The fix is barely adequate for only a few people IMO.
Some 1990s-era programs for graphical work had the ability to drag the
corner where the rulers meet, out into the document somewhere, to set a
new origin.
I would expect to _at least_ have a document-specific setting to set the
origin
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And now also pulled in the Debian packaging (for now only uploading in
Debian experimental, will reach Ubuntu 19.10 only most likely).
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Magnificent :)
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@tweenk mind if I assign this to myself? I'd like to work on this.
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I too LOVE all the new features and the stability of Inkscape 62.2
but... but I use Inkscape for label design and the wonky design and
inversion of the x-y coordinates makes trying to mentally invert all the
label alignments makes my head explode... just sayin!
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@yharrow man, can you bring back your patch from the dust, even if it is
just visual/fake representation, it still is something, do you have link
somewhere ?
@kednar it is good in this state, it was in Triaged since 2003, I am not
here to complain, but instead of adding new ui and new buttons,
Sorry I accidentally changed the bug status to Confirmed and can't put
it back to Triaged.
Also came to say that I love Inkscape and this is a most wanted feature.
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Heartbeat comment to keep this love-rage active!
Inkscape I love you
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When you use Gimp to translate mockup to code that uses OpenGL coordinates (Y 0
is bottom), it's sad not to be able to reverse the ruler!
Right now, i'm just flipping the image on Y...
One day!
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I'd like to see this change too. Every other design program I've used
has had the origin at top left because that is how we read a page (top
to bottom). This isn't a mathematical graph we're wanting to draw here
(usually) :P
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You know.. I appreciate theres probably tons of other issues that have
been knocked over... but in what, 12 years? , you'd hope they could have
closed this out by now.
Is there any progress other than the declined patch to date ?
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@ yharrow
I did create a patch to just visually change the ruler and coordinate display,
but more experienced devs pointed out that this was not the best way to address
the issue (see #76).
Time has passed, I don't know how much work is still necessary. I'd also love
to see a fix and still
@vaifrax
While I do understand your approach as a programmer. From a design
perspective (particularly web-design in which the bottom is not always
clearly defined) it's often easier to think of coordinates as
originating from the top left corner. Creating web design mock-ups in
inkscape without
@Thorjelly
I wrote scripts writing out geometries at scale (in mm). For debugging
and other purposes it is most useful if the numeric values in the
document stay these numbers and the rulers also show the same numbers.
This is not only useful for the scale but also where on the page the
origin is
This might seem very naive, but why do you actually have to change the
internal coordinate system? Can't you add an option in user preferences
or document preferences, which in the latter case could be added as
metadata to not affect backwards compatibility, to where 0,0 should be
and have it only
Still not there in Inkscape 0.91 r13725 ?
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I was wondering if this is still an issue. I am currently using .48 and
don't want to hassle if it wont fix it. I've been using inkscape for
years and love it. I have only recently noticed that this is an issue.
If there were a python script out there, that would be cool. I'm not
very versed in
Having read all that is written here over several years I came to the
following conclusion:
Surely somewhere someone must be sitting laughing at us, because they know
something we don't.
Every time someone tries to address this issue it gets shot down. Without
explanation!
The developers don't
Jayson: Thank you for adding absolutely nothing of value here other than
whining that a free piece of software isn't the most perfect tool for
you personally. It HAS been discussed about why various attempts to fix
this over the years have been shot down... basically we need to maintain
ScislaC++
I love all that you (and team) do, always. I use Inkscape every day,
and love all of it, even the parts that are not perfect, because it's free,
it's ours, and if I wanted to, I could learn how to fix it myself. I
certainly
would not complain about any piece of open source software not
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I tried looking at the svg side and I'm a little confused.
How about, as a first step, modifying inkscape so that rulers and mouse pointer
coordinate status use the origin that is indirectly defined by the viewbox?
What about the viewbox units? Second step would be a gui to actually configure
I was not able to compile for Mac OS. I'm sure it's no fault of anyone but
me, but this is why I have not been able to test.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:34 PM, vaifrax 170...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I tried looking at the svg side and I'm a little confused.
