[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Marat Khalili]

Was just hit by this bug after `apt install lxde` in LXC container under
16.04 server. Considering that it installed tons of other stuff (more
than 1GB) it was just shock to find out that logout is missing. How is
it even optional, if red button in the south east corner invokes it? Why
is it still not fixed in LTS?

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package lxsession - 0.5.3-1ubuntu1

---
lxsession (0.5.3-1ubuntu1) zesty; urgency=medium

  * Re-sync with Debian. Ubuntu remaining changes :
  * debian/control:
   - Keep built-in support, since qt session use lxqt-session.
   - Add Replaces: lxsession-data (<< 0.5.3-1) for lxsession.

lxsession (0.5.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  [ Julien Lavergne ]
  * Stop building built-in support, for easy integration with qt session.

  [ Andriy Grytsenko ]
  * Rebuild all .c from .vala to be up to date.
  * Changing Maintainer e-mail to Alioth based one.
  * Using https for VCS fields in debian/control file.
  * Using dh-autoreconf instead of autotools-dev.
  * Adding dependency on policykit-1 (Closes: #773126, #773480, #814915).
  * Replacing Provides policykit-1-gnome with polkit-1-auth-agent
(Closes: #826490, #842267).
  * Removing override_dh_strip rule from debian/rules.
  * Removing upower (<< 0.99) from Depends, it's not available anymore.
  * Merging upstream version 0.5.3.
  * Adding libunique-dev to Build-Depends.
  * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.8.
  * Adding laptop-detect to Depends on lxsession as it tries to run that
utility.
  * Updating lxsession-xsettings in lxsession.install, it was moved.
  * Removing 01-no-dup-polkit.patch, it's included by upstream.
  * Removing 02-fix-db-update.patch, it's included by upstream.
  * Enabling hardening (set DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS indebian/rules).
  * Recommend lxde-session instead of lxde-common.
  * Don't recommend openbox, lxde-session will depend on it instead.
  * Splitting out lxsession-data package.
  * Splitting out lxsession-edit package.
  * Splitting out lxpolkit package.
  * Splitting out lxlock package.
  * Split out lxsession-logout package. It can be used independently
(LP: #1423326).
  * Split out lxsession-default-apps package, it may be optional.
  * Splitting out lxde-settings-daemon package, lxsession does not need it
but it can be used independently instead.
  * Adding manual pages coming with package to install (Closes: #722037).
  * Adding proper dependency from lxlock to supported screen lockers
(Closes: #780024).

 -- Julien Lavergne   Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:51:29 +0100

** Changed in: lxsession (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Mikalai]

JFYI: logout was working fine with 15.x release, but it seems the
package was automatically uninstalled during upgrade to 16.x. Installing
logout back through apt fixed the issue, but IMHO that is not a smooth
experience for common user.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Martin Pitt]

Apparently this is still being disputed, so unsubcribing sponsors for
now. Please re-subscribe once there is an agreed-upon patch.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Simon Quigley]

@Julien so what do you suggest needs to be done now?

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Julien Lavergne]

I don't think lxsession-logout should be a depends of lxsession, because
lxsession works perfectly without it. In fact, people may want another
way to log out that lxsession-logout. There is other logout utilities
that work with lxsession.

I have no strong opinion about adding lxsession-logout in the recommends
field of lxsession. That make sense, but it doesn't fix the "problem"
for people who will remove the package and try to log out by clicking on
the lxpanel shortcut. If there is a default setting using lxsession-
logout in lxpanel, that's the same issue (it means, lxpanel needs also a
recommend of lxsession-logout).

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

> Should it go in Depends?

I don't know enough in detail about the functionality of lxsession and
lxsession-logout to be able to tell you this.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Mathew Hodson]

** Changed in: lxsession (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Tags added: packaging

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Simon Quigley]

@Sworddragon I just looked at what already was in Depends and
Recommends. Recommends had lxde-core while Depends had systemd. While
lxsession-logout provides the ability to log out, I was just looking at
the types of packages in each respective entry.

Am I wrong in doing that? Should it go in Depends?

