[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 Title: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" To manage notifications about this

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

upstream closed the bug with that comment "I think this is pretty straightforward. OS X uses the same phrase." ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) => (unassigned) ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Invalid -- You received th

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

** Changed in: nautilus Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 Title: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" To manage notifications about this bug go to: ht

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

I agree with Todd. When you want to delete something you don't expect to want it back - otherwise you'd move it somewhere specific or rename it - when you delete an item, you want rid of it (even if your future self might want it back!). Also, isn't there an inconsistency with hitting the "Delete

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

Does anyone ever say this in an office setting: "Hey George, where'd you put the file I was looking at this morning?" "Oh, that one? I moved it to the trash. But I can restore it." No, of course not. That's stupid. If anyone said that I'd think they were an idiot. So why does my OS come off t

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

Just let the term be customized/changed then! -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

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[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

The only reason to use "Delete" is because users are familiar with it from other platforms, IMO. I don't think "Move to Trash" is awkward, it's just that it will add to Windows users' confusion when using Linux for the first time, and right now that's a bad thing. "Delete" isn't lying, either, bu

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

"Cut" operation is a metaphor and so is "Trash". Deletion much less so. -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

Deleting a file means removing it from filesystem, not moving it around. -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bug

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

"Delete" isn't lying, it's correct. Trash is just a name for the "undo" engine. The "Cut" operation in text editor isn't named "Move to the clipboard", right? -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

Since "Delete" is lying and "Move to trash" is correct, but awkward, how about something else? *Trash (it) *Discard *Put (file/it) in trash *Throw away -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubun

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

If "Move to Trash" is changed to "Delete" (which, as I stated above, it shouldn't be), PLEASE make this a changeable text via gconf. That way those of us who have users that do understand the distinction between "delete" and "move to trash" don't have to deal with an unintuitive and inconsistent i

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

I'm in favor of the solution presented by post #7. The solution is not to change the name (delete isn't a whole lot easier to see, in my experience) but to fix the context menu. Clearing out cruft and moving "Move to trash" to the bottom of the list gets my vote. -- Non-intuitive term "Move to

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

There are two obvious choices: 1) Use "Move to Trash". This will confuse some users initially, and therefore cause a bad first impression. However, regular Ubuntu users will be more likely to understand what deletion actually does. 2) Use "Delete". Users used to Windows will have an easier tim

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

In the original usability@ mailing list thread, I cited this ridiculousness from Microsoft, and it bears repeating: "When you delete a file or folder, the file or folder is not deleted right away." Whatever we do, it should

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

> I don't believe it would be the correct decision > in this case to "do what Windows does Well, in fact, 'Delete' in Windows *actually* means 'Move to trash', because that is what is does. If we take it this way, we could say that only Windows is not intuitive (not describing what it actually do

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

@ Aryeh Gregor Mac OS uses "Move to Trash" I don't believe it would be the correct decision in this case to "do what Windows does". This is just one of those things where users have been trained to do it a weird way. I'd argue that people coming from a Mac would say "oh noes why will it delet

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

I have a friend who uses a Linux computer occasionally, and he complained it wasn't very usable. I asked him for an example, and he said that when he wanted to delete a file, he right-clicked and couldn't find any option to do it. He's not very computer-savvy and didn't think of trying other ways

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

Twisted Lincoln, Inc.: Ad. 1. Default installation contains the trash in a panel, so that should do the "teaching" stuff, but... I'm pretty sure that Windows has a recycle bin too! And 99% of Windows users is familiar with a concept :) Ad. 2. I'm not good in English, but since I haven't seen an e

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

I totally disagree. First off, there are are good number of people in the Windows world that think "delete" means "gone forever." I've seen quite a few people that have no idea what the recycle bin does, and are shocked to find their files are still there. We don't want to have the same issues h

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

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[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

This is certainly worth discussing. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Confirmed -- Non-intuitive term "Move to trash" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-

[Bug 388656] Re: Non-intuitive term "Move to trash"

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