyway and have avahi take precedence over dns in
nsswitch.conf?

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-08-07 Thread Stone age
For my ISP LC_ALL=C host -t soa local. does return Host local. not
found: 3(NXDOMAIN). But still I get the avahi complaint.

Figured out that before my ADSL router (a simple home device, Thomson
speedtouch 536) established connection to the ISP, the query returns
local has address 198.18.1.2. This address is reserved for testing in
RFC 2544. Perhaps the router developers would argue it's the avahi
script that should recognize it's not a legal IP address. In any case,
whichever way the avahi script tests, the DNS server radically changes a
little later. I guess the whole network service should wait until the
router is really ready.

This problem is basically due to the much improved boot time. Faster
isn't always better...

Setting AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 in /etc/default/avahi-daemon removes
the message, but in my case this file did not yet exist. Ubuntu 10.10
x64.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-07-22 Thread Lex Ross
The top three Russian ISP's (Golden Telecom, Beeline and Corbina) are
configured as shown below

$ host -t SOA local.
local has SOA record dns1.corbina.net. hostmaster.corbina.net. 1268639101 3600 
300 604800 3600

Does this indicate that ISP indeed uses local domain or is there a
problem with avahi detection method? And how is DNS supposed to work
when I have the following line in my /etc/nsswitch.conf by default

hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4

Shouldn't it put dns right after files instead, as suggested in bug
#80900 ?

This is on Ubuntu 10.10 x64

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-06-30 Thread Exterminans
I think we are talking about two different bugs: In some networks there
is actually a .local-domain defined, but there are also a lot of false
positives!

In /usr/lib/avahi/avahi-daemon-check-dns.sh line 58 is faulty:
if echo $OUT | egrep -vq 'has no|not found'; then

The host-command might return additional lines which contain debug-
messages with a trailing ;;  but those are not recognized by this
script and therby result in the shutdown of avahi-daemon.

Line 58 must be changed into the following to get rid of the false positives:
if echo $OUT | egrep -vq 'has no|not found'; then

The suggested solution with adding AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 will
disable the faulty check, but it does not solve the bug itself, even
worse it will cause avahi to enabled in networks where the local-domain
may be used by important services!

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-06-30 Thread Exterminans
Sorry, forgott to add the corrected line in the previous post:
if echo $OUT | egrep -vq 'has no|not found|^;; '; then

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-06-06 Thread andrewpmk
This problem still exists in Ubuntu 10.04. I cannot connect to the
Toronto Public Library free wifi because it redirects to the webpage
spyders.local, which displays the terms and conditions for using the
free wifi service. This works fine on Windows.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-05-28 Thread Daniel Loiacono
I use Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 64bits and this problem is present. Removing
Network-Manager and Installing Wicd resolve this issue for me. My
question is: where it is the difference between these two managers?

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-05-24 Thread Erik Quaeghebeur
Just as an extra confirmation: I got bitten by this bug today (Kubuntu
10.04 amd64).

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-05-24 Thread Toni Ruottu
I've seen it on Ubuntu 10.10 too.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-05-09 Thread Toni Ruottu
You might have a different problem. Rebooting never fixed this issue for
me, and it never broke my wifi.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-05-08 Thread fferreres
I have this avahi problem as well. I live in Mexico and do not use any
.local domain (I don't even connect to other computers, just to the
router). Nothing seems to decidedly solve this, and everyone that I have
showcased Ubuntu to (at least 50 people as I use it with my TV as set
top box) have clearly seen how only rebooting seems to solve it.

I am utterly tired of Avahi disabling my wifi link...makes Ubutntu look
so amateurish by not have a solution, not even a commitment to really
look into this.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-04-25 Thread rykel
I am running Ubuntu Lucid on M1 Home Broadband in Singapore.

I have this .local bug error message everytime I reconnect after a
disconnection.

If I have a disconnection, it takes a reboot of both my Speedtouch modem
and Linksys WRT54GL router to reconnect my PC to the internet.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-02-03 Thread Psy[H[]
I confirm what Mekk said: with running avahi-daemon I can not access local 
resources of my office by dns names. If i disable avahi-daemon, network works 
fine.
Ubuntu 9.10 with current upgrades, NM from network-manager/trunk ppa...