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

Initially I have targeted to get lxsession-logout in the Depends field
but now I have no strong opinion about this. It should go to the Depends
field if lxsession-logout provides a significant amount of functionality
for lxsession.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Simon Quigley]

** Description changed:

- I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 dev with lxsession 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 and if I'm not
- wrong lxsession depended on lxsession-logout which got now removed from
- the dependency list. But removing this package resulted on my system
- that the logout window doesn't appear anymore so maybe it should get a
- dependency again.
+ Problem: lxsession-logout isn't installed by default, so you cannot log
+ out of an LXDE session using the GUI.
  
- Steps to reproduce: After install from server mini iso or another flavor
- install the lxde metapackage. Log into the lxde session click on the
- menu click logout and the session does not log out.
+ NOTE: this does NOT affect Lubuntu. This only affects a generic LXDE
+ install.
  
- Versions affected: vivid (only)
- Workaround if affected: run "sudo apt-get install lxsession-logout"
+ Steps to reproduce: After installing Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Minimal,
+ install the `lxde` metapackage. Reboot, log in to LXDE, and try to log
+ out.
+ 
+ Workaround: run the following in the terminal: sudo apt install
+ lxsession-logout

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Simon Quigley]

Attached is the fix for this bug. It adds lxsession-logout to the
Recommends for lxsession.

The reason I added this to the recommends is because lxde-core and other
lxde-related packages are in Recommends and packages like lsb_release
are in Depends, and in my opinion, it fits better in Recommends.

** Patch added: "diff.debdiff"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1423326/+attachment/4698965/+files/diff.debdiff

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Simon Quigley]

** Changed in: lxsession (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: lxsession (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Matthew Fearnley]

This has just happened for me on Ubuntu 16.04 Server.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Dave Kokandy]

This should be resolved before the Vivid release, as lxsession-logout is
one of the things listed on the lxsession0.5.1-1ubuntu1 changelog for
Ubuntu remaining changes :
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/0.5.1-1ubuntu1

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

 Actually if you are using lxde and not lubuntu can you please put that info 
 in bugs you report so I do not make wrong
 assumptions or get in arguments over miscommunication.

This information was already always available in the startpost.


 Can you confirm if installing lxsession-logout fixes this bug?

Yes, installing lxsession-logout causes the logout window to appear
again.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Dave Kokandy]

** Description changed:

  I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 dev with lxsession 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 and if I'm not
  wrong lxsession depended on lxsession-logout which got now removed from
  the dependency list. But removing this package resulted on my system
  that the logout window doesn't appear anymore so maybe it should get a
  dependency again.
  
+ Steps to reproduce: After install from server mini iso or another flavor
+ install the lxde metapackage. Log into the lxde session click on the
+ menu click logout and the session does not log out.
  
- Steps to reproduce After install from server mini iso or another flavor 
install the lxde metapacage. Log into the lxde session click on the menu click 
logout and the session does not log out.
+ Versions affected: vivid (only)
+ Workaround if affected: run sudo apt-get install lxsession-logout

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Dave Kokandy]

This is a valid bug.

trusty and utopic are not affected, as both have lxsession packages that
depend on lxsession-logout.

I believe the importance should be set to low, as installing LXDE on
vanilla Ubuntu instead of installing Lubuntu or lubuntu-desktop will
probably not be an action taken by most users.

Can you confirm if installing lxsession-logout fixes this bug? sudo
apt-get install lxsession-logout

Perhaps additional testing should be done, as there are several other
packages that were dependencies of previous lxsession packages that are
no longer dependencies:

output of apt-cache depends lxsession (Utopic vs Vivid):
https://www.diffchecker.com/ke7jzylm

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Brendan Perrine]

apt-cache show lxsession-logout describes lxsession-logout as

Package: lxsession-logout
Priority: optional
Section: universe/x11
Installed-Size: 70
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com
Original-Maintainer: Debian LXDE Maintainers lxde-deb...@lists.lxde.org
Architecture: amd64
Source: lxsession
Version: 0.5.1-1ubuntu1
Replaces: lxsession ( 0.4.9.2)
Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0), 
libglib2.0-0 (= 2.26.0), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.24.0), libx11-6, lxsession-data, 
consolekit
Recommends: lsb-release
Filename: pool/universe/l/lxsession/lxsession-logout_0.5.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
Size: 14142
MD5sum: aea666d03bac644d327d69463136a581
SHA1: f0a4b2bfad3506363da11be2f8d4c13e3dadb000
SHA256: f77a2fe72636eac823d3851830262bd6cec55f201b0ce425991b291f625507be
Description-en: utility to logout from a LXDE or an Openbox session
 LXSession-Logout is a simple utility for stoping or loging out from a LXDE or
 an Openbox session.
Description-md5: 6b80f851468390c906650e6d1f4bc784
Homepage: http://www.lxde.org/
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu
Task: lubuntu-core

