Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-09-21 Thread Julian Edwards
On Friday 21 September 2012 06:38:24 you wrote:
 @Julian, I'm not sure which (GUI?) application you're talking about when
 you say disappeared from the mixer. However, there is indeed a problem
 at ALSA/kernel level with the mixer of the playstation eye, as you can
 see if you try to run amixer -c1 or alsamixer.

Sorry - I run under KDE usually and the recording device doesn't appear in 
kmixer.  It's quite possible that this is a KDE bug though, but having said 
that the other pulse devices appear fine.  The emulated PSEye device also 
appears if I load the alsa source module in PA.

It does appear fine in KDE's hardware settings though, so it seems as though 
it's just the mixer that's broken.

 As for the log, it seems like the eye is properly detected (except for
 the mixer error) 

I suspect the mixer error is pertinent :)

 both at startup and after plug/unplug. Can you record
 from it?

I can but after booting I have to unplug and re-plug it back in before 
anything comes through.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-08 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 03:14:55AM EST, Yani Ioannou wrote:
 Luke: in my experience I need to have the default.pa hack or the ps3 eye
 isn't detected. From what I can tell with the kinect patch I've done
 everything necessary in terms of adding the profile to pulse, but I may
 be missing something from the module loading standpoint? I'm hoping
 upstream/someone with more experience can easily answer that... first
 time I've dabbled in the pulseaudio code I'm afraid.

Ok, so to be clear, the default.pa is *ONLY* for the PS3 eye, correct?

Luke

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Julian Edwards
On Monday 06 February 2012 20:35:10 you wrote:
 And always remember, to use steps 7 through 9 each time you shut down
 your computer or restart it to keep your mic support.
 
 Enjoy guys :)

Thanks for the help here, but fix released is a bit premature.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Luke Yelavich
affects ubuntu/pulseaudio
 status confirmed

Thanks for the patch, but I would feel much better if we added specific
udev rules, and if necessary, new profile config files for the device(s)
discussed in this thread. Unless you have the Kinect hardware, there is
no way of knowing whether the default profile you created in that patch
will work. In addition, adding the 4 channel profile to the default
configuration file may break audio input for other hardware, which is
exactly why udev rules and specific configuration files are used for
specific hardware in the first place.  David, would you agree?

Luke


** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
Another thing I'd like to mention and point out is that Unity doesn't
mainly use pavucontrol. It has its own Volume Control and Configuration.
The rules really do apply differently to Unity than any other non-unity
Ubuntu spins IMO.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
Luke,

I suppose I'll let you guys deal with this. You guys know more of what
you're doing than I do and April isn't that far away. By the time Ubuntu
12.04 Precise Pangolin comes along I'm sure this issue will be fixed and
working the same way it did in prior Ubuntu distributions. Also just for
the record, I don't use Unity and I refuse to do so, so for the people who
do, the fix may need to be a bit more involved.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
I apologize also. I did not specify which distribution I was using when I
first posted this bug. I'm using LUbuntu which is apparently not supported.
From what I was told the only distribution Canonical supports is any Unity
based distribution. I figured issues like this can apply to any Ubuntu
derivative. I do not know how the PS3 Eye works with Unity. I have not
tried it and no offense but I don't plan to. Personally, Unity is not for
me and we could leave it at that.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Luke Yelavich
Ok, I'll bring this up with upstream, as much of this profile work has
been done there. As for Unity etc, that is for other bugs if you have
them. The sound preferences UI is being reworked and will be available
in 12.04 shortly, as part of the general control centre. If your
distribution uses GNOME 3 components of any kind, you will get thhis
different UI. I should also point out that Unity is the shell and the
shell only, everything else are GNOME applications, like the control
center etc.

Anyway, enough off-topic chatter form me.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
Ahh ok I understand now. Yeah I guess I didn't mean Unity. I meant Control
Center. Using LUbuntu, I don't really have the same apps as I did when I
used Ubuntu 11.04 VIA Gnome 2. Once I made the switch to lxde, certain apps
changed as did the way things functioned. Once of them was in fact that
pulseaudio applications like pavucontrol seem to manage LUbuntu's sound as
opposed to Control Center. So I don't know if this may or may not have
anything to do with how a fix might work. If the fix actually works through
Control Center, who knows how it could be done. For all I know pulseaudio
could even be done away with eventually. Though its unlikely.

