[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-08-19 Thread Coeur Noir
It seems these settings in « Software & Updates » help to make updates 
availability more visible :
https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/524090Capturedu20170804003353.png

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-03-31 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as it 
used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an A on)
  → screenshot of expected behavior http://hpics.li/4fb6d59
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
  Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
  _
  
  2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
  where many computers remained NON-updated during months
  _
  
  2016-11-26 that very same inefficient and misleading
  behaviour also happens in 16.10
  _
  
  2017-01-06 interesting hints there
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21656378#p21656378
  _
  
- 2017-01-28 Today I've booted on my 16.04 I hadn't booted for at least 2
- weeks, expecting some updates. After 2 hours running, absolutely no
- warning any where about potential updates. So I ran synaptic and yes
- many updates are available http://hpics.li/ca343ba
+ 2017-01-28 Today I've booted on my 16.04 I hadn't booted for at least 2 
weeks, expecting some updates. After 2 hours running, absolutely no warning any 
where about potential updates. So I ran synaptic and yes many updates are 
available http://hpics.li/ca343ba
+ _
+ 
+ 2017-03-31 seems behaviour differs regarding installation, see
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=2007410

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-03-15 Thread Coeur Noir
Strange… today I still have the wrong behavior : there are pending
updates to do but few hours after booting, still no update-manager icon
nor notification…

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-03-11 Thread Coeur Noir
Oh ! Fixed ?


** Attachment added: "Icon for update, instead of notification, nice !"
   
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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-01-28 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as it 
used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an A on)
  → screenshot of expected behavior http://hpics.li/4fb6d59
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
  Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
  _
  
  2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
  where many computers remained NON-updated during months
  _
  
  2016-11-26 that very same inefficient and misleading
  behaviour also happens in 16.10
  _
  
  2017-01-06 interesting hints there
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21656378#p21656378
+ _
+ 
+ 2017-01-28 Today I've booted on my 16.04 I hadn't booted for at least 2
+ weeks, expecting some updates. After 2 hours running, absolutely no
+ warning any where about potential updates. So I ran synaptic and yes
+ many updates are available http://hpics.li/ca343ba

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2017-01-06 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as it 
used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an A on)
  → screenshot of expected behavior http://hpics.li/4fb6d59
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
  Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
  _
  
  2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
  where many computers remained NON-updated during months
  _
  
  2016-11-26 that very same inefficient and misleading
  behaviour also happens in 16.10
+ _
+ 
+ 2017-01-06 interesting hints there
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21656378#p21656378

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-11-26 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as it 
used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an A on)
  → screenshot of expected behavior http://hpics.li/4fb6d59
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
  Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
  _
  
  2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
  where many computers remained NON-updated during months
+ _
+ 
+ 2016-11-26 that very same inefficient and misleading
+ behaviour also happens in 16.10

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-11-26 Thread Coeur Noir
** Tags added: yakkety

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-11-25 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
- But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
- it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
- A on)
+ But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as it 
used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an A on)
+ → screenshot of expected behavior http://hpics.li/4fb6d59
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
  Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
  _
  
  2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
  where many computers remained NON-updated during months

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-11-24 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
  it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
  A on)
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
  More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
  _
  
- Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see
- them and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security
- matter.
+ Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see them 
and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security matter.
+ _
+ 
+ 2016-11-24 other example https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1999705
+ where many computers remained NON-updated during months

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-10-03 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: update-manager-core (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: update-manager-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-10-02 Thread Coeur Noir
** Tags added: xenial

** Also affects: update-manager-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-10-02 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
  it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
  A on)
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
  
  _
  
+ More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
+ _
  
- More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?
+ Notifications spring and vanish so it's very easy for users not to see
+ them and then run a non-updated system for long… It's a basic security
+ matter.

** Also affects: unity
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-09-17 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
  it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
  A on)
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223
+ 
+ _
+ 
+ 
+ More than 3 months later can someone tell at least if this was intended 
behavior ?

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-08-22 Thread Coeur Noir
** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
  it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
  A on)
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
  Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
  
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415
+ 
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21576223#p21576223

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-08-04 Thread Coeur Noir
** No longer affects: null-and-void

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-08-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
** Project changed: software-center => null-and-void

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-07-29 Thread Coeur Noir
** Tags added: security

** Also affects: software-center
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-07-16 Thread Coeur Noir
other example : https://forum.ubuntu-
fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415


** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  Ubuntu 16.04 here w/ Unity
  
  I sometimes have some notification about available update for my system.
  
  But icon for update manager never automatically shows in launcher - as
  it used to in previous ubuntu version. (a green background icon with an
  A on)
  
  After seeing the update notification in 16.04 one has to manually run
  update-manager or synaptic.
  
  Is this intended behavior ?
  
+ Illustrations & examples ( french ) :
+ 
  https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1989947
+ 
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529
+ 
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359
+ 
+ https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21554415#p21554415

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-07-07 Thread Coeur Noir
Other example of confusion with a beginner / non-geek user :

https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21550359#p21550359

He obviously never did any updates… and he's not to blame :

- he may have missed the notification
- he may have seen it but being new to ubuntu how could he know what to do then 
?

Former behavior with Icon in Launcher was far more informative and
obvious !

Does anybody have an opinion, idea, wish about it ?

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-07-06 Thread Coeur Noir
As this somehow-wrong-behaviour can prevent people from correctly
updating their system,

should it be considered as a security bug ?

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-29 Thread Coeur Noir
Another example of how this « new way » can be confusing :

https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1992529

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-22 Thread Coeur Noir
« it also used to be an indicator for that some time ago » well not
exactly for available updates but in case something went wrong with
updates ( red sign in panel ).

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-22 Thread Coeur Noir
If never-automatically-show update-manager icon in launcher is intended
behavior it sounds dangerous as most (new to ubuntu) people would
probably not go further to manually update…

At least there should be a reminder somewhere - it also used to be an
indicator for that some time ago.

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-03 Thread Coeur Noir
(notification and no update-manager icon in launcher)


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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-02 Thread Coeur Noir
Well synaptic and update-manager do not show the same update - why in my
case libre-office stuff is missing in update-manager ?

And once again update-manager icon did not show in launcher yet there
are security updates (imagemagick)

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-02 Thread Coeur Noir
@kikito I think it's not exactly the same problem. Automatic update-
manager may only show "security" updates while apt-update shows all
available updates.

What bothers me is the fact since I run xenial, update-manager never
automatically appeared in launcher once.

Only notification.

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-02 Thread Coeur Noir
(but you are right, in your last picture there is no security update at
all so updates regarding compiz should have appeared on both sides)

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-02 Thread kikito
there really is a big problem:
-> Apt-update: 37 packages can be upgraded.
-> Update Manager: 6 packages

? ? ? ? ?

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-06-01 Thread kikito
encore une fois . . .

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-05-30 Thread kikito
and here's the proof !

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-05-28 Thread kikito
more:

sometimes there are available updates with 'sudo apt update' (or synaptic),
but there is nothing in 'update manager'

sometimes . . .

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[Bug 1586625] Re: Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?

2016-05-28 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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