The point of lxesssion-logout is to allow you to log out of LXDE or
openbox session so why wouldn't removing the way to let you log out and
then not let you log out be the intended behavior.

I don't see a reason to do things but users could remove it by mistake.
Or make a stupid boastful statement while maybe being intoxicated like
I am such an elite linux user I make it so I have to shutdown via the
command line. 

If they then regret this is would be easier for them  to login to an
lxde session and from synaptic or lubuntu software center undo their
previous error which they may end up regretting making it harder for
them to return to normal and improvment because if lxsession depends on
lxsession-logut removing lxsession-logout will remove lxsession. Is not
letting someone login because they cannot logout an improvment.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

 Relevant bit:
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   lubuntu-core* lubuntu-default-session* lubuntu-default-settings*
   lubuntu-desktop* lxsession-logout*

 This is a tangled web of dependencies. After rebooting (with sudo reboot), 
 I have more or less an LXDE desktop, but
 without the Lubuntu style.

LXDE != Lubuntu. For example I'm still on Ubuntu just with some LXDE
packages but with no Lubuntu packages.


 This might be something to look at on a wishlist, but I don't think removing 
 lxsession-logout is a likely occurrence.

It is not only about removing lxsession-logout as it is now not
guaranteed anymore that it gets installed if somebody wants to install
LXDE on its Ubuntu system.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Brendan Perrine]

Also current bzr head of lxsession includes the code for lxsession-
logout it just currently isn't in a released package. If I run sudo apt-
get install lxde from an install of 15.04 from the server iso I am
unable to log out. If lxsession-logout stays a seperate package that
could be a recommends or or depends on lxde.

** Description changed:

  I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 dev with lxsession 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 and if I'm not
  wrong lxsession depended on lxsession-logout which got now removed from
  the dependency list. But removing this package resulted on my system
  that the logout window doesn't appear anymore so maybe it should get a
  dependency again.
+ 
+ 
+ Steps to reproduce After install from server mini iso or another flavor 
install the lxde metapacage. Log into the lxde session click on the menu click 
logout and the session does not log out.

** Changed in: lxsession (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Dave Kokandy]

It's true that removing lxsession-logout will render you unable to
logout of the desktop using the desktop logout button.

Running this command:
$ sudo apt-get purge lxsession-logout

Results in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10558139

Relevant bit:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  lubuntu-core* lubuntu-default-session* lubuntu-default-settings*
  lubuntu-desktop* lxsession-logout*

This is a tangled web of dependencies. After rebooting (with sudo
reboot), I have more or less an LXDE desktop, but without the Lubuntu
style. Trying to hit Logout from this interesting thing seems to do
nothing, but then 5 seconds later, x screensaver goes into effect -
apparently it defaults to lock screen option when lxsession-logout is
removed.

Most things still function just fine.

This might be something to look at on a wishlist, but I don't think
removing lxsession-logout is a likely occurrence.

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Re: [Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Brendan Perrine]

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 21:51:52 -
Sworddragon 1423...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 guaranteed anymore that it gets installed if somebody wants to install
Actually if you are using lxde and not lubuntu can you please put that info in 
bugs you report so I do not make wrong assumptions or get in arguments over 
miscommunication. It will make everyone's life easier as you won't have to 
answer triager question with wrong assumption and will make it easier to get 
the problem fixed which is why you would follow bugs in the first place.  
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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

 Are you saying, you were unable to log out of your system?

Since the logout window doesn't appear anymore if the package gets
removed (or not installed at all) this is correct.

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[Bug 1423326] Re: lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

[Sworddragon]

 Are you saying, you were unable to log out of your system?

Since the logout window can't appear anymore this is correct.

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  lxsession should depend on lxsession-logout

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