[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 484305 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
Created attachment 167611 attachment-839626-0.html What Classification and Product should I report session restore bugs in? I'd rather not use "I don't know" if there's something more accurate Alan Prescott alanjpresc...@gmail.com On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 16:00, Nate Graham wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329 > > --- Comment #90 from Nate Graham --- > Session restore is unrelated to this feature request. > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are on the CC list for the bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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plasmashell | Session Management would be the place. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Session restore is unrelated to this feature request. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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The whole restore from manually saved session seems to be out of kilter under Plasma6/Wayland. The set up I've been using previously is 8 Desktops with Dolphin on 1, Konsole on 5 and Firefox on 7, all set to to show on All Activities and in the positions I want. At the moment the only app that opens is Firefox and that on Desktop 1, in the middle of the Desktop and only available in the current activity. Operating System: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20240319 KDE Plasma Version: 6.0.2 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.0.0 Qt Version: 6.6.2 Kernel Version: 6.8.1-1-default (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I case of restore Plasma session if you use one monitor then all windows are placed in the middle of screen on the stack. IMO, this is not so elegant and convenient, because user after that need to/usually want rearrange/place them in way like were placed in previous session. About save position. I think setting rules to given window to save its position would be saved isn't easy for regular user. In my opinion easiest would be put option into window's properties. I mean icon at the left top corner if window and its menu, where is placed entry "More options" and here "Move", "Resize", "Full Screen", e.t.c.. And here would be good to put here option like "Save my position". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 450806 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I would very much love it when the window placement policy of Plasma got a little less jumpy. But if that is very hard to achieve (also under Wayland) I would like to make a suggestion: only very recent I discovered that once you close an application in ms windows (10) using the window control "x" while at the same time pressing the Shift-key, it will from then on remember the size and position of that specific window. I find that quite practical. That could be a temporary solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Or, to take my thought in the previous comment (72) a little further: perhaps there could be a preference "remember window size and position" that made kwin automatically save a "window rule" when an app is closed. And in this "window rule" size and position were to be saved. That way the user wouldn't have to bother about the shortcut Shift-close. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 438599 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 435914 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 435357 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 433836 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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That's not related to this issue and is already tracked with Bug 429943. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
Seems that KDE apps ported to Windows are affected by a corruption of the config file ( a lot of "\" characters on the configuration file) and this is placing the main app window on a strange position (with a strange size) this is an example of a line: from this: Height 1080=900 to this: .\\DISPLAY1 .\\DISPLAY2 Height 1080=900 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 429361 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
This is in progress on Wayland! See https://invent.kde.org/plasma /kwayland-server/-/merge_requests/69 and https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/178 On X11, I just merged a limited version for only KDE apps' main windows, which is the best we can do there. See bug 415150. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to qik00yt from comment #59) > > But because the window manager > > does not > > Why ? Is there a reason it cant ? That's what's being discussed by various developers in the comment thread of this bug report. :) There are a variety of technical challenges to making work on both X11 and Wayland. On X11, the challenges relate to various mismatches between what X11 provides the window manager and what the window manager needs. On Wayland, it're more about needed functionality not having been merged into a protocol yet. Again, if it were easy, it would already be done. :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to David Nemeskey from comment #60) > 1. Yes, what I described is the lack of the feature in the Gnome / Cinnamon > ecosystem as a whole. However, at least some applications (and key > applications like Terminal, Synaptic, etc.) do it, which makes it a much > more acceptable experience than in KDE (speaking from memory here, but the > issue is still open, so...) For sure. Similar,y, some KDE applications already support this individually, such as Discover and Elisa. > 2. The fact that some applications do it means it is possible, and was > possible even with X11. X11 limitations don't come into play when the app itself does it. > 3. While this issue was opened against KWin, we users don't care where the > solution will land. If it can only be done on the toolkit level (which is > probably better than forcing each app/developer to implement it separately), > so be it. Indeed, that's exactly what Bug 415150 is tracking: having our app framework provide the feature automatically for all KDE apps, in the absence of the window manager doing it automatically. Of course time is limited, and here I am responding to comments in a bug report instead of writing code. ;) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #62) > (In reply to David Nemeskey from comment #60) > > 1. Yes, what I described is the lack of the feature in the Gnome / Cinnamon > > ecosystem as a whole. However, at least some applications (and key > > applications like Terminal, Synaptic, etc.) do it, which makes it a much > > more acceptable experience than in KDE (speaking from memory here, but the > > issue is still open, so...) > For sure. Similar,y, some KDE applications already support this > individually, such as Discover and Elisa. > > > 2. The fact that some applications do it means it is possible, and was > > possible even with X11. > X11 limitations don't come into play when the app itself does it. > > > 3. While this issue was opened against KWin, we users don't care where the > > solution will land. If it can only be done on the toolkit level (which is > > probably better than forcing each app/developer to implement it separately), > > so be it. > Indeed, that's exactly what Bug 415150 is tracking: having our app framework > provide the feature automatically for all KDE apps, in the absence of the > window manager doing it automatically. > > Of course time is limited, and here I am responding to comments in a bug > report instead of writing code. ;) On my PC even Dolphin, not to mention Discover and Elisa do not remember the last size and placement. But they do on my laptop somehow, despite the configs being IDENTICAL -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
