[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2013-03-01 Thread rbleeker
Even though this is an old discussion, I would still like to add a few things to it. I'm a systems administrator and I believe most of my kind would agree with me when I say that installing binaries in a user folder is bad practice in general. I work in an organization where Dropbox is used by a

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-10-24 Thread mlaverdiere
As a normal user ans usually happy camper, I came across this report when wondering what was the difference between installing Dropbox from Ubuntu repositories (nautilus-dropbox package) than from the package available on Dropbox website/repository. Now that I understand, I do share many of the

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-10-23 Thread Alfred Zhu
I got the messags saying that Dropbox was running from an unsupported location after installed nautilus-dropbox from ubuntu repository. I clicked Don't ask again and it seems that Dropbox was running as intended. I just want to make sure Dropbox really works properly if I ignored the message. To

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-10-23 Thread Amr Ibrahim
On 23/10/12 21:05, Alfred Zhu wrote: I got the messags saying that Dropbox was running from an unsupported location after installed nautilus-dropbox from ubuntu repository. I clicked Don't ask again and it seems that Dropbox was running as intended. I just want to make sure Dropbox really

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-20 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
Hi Raphael, thanks for bringing us system-wide installation of dropbox! But isn't the description of nautilus-dropbox, Dropbox integration for Nautilus, misleading? Somehow, Downloads non-free binary blob from somewhere could be mentioned. I think the downloader functionality should be split out

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-20 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
Lol I just tested the nautilus-dropbox solution for a new LTSP user. Screenshot shows what I got. @David Euresti: So the result of the fruitless discussion is that you included a unsupported location nag screen ( see also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679963 ). ** Bug watch

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-20 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Jakob Unterwurzacher wrote: But isn't the description of nautilus-dropbox, Dropbox integration for Nautilus, misleading? Somehow, Downloads non-free binary blob from somewhere could be mentioned. It's in the full description: Description: Dropbox integration for

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012, Paul Abrahams wrote: pwa@pwa-K60IJ:~$ dropbox start -i Starting Dropbox... Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/ Error: Trouble connecting to Dropbox servers. Maybe your internet

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Abrahams
To clarify: the download does work and the proxy complaint is almost certainly bogus. I'm not using a proxy (systems settings confirms that). Here's the output you asked for: pwa@pwa-K60IJ:~$ env SSH_AGENT_PID=23805 KDE_MULTIHEAD=false DM_CONTROL=/var/run/xdmctl SHELL=/bin/bash TERM=xterm

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Abrahams
An afterthought: the most appropriate place for me to deal with my Dropbox problems would have been the Dropbox forums, but unfortunately they are down for renovation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Abrahams
Another afterthought: I tried installing the new package you provided. It seems to work, although it needs to be started with dropbox -i start, not dropboxd. I need to do some other fiddling before I can be entirely sure. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Abrahams
Update: the dropboxd command from the new package doesn't work after all. It simply hangs. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/909488 Title: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Abrahams
Update: dropboxd does work after all. The problem was that I hadn't uninstalled my previous working version of Dropbox. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/909488 Title: nautilus-dropbox

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Abrahams
I'm a Dropbox user. Dropbox worked fine for me under 11.10; on this machine it does not work under 12.04. I tried the procedure recommended by Dropbox: cd ~ wget -O - https://www.dropbox.com/download?plat=lnx.x86_64; | tar xzf - ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd And I soon got this: pwa@pwa-K60IJ:~$

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Abrahams
I forgot to mention: on a different machine, also running 12.04, I see that the dropbox package is installed and the nautilus-dropbox package is not installed. And on that machine, Dropbox works. However, I cannot determine where that dropbox package came from. -- You received this bug

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Abrahams
Update: I've gotten Dropbox working by downloading it from the website and using the Deb installer (which, conveniently, is offered by default). So the situation is this, it seems. There are three possible ways to install Dropbox: 1. Download it from the Dropbox website and install it with

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-06-06 Thread Mike
Just another random Ubuntu user here and I agree with Allan. I like DropBox and use it on five devices, but since the update issue above hasn't been sorted out it really doesn't belong in the repos. Keeping broken software in the software center is silly. Let the DropBox company continue handle

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Pratt
Hi. I'm just a random Ubuntu user who is also a DropBox user. I intsalled the package from the Ubuntu repo, got the running from an unsupported location message, and found this bug report. As I read this thread, the Dropbox company position is that it's better not to have the package in the

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-04-16 Thread David Euresti
Is there a final decision on this? What are the next steps? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/909488 Title: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-04-05 Thread Bernat
Ok, I see your point now, thanks. I know the non-free binaries are already a security problem, but I think it's even riskier having non- free software that installs binaries in our home and upgrades itself without notice. I would expect packagers to make it the least insecure possible, lessenning

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-04-04 Thread Bernat
I don't see what's different in nautilus-dropbox compared to other packages. It seems like upstream wants to open a potential security hole in our Ubuntu systems. I think people should already know Ubuntu packages are supported by the Ubuntu community, not by upstream, so where's the confussion.

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
I've chosen to trust the Ubuntu community, not Dropbox, I wouldn't expect Ubuntu packages to be updated by upstream authors. What's different here? I'm sorry, but if you believe that having dropbox packages in the Ubuntu archive insulates you from having to trust dropbox, then you are very

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-04-03 Thread David Euresti
Hey guys, We provide a single package because that's the easiest thing for our users. They don't have to think about which version of Ubuntu is running or anything else. We have fixed the package to work from all version from 8.04 to 11.10 even through different versions of GNOME. Obviously

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-03-08 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
I also want to highlight that Dropbox (the company) provides a single package and that it doesn't work across all Ubuntu releases (due to the different GNOME versions and changes at the nautilus level). So there's real value in having our own nautilus-dropbox that works with each corresponding

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-03-06 Thread Jorge O. Castro
Raphael, I don't understand how working around upstream's updater is good for users here. I don't /want/ to remember to type dropbox update, they already do that for me. Why do we even need a wrapper if Dropbox is accepting responsibility for the user's installation? The user has already made

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Raphaël, At Jorge's request, I've had a look at the nautilus-dropbox package in precise. There seem to be two main differences between the upstream package and the one included in precise. - The precise package stores dropboxd in a central location instead of keeping one copy per user.

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-03-06 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: - The precise package stores dropboxd in a central location instead of keeping one copy per user. This is in principle the preferred way to do so in the distribution, but has the side effect that users who don't have admin privileges are unable

Re: [Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-03-06 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012, Jorge O. Castro wrote: Why do we even need a wrapper if Dropbox is accepting responsibility for the user's installation? Even the upstream package is only a wrapper. They do not provide a package that directly contains their dropboxd daemon. The user has already made the

[Bug 909488] Re: nautilus-dropbox forbids dropbox's non-free binaries to replace themselves by properly installing dropbox system-wide

2012-01-30 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
For the record, just like any wrapper, the user can force an update/re- installation at any point of time with dropbox update. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/909488 Title: