Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-11 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Hi, Thought I might share insight as a relatively new contributor ;) [...] > My experience since moving to bzr branches: > - Much, much faster updating of packages > - Branching packages is possible (e.g. working in a PPA) > - Patches are a little bit harder to do, as the branch doesn't contain >

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-11 Thread Sean McNamara
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > On 11 April 2011 13:22, Scott Ritchie wrote: > [snip] >> I think it's the height of arrogance for us to tell a user that we're >> going to deliberately break his application because it wasn't updated to >> use our new indicator library

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-11 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 11 April 2011 13:22, Scott Ritchie wrote: [snip] > I think it's the height of arrogance for us to tell a user that we're > going to deliberately break his application because it wasn't updated to > use our new indicator library.  "Still working the way it used to" is a > reasonable fall back.

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 04/11/2011 06:26 AM, Martin Owens wrote: > On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 04:22 -0700, Scott Ritchie wrote: >> I think it's the height of arrogance for us to tell a user that we're >> going to deliberately break his application because it wasn't updated >> to >> use our new indicator library. > > We tell

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Reducing number of patches in our packages

2011-04-11 Thread Javier Jardón
On 7 April 2011 15:32, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > About putting it in GTK, I don't know of all the appindicators patches, > but most of the ones I've seen, more or less, are just a bunch of: > > #ifdef INDICATORS > app_indicator_whatever... > #else > gtk_status_icon_whatever... > #endif > Only FYI,

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-11 Thread Javier Jardón
On 8 April 2011 00:23, Robert Ancell wrote: > Can we get all our CD applications using GTK3?  I'm thinking of Firefox > here, we really don't want to have one or two applications requiring > both packages on the CD.. FYI: Firefox GTK+3 port: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 -

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-11 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lundi 11 avril 2011 à 10:36 +1000, Robert Ancell a écrit : > So, I propose that we move all the current packaging branches to using > lp:ubuntu/package_name branches. We have a few branches using this > mode and have had good success with them. Hi, I don't think the situation with those chan

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-11 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:36:51 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: > Some issues that will remain: > - It is possible to screw up the branches so that bzr merge-package > throws a confusing error (I keep doing it). Perhaps we need some hooks > in bzr to stop this from occurring. If it can be broken, it w

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-11 Thread Vishnoo
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 16:21 +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:03 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > The idea was never really dropped but it's not likely it will be an > > official focus for the team, contributions to help getting it working > > better ar

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 04/07/2011 11:52 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Rick Spencer [2011-04-07 18:38 -0700]: >> 1. There are key feature regressions, for example, there is no systray >> support for many important applications. > > For the record, this is currently purely a design decision, not a > technical problem. Unity

Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

2011-04-11 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 19:05 +0200, Martin Pitt a écrit : > > I mean "GNOME" here, as most of the patches we carry for appindicator > are against GNOME applications. > > But it really applies to all other upstreams, starting from hplip, > mumble, etc. Hi, Not that I agree that unity shoul

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-11 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011, Robert Ancell wrote: > - Speed improvements - we can run a greeter without running a full GNOME > session Running a "full" GNOME session sounds like a waste, but it kind of makes sense to run a mini-session to start the essential GNOME services and reuse GNOME infrastructu

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Default e-mail client

2011-04-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 18:59 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 16:08 +0100, Chris Coulson a écrit : > > - I'm not convinced that Evolutions additional features are that > > important to our target users > > Hi, > > There seem to be some disagreement on how useful the ca