[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
upstream now has the patch to improve the notification strings. The link bzr branch includes the patch. Feel free to grab it if anyone needs it. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Triaged ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Assignee: Scott Howard (showard314) = (unassigned) -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Branch unlinked: lp:~showard314/gnome-power/concise-notify-osd ** Branch linked: lp:~showard314/gnome-power/concise-notify-osd -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
The icons have to come from the application, though. We will just need a ubuntu patch for g-p-m. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Spec updated. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD?action=diffrev2=172rev1=170 -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = round-5 -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Adding the notify-osd task due to the latest notify-osd specs. ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Now that the specs are updated Bug #404525 would be a duplicate of this? [its a report to display notification of the power status , which was previously disabled . But now that this is being fixed , its almost a dup] ** Also affects: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
The Notify OSD spec covers changes to other software desired for compatibility with Notify OSD. No changes are needed to Notify OSD itself to fix this bug. ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Thanks to mac_v for correcting me: since Notify OSD uses custom icons for volume, brightness, and wireless, it makes sense that Notify OSD should use custom icons for battery charge too. ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
ppa updated, the string patch should be complete now. I'll test it for a couple more days before sending upstream. Here are the overall changes: Battery charged: title = Battery Charged message = NONE (message used to be: Your laptop battery is now fully charged) todo: change title from battery charged - battery fully charged Battery discharging (actually removed in Ubuntu, but in the upstream version): title =Battery Discharging message = The AC power has been unplugged. (message used to be The AC power has been unplugged. The system is now using battery power.) Critical and Low battery warnings: If you have no peripheral batteries (pda, phone, kb, mouse, UPS): title = Battery low if you have peripherals: title = Laptop battery low message = 25 minutes remaining or in the case of critical battery message = 25 minutes until shutdown (old message showed percentage remaining and had the warning ...if the AC is not connected.) (Also removed the sentence You have approximately 25 minutes of remaining battery life (percent%). since the battery life remaining and % *beyond* the critical shutdown point doesn't matter since your computer will shutdown before you even see it.) Mouse over notification bubbles: title = NOTHING (used to be nondescript Power Information) When announcing the battery is full, it now does not show the percentage (since it would be redundant). The other notifications should stay verbose since GPM doesn't just manage laptop batteries. This way you can see the power status of every peripheral in your system at once by mousing over the applet. Any comments regarding these changes? Try to plug in phones/pdas and make sure it's working properly. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
new ppa is up: https://launchpad.net/~showard314/+archive/ppa Pretty much finalized low and critical battery notifications: from the todo - [DONE] write a check to see if any other battery device peripherals(PDA, phone, wireless mouse/kb, UPS) exist on the system, if they do the title should remain Laptop battery low - [WON'T DO] we might need to make the message 25 minutes remaining (10%) since the % is more accurate than the time -- if the battery is low/critically low, all that matters is the amount of time left, not the % left - so we don't need to tell users %. Same with shut down in X minutes, you have Y minutes remaining They don't need to know how much battery is left (Y) is their computer will be turned off in X minutes. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Scott: Just tested your ppa, there are some problems, -the panel icon used doesnt change with the theme, it uses *only* the gpm hicolor icons -the brightness notifications are now using the old notifications-daemon rather than notify-osd. Also i dont know if this has been removed from gpm or just missing from the ppa, there is No on battery tab in the power preferences. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Ah... Found the error, themes label the icons for *panels* , /gpm-primary-***-charging.svg /gpm-primary-***.svg Seems you have it coded to use the gpm-battery-* , [i had suggested using the gpm-battery-* for the notifications only] -Icons are not used in the power notifications. -The notification for battery full uses the gtk-dialog-info icon. it needs to use the battery full icon.[or maybe battery-full-charging icon] -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Mac Scott is writing a first patch without the notification-* icons for inclusion upstream. The problem with brightness notifications comes from global breakage of the new g-p-m :P -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