Point being that this device works rather well in Alsa without pulseaudio.
It can do basic functions like record in Audacity and even record in
ARecord without having to fartz around with anything. So it would all
depend on how heavy 12.04 as well as its apps like skype will rely on
pulseaudio or even if its worth pushing pulseaudio anymore. Seems day by
day people are rather fickle with what they feel like pushing to the
forefront or dealing with. Pulseaudio could fade away just as easily as it
came along depending on how much Alsa can do on its own with its new
releases once those come along.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
Also I would like to mention that this bug seems to weigh heavy on
pulseaudio and not ALSA. Thus far the only issue with ALSA that has been
mentioned is the Alsamixer bug when trying to play with the volume for the
PS3 Eye.

If it hasn't been acknowledged already, this bug is a bug with pulseaudio.
If pulseaudio is taken out of the equation and we don't have to depend on
pulseaudio to use certain apps, this problem is hence non existent. So
we're really waiting on a pulseaudio fix on this one.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny
Well hopefully in 12.04 again all of these issues can be solved. I guess
with that I'll just wait a couple of months and see what happens. Theres
really nothing more we can say about this. Its just a matter of playing the
waiting game at this point.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-07 Thread Luke Yelavich
Just to clarrify, does the patch Yani attached also require a default.pa
hack to work, or is that specific to the PS3 camera?

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-06 Thread Johnny
Yeah I checked that file, that line was already in it by default. It is 
just odd because it seems like everything was done right yet the mic 
still doesn't seem to be working. You will see the meter on go up and 
down for maybe about 10 seconds before completely freezing and dropping 
out. I think it may have something to do with the hot plugging but I'm 
not certain. I had an awfully hard time following those directions on 
the site with the kinect link you gave and this is why I created the 
default.conf in the first place. It just seemed easier yet unfortunately 
didn't work out as I planned.

On 02/06/2012 12:57 PM, Yani Ioannou wrote:
 Sorry Johnny et. al., I should have mentioned I actually got it working
 and provided more information.

 Once you'd added an appropriate 4-channel input profile whatever way you
 want (I've removed the kinect specific profile and added a default one
 since there are plenty of 4-channel mics out there), the trick is you
 also need to edit the default.pa configuration to manually load the
 module for that source by adding a line like this to
 /etc/pulseaudio/default.pa

 load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:1,0

 This is obviously not a long term solution, and I'm not event sure why
 it's necessary, but once you do the playstation eye shows up as an input
 device in the gnome sound applet and you can record from it using
 pulseaudio.

 I've included a patch against the pulseaudio source code (I was using it
 to create a personalized pulseaudio debian package) that I believe
 provides a solution to the problem of 4-microphone input profiles in
 pulseaudio, removing the device-specific kinect profile (and udev
 config) adding a default profile.

 ** Patch added: 0617-Add-default-4-channel-mic-array-profile.patch
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/886449/+attachment/2720028/+files/0617-Add-default-4-channel-mic-array-profile.patch


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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-06 Thread Johnny
Unless the directory for you is different anyways. Mine says 
/etc/pulse/default.pa and the line was already there.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-06 Thread Johnny
Never mind, it worked perfectly in Cheese. Its just skype I'm having the 
issues with for some reason.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-06 Thread Johnny
On 02/06/2012 01:24 PM, Yani Ioannou wrote:
 BTW that line is in /etc/pulseaudio/default.pa by default but it's
 commented out, did you uncomment it?

Weird for some reason it works in skype now. I didn't even have to do 
anything actually...cool I guess the problem is somewhat solved 
then. All that is needed is that default.conf I provided.

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Re: [Bug 886449] Re: [USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1, recording] Pulseaudio fails to detect card

2012-02-06 Thread Johnny
Hopefully, now that this has all been figured out, maybe Ubuntu 12.04 
can have the support right off the bat without having to go crazy like this.

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