How about, as a first step,
The patch by vaifrax does not address the actual issue, which is that
Inkscape internally uses 'desktop coordinates' in many places. These
'desktop coordinates' are hardcoded as an Y-grows-upwards system that
starts at the bottom left corner of the page. A proper solution will be
composed of two
@vaifrax: Hi! I havn't been able to build this on my system yet due to
other commitments. I would however like to pay you for your efforts so
far and I'd like to encourage you to keep up the good work. I'll pay my
original pledge now and make a new one so you can keep on improving
this.
However,
@jarl-arntzen: Thanks. Even though I spent many days trying to get this
little bit of patch working (mainly because of lack of experience), I'm
not sure if this idea of mine will be an accepted solution and make it
into the official build. I'm not against receiving money but especially
in this
Could someone else than me test the patch and report back, please?
I won't continue with improvements until the more experienced devs agree that
this is the way to go.
cheers
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I'll get around to test a build tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the delay.
Den 16. feb. 2013 00.40 skrev lemasney 170...@bugs.launchpad.net
følgende:
Exciting! Can't wait to test.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM, vaifrax 170...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:
oops, found some debugging
another update, in case you use autotools the new files were not
compiled, fixed now (thanks ~suv)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170049/+attachment/3531626/+files/bugfix170049_partial2.patch
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I rewrote the gui code and hopefully fixed all issues, please test.
Use the patch or branch
https://code.launchpad.net/~vaifrax/inkscape/bugfix170049
future work:
- for convenience, add buttons to set origin relative to page (see #62)
- for convenience, add draggable origin (see #61, #63)
- use
oops, found some debugging messages I forgot, updated now
** Patch added: removed some more debugging messages
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170049/+attachment/3530900/+files/bugfix170049_partial2.patch
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Exciting! Can't wait to test.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM, vaifrax 170...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
oops, found some debugging messages I forgot, updated now
** Patch added: removed some more debugging messages
Due to some problems I have with the gui and to make future changes
easier, I'm rewriting the gui code I had so far.
@jarl-arntzen: have you tested my partial solution?
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I'm also willing to test. Was there a link to a patch or build? I'm on a
Mac, so it may diversify the test.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, vaifrax 170...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Due to some problems I have with the gui and to make future changes
easier, I'm rewriting the gui code I had so
@lemasney: here is a partially working first step to a possible solution which
only affects rulers and mouse pointer status coordinates:
https://code.launchpad.net/~vaifrax/inkscape/bugfix170049
You can find text boxes in the document properties; in the current state
keyboard input does not
@vaifrax: Cool stuff. I look forward to testing this out. The main task
is to make the origin move at all and to make sure that the rest of the
app still works as it should. E.g. moving origin to top left corner and
then enter some positive numeric x/y values should work but I'm willing
to test
So to be clear. Where the vertical ruler and the horizontal ruler meet in
the upper left hand corner, click and drag out as though you were dropping
a grid line. Instead of a grid line, you'd set the origin of the ruler. It
would also set the origin of the grid. Units and other measurements should
I have partly implemented what I described in #57, I still have work to do on
the GUI elements.
See attached image for how it could look like (this is also the easiest to
implement that I can think of for now).
@lemasney: I did not quite understand, click and drag on that corner then moves
the
Bounty for this fix including adding dpi to the ruler scale is now at $170.
http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/127/inverted-ruler-co-ordinate-system
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It's my pleasure. In regards to the way in which it should be implemented,
it's been resolved in other systems, like Corel Draw, with a click and drag
from corner where rulers meet to set origin. I think this would work
perfectly.
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM, paul pchristi...@gmail.com wrote:
I just sponsored the freedomsponsors project for $30.
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I tried to simply add a multiplier and an offset for each ruler which
seems to work as expected. (I did not yet manage to link scalar input
values of the gui to the actual values but this should not be hard.)
This idea could solve the problem of some users I guess, however there would be
a few
Vaifrax - below is an attempted patch which may give you approach
insight.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170049/+attachment/1261051/+files
/invert-ruler-v1.diff
I know it broke others things, but not exactly sure what. After that
there has been no real effort described.
Just so you
Thanks for joining the bounty group, Lemasney.