I'm just working on the strings and not touching the icons yet. This is because the strings patch will go upstream and the icons/notify-osd patch should be done within Ubuntu. I'm getting close to finishing it and sending it upstream. Ubuntu used to have it's own notify-osd patch, but Martin Pitt has disabled the notify-osd patch for GPM (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/406396) since upstream has changed how they handle notifications. The notify-osd patch needs to be rewritten, see bug #406396. Would either of you be able to work on that side of it? I took a stab at it here: bug 390669, but that patch was written against 2.27.1, I updated it to 2.27.2, and soon we will have 2.27.3. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Steve Dodiersidnio...@gmail.com wrote: @Mac Scott is writing a first patch without the notification-* icons for inclusion upstream. The problem with brightness notifications comes from global breakage of the new g-p-m :P -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Gnome Powermanager: Confirmed Status in “gnome-power-manager” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager Hello, I'm writing this feature request because I believe power notifications can be greatly improved by being simplified to the strict necessary. I began a discussion about this subject, that you can find on the Ayatana ML ( https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00146.html ), and I ended up drafting new triggered and non-triggered notifications, as follows (preview of the result here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdaiXXcv8w ) : Icon info Title Power information Body Computer is running on battery power Laptop battery 1 hour 45 minutes remaining (72.0%) Becomes Icon notification-battery-070 Title 1:45 hours remaining I'll include a file (the shell script used for the video above) with many more examples, and proposals of improvement for the battery low notifications too. The icons are created and uploaded into the Human icon theme. If needed, they can be put in notify-osd. They basically convey the % left and plugged / not plugged information to make the text part lighter (images can hold much more meaning than words in some cases). Obviously I think this is implementable only as an Ubuntu patch (at least till the notification-* icons get some recognition outside of notify-osd / ubuntu), but I still think it's worth a try as it makes notifications _really_ easier to read. Voilà. If you need any other information about this feature request, please let me know ASAP. I really hope this can be done for Karmic. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Oh... OK. Since i'v upgraded to Karmic I'v been running only on AC mains, so i guess i didnt notice that change in the *panel* icons. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Icon labels need *not* be requested, Gnome power manager already recognizes these 15 icons: [1] The icon change can be done in the notify-osd , [ex: right now, the notify-osd wireless connect notification uses the notification-network-wireless-full.svg , whereas the signal sent by the nm-manager is to use nm-device-wireless , notify-osd changes the icon] similar change for gpm can be done in the notify-osd side. There are already 15icons in gpm already ,We only need the 7 more icons , using the gpm label.That should be an easy request. Or if gpm declines the request to have the 10,30,50,70,90 status icons we could just use these 15 in the gnome package but have more increments in the ubuntu package [1] /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-ac-adapter.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-000.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-000-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-020.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-020-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-040.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-040-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-060.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-060-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-080.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-080-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-100.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-100-charging.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-charged.svg /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-battery-empty.svg -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Martin Notify-osd doesn't allow theming yet, but even if it did (i hope it will for karmic), it's better to limitate to one color (grey) than allowing every kind of colors, which would cause more contrast / different contrasts in the bubbles and be more prone to grab the user's focus (which we want to avoid for non critical notifications). @Richard If the remaining time information isn't accurate, how will the percentage one be more accurate than it ? :/ @Scott I'll test the PPA as soon as I boot on Karmic. @Mac No, they're not the same icons :) gpm-battery are planned for ~24px in panels with colours. notification-battery icons are planned for ~40/48px in black bubbles without colours. But the icons could be only in Ubuntu if gnome doesn't want them till we can make them standard in fd.o -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Steve Dodier : The gpm-* *icons are all 48px* in the scalable folder these can be used, they have separate icons for panel. The icons are in all sizes[16,22,24,32,48] we dont have to use them , we use the icons for notifications from the human theme[that change can be done in the notify-osd] , gnome can use these gpm icons in their notification-daemon , they would prefer to have color icons. Doing it this way[changing icons in notify-osd], we dont have to make constant changes in gpm-Ubuntu, that way gnome-power-manager can be maintained upstream itself. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Oh ok, I misunderstood you, sorry. Indeed, G-p-m could use the gpm icons for this since it's likely that the notification-* icons can't be used, and we can push ours locally. Richard, is it possible to write a simple function returning the correct icon with, as parameters : * guint percent_left * gboolean plugged And possibly another parameter if you make a distinction between different types of batteries for each icon ? This would considerably simplify the maintenance of the ubuntu-side patch till someone makes the effort of getting the icons in freedesktop.org. @Martin, Scott I'm not much of a fan of the % left information, as it is indeed redundant with the time left information and can be transferred to the icon in most cases. Isn't it possible in GTK+ to specify an alternative text to use if an icon is missing ? Is it possible, from g-p-m, to know whether the user uses a11y technologies, and whether or not they allow rendering of images ? I think such an infrastructure should exist. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Mac Steve thanks for working out the icons. I saw the icons in the source code and am not familiar with notify-osd, so your help on this is great. Let me know if there is anything you need in the code to make it work (I'm working on the upstream project). @ Steve The percentages are more accurate since devicekit-power only receives percentage information from the battery. GPM then does a quick calculation based on past history of the battery to find how much time is left. If batteries are broken or old, the time information can be grossly inaccurate. Also, I believe the function you request (returning the correct icon with, as parameters: * guint percent_left * gboolean plugged) exists and is currently in use with gnome-power-manager. With the patched version, you may see it working since I believe Martin disabled the notify-osd patches in it. The function is in: src/gpm-devicekit.c http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-power/trunk/annotate/head%3A/src/gpm-devicekit.c [or] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-power-manager/tree/src/gpm-devicekit.c function name: gpm_devicekit_get_object_icon [this file name is in the format of comment #16] Returns: filename as a gchar Takes one argument (DkpDevice) [DkpDevice is laptop battery, phone battery, wireless mouse battery, etc.] The function will check the battery for it's percentage and return with the correct filename. In that case, we can make the argument to drop the % since it is already included in the battery icon. And if they really want to see it, a user can open power preferences. When it comes to notifications, only the most important information should be shown - which is the time remaining. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Steve Dodier [2009-07-29 22:52 -]: I am not sure that they would like the icons, as they're notification-* icons that afaik only exist in Ubuntu's Human theme right now. Replacing the current icons isn't possible either as these are specially designed for notifications (ie. color only for icons meant to be used in critical notifications, otherwise grey-scale, and not designed for use in a panel at all). Would it be totally bad to use another icon color theme with notify-osd? Most colors should go along well with the dark gray background? For the text comprehensibility in case of a lack of icon, every case should be ok except maybe the trigger of XF86Power while plugged, since one would not know how filled his/her battery is at the moment, only how long till it is full. Is it possible to easily detect the presence of an icon ? Yes, but that wasn't my only concern. If you use a11y technologies, and a blind person is in front of the computer, you do have the icon, but it's not of any value to the user. The other texts were self-contained, can't we just make this last string, too? -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Thanks for the input Martin. I sent this upstream: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590259 . Steve, could you add yourself to the cc: list for that one? ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #590259 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590259 ** Also affects: gnome-power via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590259 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Changed in: gnome-power Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
From Richard Hughes, author of GPM, in response to our bug request: For example, right now GPM gives the following notification: title = Power Information message = Laptop battery fully charged (100%). Provides 2 hours 5 minutes battery runtime. Can be made: title = Battery full message = 2 hours 5 minutes battery runtime available Sure, agreed. Some more information: 1) Usually the strings are constructed as follows: DEVICE NAME event time. ( percentage ) DEVICE NAME is chosen to be the verbose Laptop battery to distinguish between phone, keyboard, laptop, etc. However, on systems without any peripherals, it could be just Battery. Additionally, even systmes with peripherals Battery would be inferred to mean Laptop battery, so it may not be necessary. No, I just had battery there before, and I got bugs about _which_ battery it was referring to... If there are no other battery type devices present, I guess this makes sense. 2) having both time and ( percentage ) may be redundant. Only if the time is accurate -- which on some systems it's not. 3) the title Power Information could be dropped for something more descriptive for each event (such as Battery full or AC unplugged) I agree with this. On launchpad I started developing a mock-up patch to test some of these ideas to get user feedback when Martin Pitt suggested we send this upstream since we would also need translation support and feedback from GNOME. Totally, there's no point developing this in sekret just for Ubuntu. The specification also includes new icons, which is discussed on both the ML and launchpad site. I think the new icons could be harder to swallow -- but you could raise this topic on desktop development list and see what the feedback is. Anyway, patches welcomed with open arms. Please do patches against git master. Thanks. Richard. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
@Scott Howard : Could you take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/404525 Its somewhat similar , all it needs it a second *simultaneous* notification sending the info about the battery / AC state -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
The first package is ready for testing. This is my first time packaging, patching, using ppas, and bzr - so please bear with the extra commits and ppa versions while I figured out how to actually upload the files! The ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~showard314/+archive/ppa Could you please test it and check out why descriptions below (I'm running ~ppa3 now but don't have a good enough laptop with me to test it on)? Known bug: if you use this version with a latpop that has UPS, phone, wireless keyboard/mouse, or PDA attached to it, the peripheral battery information will be notified just as battery and not phone battery (this has to be fixed) Also, if anyone knows quick ways to improve this or wants to work on the TO DOs below, please grab the bzr branch and work on the 09-concise- notification-osd patch! Changes: LOW BATTERY [old] title = Laptop battery low message = You have approximately 25 minutes of remaining battery life (10%) [new] title = Battery low message = 25 minutes remaining [TO DO] -write a check to see if any other battery device peripherals(PDA, phone, wireless mouse/kb, UPS) exist on the system, if they do the title should remain Laptop battery low (does anyone know how to do that off the top of their head? I can figure it out but it may take a while...) - we might need to make the message 25 minutes remaining (10%) since the % is more accurate than the time CRITICALLY LOW BATTERY [old] title = Laptop battery critically low message = You have approximately 25 minutes of remaining battery life (10%). This computer will EVENT in 15 minutes if the AC is not connected. [new] title = Battery critically low message = This computer will EVENT in 15 minutes. [TO DO] -write a check to see if any other device peripherals exist on the system, if they do the title should remain Laptop battery critically low to distinguish between the laptop battery and peripheral batteries - we might need to make the message This computer will EVENT in 15 minutes if the AC is not connected. to explicitly say what the alternative is (or is this intuitive?) BATTERY FULL [old] title = Power Information message = Laptop battery fully charged (100%). Provides 2 hours 5 minutes of runtime. [new] title = Power Information message = Battery is full. Provides 2 hours 5 minutes runtime. [TO DO] - The Power Information title comes from one function, and the description string comes from another function. We would have to add a way to change the title depending on the event. Ideally the title = Battery full and the message = Provides 2 hours 5 minutes of runtime - correct the bug where all batteries are labelled as battery. this can be fixed by defining the string type_desc to be Battery if there are no peripherals and Laptop battery if there are peripherals. BATTERY DISCHARGING [old] title = Power Information message = Laptop battery 2 hours 5 minutes remaining (85%). [new] title = Power Information message = 2 hours 5 minutes remaining. [TO DO] - The Power Information title comes from one function, and the description string comes from another function. We would have to add a way to change the title depending on the event. Ideally the title = 2 hours 5 minutes remaining - correct the bug where all batteries are labelled as battery. this can be fixed by defining the string type_desc to be Battery if there are no peripherals and Laptop battery if there are peripherals. - again we may need to keep the percentage information. BATTERY CHARGING [old] title = Power Information message = Laptop battery 2 hours 5 minutes until charged (85%). Provides 2 hours 5 minutes battery runtime [new] title = Power Information message = 2 hours 5 minutes until charged. Provides 2 hours 5 minutes battery runtime. [TO DO] - The Power Information title comes from one function, and the description string comes from another function. We would have to add a way to change the title depending on the event. Ideally the title = 2 hours 5 minutes remaining - We may need to describe what has 2 hours 5 minutes until charged, in which case we can define type_desc to be Battery (or ) in systems with no peripherals and Laptop battery in others. - again we may need to keep the percentage information. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
I really like the proposal, just watched the video. I suggest to open a bug at bugzilla.gnome.org to discuss these string changes; Richard is amazlingly responsive there, and translation-wise we absolutely need to get them upstream. BTW, do we need the new icons to be approved by GNOME first? gnome- power-manager already ships its own icons, so it would just be about adding a few? However, please do take care to make the text comprehensible without icons, to not ruin accessibility. The texts I saw in the video were fine, just pointing it out to keep it in mind. Thanks for working on this! -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
I am not sure that they would like the icons, as they're notification-* icons that afaik only exist in Ubuntu's Human theme right now. Replacing the current icons isn't possible either as these are specially designed for notifications (ie. color only for icons meant to be used in critical notifications, otherwise grey-scale, and not designed for use in a panel at all). For the text comprehensibility in case of a lack of icon, every case should be ok except maybe the trigger of XF86Power while plugged, since one would not know how filled his/her battery is at the moment, only how long till it is full. Is it possible to easily detect the presence of an icon ? If they are absent, maybe g-p-m could be (a little) more verbose in some cases. If this isn't possible, the only other option would be to add a setting for more verbose notifications (which I think is not great), or make them more verbose by default (which I think isn't very great either). I really don't know anyone in upstream GNOME, and they might be more receptive to someone they already know. ;) -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Scott Howard (showard314) -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Branch linked: lp:~showard314/gnome-power/concise-notify-osd -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Thanks, I'm going to start working on this in two phases, first the text then the icons. This is because I think we may be able to get the text approved upstream in GPM, but the icons may be harder to get approved in GNOME. I'll post the PPA and branch for the text changes when I get to it. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Steve Dodiersidnio...@gmail.com wrote: I think I forgot to mention that there also are -plugged icons (they're not in the video). The complete list of icons is : notification-battery-000 notification-battery-000-plugged notification-battery-010 notification-battery-010-plugged [...] notification-battery-090 notification-battery-090-plugged notification-battery-100 notification-battery-100-plugged -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “gnome-power-manager” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager Hello, I'm writing this feature request because I believe power notifications can be greatly improved by being simplified to the strict necessary. I began a discussion about this subject, that you can find on the Ayatana ML ( https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00146.html ), and I ended up drafting new triggered and non-triggered notifications, as follows (preview of the result here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdaiXXcv8w ) : Icon info Title Power information Body Computer is running on battery power Laptop battery 1 hour 45 minutes remaining (72.0%) Becomes Icon notification-battery-070 Title 1:45 hours remaining I'll include a file (the shell script used for the video above) with many more examples, and proposals of improvement for the battery low notifications too. The icons are created and uploaded into the Human icon theme. If needed, they can be put in notify-osd. They basically convey the % left and plugged / not plugged information to make the text part lighter (images can hold much more meaning than words in some cases). Obviously I think this is implementable only as an Ubuntu patch (at least till the notification-* icons get some recognition outside of notify-osd / ubuntu), but I still think it's worth a try as it makes notifications _really_ easier to read. Voilà. If you need any other information about this feature request, please let me know ASAP. I really hope this can be done for Karmic. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Thanks. Indeed the icons are going to be a bit tough for upstream :) -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
I think I forgot to mention that there also are -plugged icons (they're not in the video). The complete list of icons is : notification-battery-000 notification-battery-000-plugged notification-battery-010 notification-battery-010-plugged [...] notification-battery-090 notification-battery-090-plugged notification-battery-100 notification-battery-100-plugged -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Great presentation and idea. I can see on the mailing list that there is lots of support and feedback for this proposal. I'm marking as triaged/wishlist. Steve, are you working on the patch? If not I'll try to get a developer to look at this (or I'd take a crack at it). ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Tags added: bitesize -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
I would really love someone to take care of it, i currently have a few more important things to work on and i fear i won't be able to produce a decent patch for it before a while. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
No problem, I'll try to find someone or take care of it. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Steve Dodiersidnio...@gmail.com wrote: I would really love someone to take care of it, i currently have a few more important things to work on and i fear i won't be able to produce a decent patch for it before a while. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “gnome-power-manager” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager Hello, I'm writing this feature request because I believe power notifications can be greatly improved by being simplified to the strict necessary. I began a discussion about this subject, that you can find on the Ayatana ML ( https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00146.html ), and I ended up drafting new triggered and non-triggered notifications, as follows (preview of the result here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdaiXXcv8w ) : Icon info Title Power information Body Computer is running on battery power Laptop battery 1 hour 45 minutes remaining (72.0%) Becomes Icon notification-battery-070 Title 1:45 hours remaining I'll include a file (the shell script used for the video above) with many more examples, and proposals of improvement for the battery low notifications too. The icons are created and uploaded into the Human icon theme. If needed, they can be put in notify-osd. They basically convey the % left and plugged / not plugged information to make the text part lighter (images can hold much more meaning than words in some cases). Obviously I think this is implementable only as an Ubuntu patch (at least till the notification-* icons get some recognition outside of notify-osd / ubuntu), but I still think it's worth a try as it makes notifications _really_ easier to read. Voilà. If you need any other information about this feature request, please let me know ASAP. I really hope this can be done for Karmic. -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
Thanks in advance then :) -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 399492] Re: Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications
** Attachment added: File containing proposals for each current notification http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29024091/show-proposal.sh -- Feature request : Possible improvements for notifications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399492 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
