Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-10-23 Thread Mitsuya Shibata
Hi Gunnar, > What's your opinion on mozc vs. kkc? Would it be fine to switch to ibus-kkc > as default for Japanese in Ubuntu 18.04, or are there reasons to 'fight' for > ibus-mozc? Please see the discussion at . I prefer to continue using Mozc at least on

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-10-22 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2017-10-22 14:58, Mitsuya Shibata wrote: I guess we need to patch gnome-desktop if Ubuntu decides to use different default input methods for certain languages. What significance does the default input source have on GNOME? Are we affected atm? I'm asking because my understanding is that

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-10-22 Thread Mitsuya Shibata
>> I guess we need to patch gnome-desktop if Ubuntu decides to use >> different default input methods for certain languages. > > What significance does the default input source have on GNOME? Are we > affected atm? I'm asking because my understanding is that this is determined > in Ubuntu by the

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-10-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2017-10-21 02:44, Jeremy Bicha wrote: gnome-desktop 3.27.1 was released today and changed GNOME's default Japanese input method from ibus-anthy to ibus-kkc. https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/commit/?id=9c1aea9d The GNOME bug is interesting since it originally requested switching to

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-10-20 Thread Jeremy Bicha
gnome-desktop 3.27.1 was released today and changed GNOME's default Japanese input method from ibus-anthy to ibus-kkc. https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/commit/?id=9c1aea9d The GNOME bug is interesting since it originally requested switching to ibus-mozc (Ubuntu's current default) but

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-28 Thread Mitsuya Shibata
Hi Gunnar, 2017-09-25 0:24 GMT+09:00 Gunnar Hjalmarsson : > On 2017-09-24 10:19, Mitsuya Shibata wrote: >> >> Could this be automatically done by ubiquity and language-selector as >> like language-pack? > > > Yes, that's how it would reasonably be done if it's decided to drop

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-24 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2017-09-24 10:19, Mitsuya Shibata wrote: On non-live session, mozc-utils-gui needs to be installed for Japanse Input Method users. Many Japanese users customize keymap style (MS-IME like or ATOK like, and so on...), customize romaji table, add/edit user's dictionary... Could this be

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-24 Thread Mitsuya Shibata
Hi, >> I tested without mozc-utils-gui, and was able to select between different >> modes and produce beautiful characters. One difference I noticed when >> installing mozc-utils-gui was that also a 'tools' menu showed up in the >> language menu. > > Oh, I had to log out and log back in to see

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > Aren't packages, which are recommended by packages in the live seed, > automatically included on the ISO? Or is it possible to explicitly exclude > recommended packages? An alternate recommends could work. > I

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-23 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hi Jeremy, On 2017-09-23 22:47, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Qt4 was removed from the default Ubuntu 17.10 ISO this week as a result of dropping fcitx support there. It looks like the only reason Qt5 is still there is because ibus-mozc recommends mozc-utils-gui which depends on Qt5. mozc is a Japanese

Re: mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > 2. It's hard for me to tell but mozc-utils-gui is possibly the only > thing keeping Qt in Ubuntu main. I guess we should consider whether > that app is important enough to stay in 'supported' if we do drop it > from 'live'.

mozc support in the default ISO

2017-09-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Qt4 was removed from the default Ubuntu 17.10 ISO this week as a result of dropping fcitx support there. It looks like the only reason Qt5 is still there is because ibus-mozc recommends mozc-utils-gui which depends on Qt5. mozc is a Japanese input method but we do not pre-install Japanese language