[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2015-07-29 Thread Stefan Bader
>From my experience I think there was a time when libvirt would only allow the use of networks defined with libvirt. Nowadays (at least starting with Trusty/12.04) it is picking up and allowing the use of network interfaces outside the control of libvirt. So I am not sure this is still in need. No

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2015-07-29 Thread Chris J Arges
** Changed in: libvirt (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/865515 Title: virtual machines should not have nat on servers To manage notifications

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-12 Thread Serge Hallyn
> eth0 should be bridged If anything I'd prefer to go the debian route and, for servers only, not set up any network at all. I don't care to support "if desktop, NAT. If server, if there is only eth0; bridge; otherwise, do nothing." I'm not against shipping a hand-run script which runs netcf to

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Serge Hallyn writes ("[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers"): > How would you suggest configuring out of the box on install for a > server? eth0 should be bridged. Specifically, for a vm host, the primary network interface (by which I mean the

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-12 Thread Serge Hallyn
How would you suggest configuring out of the box on install for a server? I don't believe it is reasonable to assume we can bridge eth0 and have that be the right thing to do. Perhaps we could find the nic for the default route, but that could be fragile especially in esoteric setups. Also, addin

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Serge Hallyn writes ("[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers"): > Agreed the default isn't ideal for servers, but I'm not convinced there > is a good wya to set up a works-everywhere ideal solution for servers. > I would assume that any site

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-11 Thread Serge Hallyn
(The above question is seeking advice from anyone willing to comment - thanks) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/865515 Title: virtual machines should not have nat on servers To manage

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-12-11 Thread Serge Hallyn
Agreed the default isn't ideal for servers, but I'm not convinced there is a good wya to set up a works-everywhere ideal solution for servers. I would assume that any site which cares enough about the network performance to object to a NATed bridge would have serveral NICs, some perhaps bonded - an

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: libvirt (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/865515 Title: vir

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-04 Thread Jamie Strandboge
** Changed in: libvirt (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/865515 Title: virtual machines should not have nat on servers To manage notifications

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-04 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I agree the default of nat is appropriate for desktops and I feel quite strongly it should not change there. The default for servers is probably better as non-nat (though this could be debated), as this bug suggests. However having different behavior depending on the type of system it is would like

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Dave Walker writes ("[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers"): > @Ian, If i understand the bug report correctly, this would seem to be a > generic bug regarding the default networking option setup as part of > libvirt. If this is the case, I agree it&

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-03 Thread Dave Walker
@Ian, If i understand the bug report correctly, this would seem to be a generic bug regarding the default networking option setup as part of libvirt. If this is the case, I agree it's not a great ideal for servers - but also not an unreasonable default for the platform as a whole use case. The de

[Bug 865515] Re: virtual machines should not have nat on servers

2011-10-03 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Ian, thanks for the bug report. I happen to be subscribed to the ubuntu-virt package for mostly historical reasons, though I'm minimally involved in it today. I have, however, subscribed Scott Moser and Serge Hallyn, who are now more or less the maintainers of this functionality. I'll leave it t