[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
** Package changed: kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) = kde-workspace (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: kde-workspace (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Summary changed: - auto-login won't work + auto-login should not work with encrypted home -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login should not work with encrypted home To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Hi Christian and all, I don't agree with you 100% but only 50%... I like to have the home encrypted, and I would like also to have also the autologin in my unique account I have on my pc. This is because I like that when I start it, all the programs can be loaded at the beginning. This is why 50% The other 50 (security part) I set always the autologin but ALSO the lock screen enabled. In this way, I have: - encrypted home - all my progs (skype, kopete, and so on) loaded when I log in - security enabled (I have to authenticate me to access the pc) Hope you understand what I mean :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
This is no bug, at least not at the position that you describe here. Autologin CAN not be possible when the $HOME is encrypted, as this would be nonsense in a security's POV. So there is a bug, yes, but it should be: 1. When setting up autologin (in systemsettings), KDE should check if that user has an enrypted $HOME dir, and if so, prevent from setting AutoLoginEnable to true. 2. If someone manually in /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager (as default from KDE) sets this to true, this script should not give out this cryptic message. Instead there should be a check in this script wether the dir is encrypted, and if so AND AutoLoginEnabled, return to kdm. tis would be a workaround tough. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I meant /usr/bin/startkde instead of x-session-manager which is a link to it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Eh, which is part of package kde-workspace-bin - so that should be filed there? Or changed here as package? Can anyone confirm this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
That's right, there should definitely be something to prevent you from enabling auto-login if home is encrypted. The way things are now, it's outright dangerous, for noobs especially. If you check the field, you end up with an unusable setup, unless you find out somehow As to whether or not this is a bug, when I initially reported this, I assumed that I had only LVM encryption, not an encrypted home dir. In a setup like that, it wouldn't compromise security to have autologin - because you can't even boot without knowing the passphrase. But since it turned out that I had unwittingly encrypted my home dir in ADDITION to the LVM encryption, I can't tell whether the bug actually exists in the form that I described in the original report. We'd need somebody with an LVM encrypted system without additional home dir encryption to test this. I don't know which package we should file this for unfortunately. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
whoops, cut short the first paragraph there - it should say, unless you find out where the config file is, what setting you have to edit, and how you even do that on a shell. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/368061/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Encypted homedir. Then auto-login -- same error. Just how to get rid of the auto-login without a new installation: In: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc you have to set AutoLoginEnable=false Then everything is working again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 Title: auto-login won't work -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Yup. I'm here for the same reason. Encrypted homedir. Chose auto-login. Now I get the same error message above. I understand the (valid) reasons) for this not working, but concur with the commenter above that the auto login feature should be greyed out with a note / tooltip explaining why. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I just tried the following LiveCD and the bug wasn't fixed: 5d77212e8b56cb6b6febc8429ec33425 lucid-desktop-amd64.iso -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Hi Auge, sorry for the delay: thanks for pointing that out! my home dir really seems to be encrypted in addition to the LVM thing. No idea how I ended up with this. This whole thing got a new quality after upgrading to Karmic. I went to check whether auto-login worked after the update, only to find that if I enabled auto-login, my home dir wouldn't decrypt anymore after booting. I had to drop to a root shell, and disable auto-login manually in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc .. totally messed up. Removing this configuration as you suggest seems a bit too tedious for me to try right away, but I eventually will. Thanks! -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
Martin, i had the same problem as you, until I foud out, that not only my whole system was encrypted, but the home directiory was encrypted twice. I think I pressed once the wrong button during Installation. However, I had to backup the home folder, deactivate encryption for home folder (Feature of Jaunty), go in rescue mode, del user, add new one, link it to admin group, and copy back the home folder. After that it worked. You can find out, if your home folder is encrypted, if df says, your home folder is in a folder named .private. Check it out. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I found a work around to this problem on a blog http://brunampm.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/problem-in-kstartupconfig4-on- debian/ It was a comment someone left below. I am new to Linux so take it with a grain of salt. The author of the comment suggests running chown -R username /home/username/.kde with username replaced with your username of course. I rebooted the system and the message is gone. Now this could only be masking a more serious issue, I don't know. Thoughts? -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
are bug 368061 and bug 367911 dupes? -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
if this is not a bug... is there some workaround? if there is only one user on board and the whole system is encrypted there is no need for this security step... thx in advance -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I can't follow the argument that somehow this isn't supposed to be a bug. First I can't see what sense it would make to design things this way. The auto-login doesn't get you around the encryption, so it's not a security hazard to enable it (at least not in any way bigger a hazard than on a non-encrypted system). And second, the fact that we get this kstartupconfig4 error message before being redirected to the login clearly shows that the effect is unintended and has been overlooked. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I found similar bugs related to GDM and encrypted home directory. Unfortunately it might not be a bug after all. Correct me if I'm wrong... Apparently for security reasons, it's mandatory to prompt for the user password to decrypt the home directory. Otherwise, that would render the purpose of encrypted home directory totally useless. So this probably is more of a wishlist entry than a bug: 1. Make clear on installation that using an encrypted home directory will prevent the use of the auto-login feature 2. Disable the auto-login option under system-settingslogin-managerconvenience when obviously it won't work Right now, it's certainly a great source of confusion to new users. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I installed Jaunty with the Use Entire disk - encrypted LVM option, so my entire disk is encrypted. I'm prompted for the ecryptfs pass right at the start, before boot. User pass and ecryptfs-pass are different things, right? After I've entered my pass to decrypt the disk, the system should act as any other, shouldn't it? -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26036078/Dependencies.txt -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
have the same bug. Customized and up-to-date Ubuntu 9.04. After I turned on auto-login in system-settingslogin- managerconvenience, I got this exact same message when kdm (I guess) starts: kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation. I just have to click Ok to continue to the login screen as it would if auto-login was not enabled. Maybe I should also add I use en encrypted home directory on ext4 partition. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
** Changed in: kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 368061] Re: auto-login won't work
I have the same problem. I use an encrypted home directory with ext3 without encrypted LVM. -- auto-login won't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368061 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