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-01-31 Thread Iarms76
** Package changed: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic) = firefox (Ubuntu Karmic)

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
** Package changed: firefox (Ubuntu) = avahi (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-01-28 Thread Mekk
Looks like the solution to this bug somehow affected me. Freshly
installed Ubuntu 9.10, DHCP network connection initialized by
networkmanager, and my firm uses .local domain names in their true DNS
server.

Until I stop avahi-daemon, in-organization DNS names fail to resolve.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2010-01-19 Thread altima
I have this bug in Ubuntu 9.10.

I believe it is somehow related to network-manager, and this is why:

I installed Ubuntu Minimal with gdm, but instead of installing network-manager, 
I installed wicd.
and avahi worked great!
but then I needed to set up broadband connection, and since wicd doesn't have 
the option, I replaced it with network-manager.

and at this very point avahi stopped working with the message about
.local.

getting back to wicd did not solve the problem. so the thing must be in
some config files that are being altered during a network-manager
installation.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-30 Thread GlenMH
Thanks Timo - your solution works perfectly, and is persistant after a
full reboot.

A virtual beer for you!

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-25 Thread GlenMH
The fix may have been released but it still hasn't solved the problem.
Both my Karmic machines are still giving the .local error.

I have 2 choices: the first is use OpenDNS settings in my router and then I 
don't have access to my networked drives via Samba. OR
Don't use OpenDNS, have a domain name in my router (which does not seem to make 
a difference), access my networked drives and then not be able to use my HP MFD 
which is also on the network.

Neither of these is ideal!

Any suggestions on how I can sort this out to get both bits working at
the same time?

Thanks!

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Just tested on live-CD that it's not fixed on karmic. On karmic,
/etc/default/avahi-daemon isn't simply created anymore, making it
actually more difficult to workaround this problem. But the /var/run
/avahi-daemon/disabled-for-unicast-local is still being created and
Avahi is disabled.

As usual, adding the avahi-daemon file with AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0
workarounds the problem.

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-22 Thread Stuart Bishop
Confirmed Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic).

The largest ISP in Thailand (True Internet) started redirecting failed
DNS lookups recently to search/ads pages including .local. They also
control most of the wifi hotspots in the country.

** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-14 Thread aamukahvi
I am sorry to inform you that this is still a problem In Karmic 9.10,
fresh install.

I get the notification every time the desktop is loaded.

** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
My understanding is that the released version of avahi in Ubuntu 9.10 no
longer behaves this way; marking this bug as fixed.

** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-10-23 Thread Chris_Z
@robbanl

Just create this file with gedit (gksudo gedit /etc/default/avahi-
daemon) and put inside:

   AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0

and after that start the service manually from the terminal:

  sudo service avahi-daemon start

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-10-22 Thread robbanl
This is still an issue for me with 9.10 Beta, i think it's very irritating to 
have the same error message present itself on each boot without helping out 
with a solution. These are the kind of problems that can never exist for the 
normal user, they wouldn't have a clue of what to do.
.
I tried to use the solution with editing the avahi-daemon in /etc/default but 
it isn't there in 9.10 beta,  please deal with this bug before the release, 
cause it's effecting a lot of people (in Sweden anyway).

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-10-22 Thread Magnus
True. This happens for at least the two largest ISPs in Sweden: Telia
and Bredbandsbolaget.

If I were to contact them, what could I say to make them understand the
problem?

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-10-17 Thread splattx_x
** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = splattx_x (fmanno)

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-10-17 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: avahi (Ubuntu Karmic)
 Assignee: splattx_x (fmanno) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Ancell
** Summary changed:

- [jaunty] regression with selected ISP:s: avahi-daemon disabled because there 
is a unicast .local domain
+ Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

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[Bug 327362] Re: Some ISPs have .local domain which disables avahi-daemon

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Ancell
This bug is closely related to bug 80900.

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