(In reply to qik00yt from comment #46) > Not everyone can use Wayland. For example i cannot because i have an nvidia > gpu. No feature should be exclusive to X11 or Waypand. I'm afraid that we don't have enough information on X11. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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This isn't about recognizing the issue, but solving it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Please learn to code before attacking those who can. Only then you will understand how hard it is. If I misunderstood your comment, and you are indeed able to code, why not suggest a patch? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #58) > (In reply to David Nemeskey from comment #56) > > Incidentally, on Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon, some apps remember their size, > > some remember their position as well, while others open in the middle of the > > screen in a default size. It was probably the same for Gnome back in 2009 > > before I switched to KDE. It's nowhere near optimal, but it shows that the > > information is (was) there. > In fact, what you describe is the *lack* of this feature: I wanted to point out three things in my comment, but apparently managed to mix them up. 1. Yes, what I described is the lack of the feature in the Gnome / Cinnamon ecosystem as a whole. However, at least some applications (and key applications like Terminal, Synaptic, etc.) do it, which makes it a much more acceptable experience than in KDE (speaking from memory here, but the issue is still open, so...) 2. The fact that some applications do it means it is possible, and was possible even with X11. 3. While this issue was opened against KWin, we users don't care where the solution will land. If it can only be done on the toolkit level (which is probably better than forcing each app/developer to implement it separately), so be it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Meh, I'm still not fully awake. The problem is that we don't have enough information on X11 to identify windows and thus place them at their previous position. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Christoph: that's a fallacy; you don't have to be a cook to recognize badly prepared food. This issue has been open for 20 years; I added myself to the CC list 10 years ago, when I was still using KDE. So even if it is a difficult problem, KDE has had all the time in the world to fix it. Incidentally, on Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon, some apps remember their size, some remember their position as well, while others open in the middle of the screen in a default size. It was probably the same for Gnome back in 2009 before I switched to KDE. It's nowhere near optimal, but it shows that the information is (was) there. You might be right in saying that this is not a KWin issue, but should be handled in KDE core or wherever. Rest assured, that's completely fine with us, as long as this feature gets implemented somewhere. People using KDE probably mostly use K* apps anyway (with the exception of browsers and Libre Office, which remember their positions). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 424257 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to David Nemeskey from comment #56) > Incidentally, on Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon, some apps remember their size, > some remember their position as well, while others open in the middle of the > screen in a default size. It was probably the same for Gnome back in 2009 > before I switched to KDE. It's nowhere near optimal, but it shows that the > information is (was) there. In fact, what you describe is the *lack* of this feature: if the window manager handled remembering window sizes and positions, then no window would ever fail to remember its size or position. But because the window manager does not, it's up to each app (or each toolkit that apps are built with) to implement the feature on its own, which is why it works for some apps but not others. We all want this feature, it's about figuring out how to do it. If it was easy, it would have been done ages ago. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #58) > (In reply to David Nemeskey from comment #56) > > Incidentally, on Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon, some apps remember their size, > > some remember their position as well, while others open in the middle of the > > screen in a default size. It was probably the same for Gnome back in 2009 > > before I switched to KDE. It's nowhere near optimal, but it shows that the > > information is (was) there. > In fact, what you describe is the *lack* of this feature: if the window > manager handled remembering window sizes and positions, then no window would > ever fail to remember its size or position. But because the window manager > does not, it's up to each app (or each toolkit that apps are built with) to > implement the feature on its own, which is why it works for some apps but > not others. > > We all want this feature, it's about figuring out how to do it. If it was > easy, it would have been done ages ago. > But because the window manager > does not Why ? Is there a reason it cant ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase-workspace in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to qik00yt from comment #48) > Well, Gnome somehow does it, i have been using it for some time and it keeps > the position and size of 99% of software i ever ran. Even most games ran > through Proton. The last time I tried GNOME, window positions were not remembered. Maybe they implemented this since then, or maybe they made GTK itself remember window positions, which would provide the illusion that their window manager Mutter is doing it, even though it's not. Would you be able to investigate a bit to see which approach they took? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Here we are, 20 years after the reporting of this bug/feature request/wish (which wasn't even the first report), and not that much happened. Monitors bacame 5-10x bigger in pixel count and windows popping up in unexpected places are progressively harder to find, but hey? I now could at length post one or antother episode from my life that happened during those 20 years, but - to sum it up - time progressed for me, I can't really afford to wait another 20 years to get this sorted out (via kwin, X11 or wayland), so, folks, lets be realistic, let's just close this bug 15329, collectively forget about it - it's not gonna happen, nobody capable of coding really cares about it enough - and just happily move on. If we're really passionate about it, we could come back in 20 years, take a look at bug 15329 and tell our children or grand-children a nice little episode from our lives about the nightmare of crazily positioned windows in KDE and how we eventually learned to live with it. I bid you a very warm farewell, live long and prosper Wolfi -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #47) > I'd also like this on X11, but it seems almost impossible to do, after > talking with several KWin developers about it in detail. And NVIDIA GPUs are > now supported on Wayland, FWIW. Also KDE can currently remember the posotion of windows by adding a window rule. But it has to be done for every program manually and thats unacceptable. But it proves it is curreltly possible. We should get an option to remember all window positions and sizes and be able to add window rules AS AN EXCEPTION to that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #47) > I'd also like this on X11, but it seems almost impossible to do, after > talking with several KWin developers about it in detail. And NVIDIA GPUs are > now supported on Wayland, FWIW. Well, Gnome somehow does it, i have been using it for some time and it keeps the position and size of 99% of software i ever ran. Even most games ran through Proton. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings Status: Confirmed => Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Talked to the current KWin developers and they indicated that this is quite feasible on Wayland once https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland /wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18 lands upstream. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Just to set expectations it's when that lands upstream, and we implement it and every client also implements what is relevant. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'd also like this on X11, but it seems almost impossible to do, after talking with several KWin developers about it in detail. And NVIDIA GPUs are now supported on Wayland, FWIW. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
*** Bug 424162 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761]
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #44) > Talked to the current KWin developers and they indicated that this is quite > feasible on Wayland once > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18 > lands upstream. Not everyone can use Wayland. For example i cannot because i have an nvidia gpu. No feature should be exclusive to X11 or Waypand. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/335761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
Launchpad has imported 43 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2000-11-14T13:42:45+00:00 Kidcat7 wrote: (*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***) Package: kwin Version: 2.0 Severity: wishlist Installed from: Mandrake 7.2 RPM I think that the placement policy should have en aditional feature called 'Remember'. M$-winslows has this feature and it is awfully nice... Especially when running at high resolutions it is nice that everything pops up in the same size on the same place. I know that other WM's has this feature so it should not be hard to implement ;) (submitted via bugs.kde.org) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/0 On 2002-09-26T19:44:57+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: *** Bug 27969 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/1 On 2002-10-01T12:18:19+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: *** Bug 18578 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/2 On 2002-10-02T17:37:51+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: See also bug #39946. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/3 On 2002-10-19T22:18:47+00:00 hbush wrote: > Especially when running at high resolutions it is nice that everything pops up in the same size on the same place. Very strongly supported. There should be some way to define strict, unchangeable by application itself position and size of initial window. All child windows (optionally) should have the same size. Cascading windows should use the same initial position incremented by some defineable steps (default values depending of screen resolution). This feature will be valuable specially with business people. Take a look on business people desktops: most of them want their mail app, text editor, browser etc. exactly on positions they like, not everywhere decided by some optimization algorithm. I know :-) I want myself all things on my 1600*1200 desktop to be on their defined positions, because I am used to that order and do not want to distract my attention seeking where the hell KMail opened this time and why it is so small this morning - I need to resize it and bring back to its right place anyway. Annoying. So to say we need hammer and nails to fix at least main KDE apps in places they should be forever. Title option Save Settings _doesnt_ do this, BTW. It too often forgets about place and size. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/4 On 2002-12-19T19:54:32+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: *** Bug 28224 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/5 On 2003-05-22T15:45:16+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: *** Bug 58771 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/6 On 2003-10-27T13:04:04+00:00 Sébastien Laoût wrote: - I agree : having theire windows alwayse at the same position is needed. - And have a maximized flag is also good (especialy with the new interactive changing desktop resolution, or orientation... or simply by changing the kicker size). - It's already doable but few programs, as OpenOffice, overwrite this behavor and I doesn't like : his window isn't maximized and it still few pixels ! - And also, at the moment, we must explicitly specifie which windows will keep theire geometry. But I want save geometrie of ALL windows : please add a mode to ALWAYSE remember windows properties by default. What KWin III will change ? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comments/7 On 2004-04-09T23:21:22+00:00 L-lunak-5 wrote: *** Bug 79300 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase- workspace/+bug/335761/comment
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 Title: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
Hi there, We are in the process of closing wishlist items that have already been reported at KDE. Don't worry, your issue still is being tracked at KDE's bug tracker at: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329 . It's just that Kubuntu currently does not have the manpower necessary to take this feature on ourselves. We will receive this functionality once KDE implements it in one of their releases. Thanks for understanding, and have a nice day. ** Changed in: kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
Rejecting for kubuntu-default-settings since upstream needs to accept this as default, also from a general point of view, not the window manager should remember the position and size, but the application, thus being wm-agnostic. Moving to kdebase-workspace waiting on upstream action. ** Package changed: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) = kdebase- workspace (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] [NEW] Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: kubuntu-default-settings The desktop evironment must remember positions and size for all apps, for better desktop experience. It's very annoying to have to resize the applications each time they boot. This bug affects to Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu. In Kubuntu, it can be done by hand with KWin, but this is something that KWin should know do by himself (like MS Windows, for example). ** Affects: kubuntu-default-settings Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Affects: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #15329 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329 ** Also affects: kubuntu-default-settings via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-default-settings in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335761] Re: Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- Placement policy 'Remember' by default for all windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335761 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-default-settings in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