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This issue now has 3 people offering a bounty for a fix totaling $65 at:
http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/127/create-moveable-ruler-
origin-in-inkscape-inverted-co-ordinate-system
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Well. One proposal could be to put a bounty on FreedomSponsors.org . Let's
put it there and make some noise :) . Gimp will get a vastly improved
resizing tool thanks to sponsors there.
I've had this gripe with Inkscape for as long as I've used it too. I'm
coping, thought, no problem.
Actually,
Hi everyone. I registered this issue in the kickstarting section on
FreedomSponsors. This means that if you need this issue that bad, you
can go to http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/127/create-moveable-
ruler-origin-in-inkscape-inverted-co-ordinate-system and offer a few
bucks for it.
I'm
Hi everyone. I need this bug/feature so much that I'm willing to pay 30.00
bucks for it.
This offer is registered at FreedomSponsors
(http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/127/create-moveable-ruler-origin-in-inkscape-inverted-co-ordinate-system).
Once you solve it (according to the
Thanks for the feedback . . .
Thinking out loud, I'm willing to put a bounty pledge in if someone on the
Inkscape dev leadership team can come up with scope.
Anyone interested in seeing if we can crowd fund this issue to the point
we get leading stakeholders of Inkscape involved ? ? ?
In the
7 years watching this. I concur, its sad this is not addressed. It is
a block on following SVG standards and a block of serious nag to many
would be user's.
What can us non-dev folks do to help make this happen?
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milestone:0.49 → none
Hi devs, very sad to see this fall down. I wonder if there can be a
different way to solve this?
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I'm with ~suv about 1.quadrant coordinate system being quite handy.
I don't understand why the SVG spec didn't include an option to invert the
Y-Axis.
Sure you can use a scale 1,-1 for the root viewport but then the text will be
drawn upside down.
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Longtime Inkscape user, very much love the app and will use and
recommend it for many years to come, but the fact that this bug has been
filed 9 years ago, is prioritized High and still not fixed makes me
chuckle a bit.
Like many others, I need to be able to write off x/y origins in images
into
The reality is that we acknowledge the importance of the bug, but we
need to actually fix it, not put a bandaid on it. Something that tends
to happen if a hack fix is applied, the real underlying problem is
never addressed and properly fixed. At one point Krzysztof had applied a
coordinate fix to
I edit metafile technical documents and would love to use Inkscape.
Unfortunately the Y coordinates has been a show stopper for years.
(I've fawned over IS for over 4 years wishing I could use it or had the
technical knowhow to fix it.)
It is virtually impossible to create or edit any metafile
Forgive me for being a back-seat driver, I know how frustrating it can
be to receive unsolicited and uninformed comments from random users, yet
here I go any way.
I can't speak for anyone else, but all I really need is for coordinates
to be displayed in the GUI using the correct origin and it
Hello, I'm a bit confused about the status of the fixes / patches to this bug.
Krzysztof Kosinski wrote that there were some regressions, and the fix was
reverted.
Is this bug going to be fixed in time for the 0.49 release? Just curious, and
really hoping it will be.
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ottadini: Krzysztof hasn't indicated otherwise. Either way, there is
plenty of time and Inkscape 0.49 isn't on the horizon for anytime
relatively soon. I really hope when it lands it does also take care of
~suv's (and my own) concern that was mentioned in
A great tool. Just want to bump this, 'cuz.. damn... :)
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I am in full agree about this amazing product... and am wondering if the
coordinate issue is why it won't sent files to my Universal Laser.
Anybody have some light for me? It won't work at all.
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Totally agree. Hope this will be fixed soon (or add this feature to flip
the ruler) soon.
Other than that, Inkscape rocks! You guys did awesome job!
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I'm using inkscape as the basis of a level editor for a 2d indie game
and hit this problem.
I was really confused why everything was upside down... took me a couple
hours to figure out what was goin on (i thought it was my projection
matrix or a left handed vs right handed coordinate system at
** Description changed:
The y-axis of the rulers' co-ordinate system is
inverted (increasing upwards), and places the origin on
- the bottom left of he viewport. The SVG spec places the
+ the bottom left of the viewport. The SVG spec places the
default origin on the top left of the
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