Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Seth Arnold
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 03:34:24PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Those issues are easy to fix but I would prefer us to focus on spending our > effort on more user impacting problems so I'm suggesting we revert the > change for the LTS. > > How do other feel like about that? Thanks for raising

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey Steve, Thanks for the reply. Le 23/03/2022 à 20:16, Steve Langasek a écrit : - Any package using compat level 5 does not, for example, get automatic support for default build flags from dpkg-buildflags. This means any binaries built with compat level 5 should be considered insecure

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 03:08:37PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > As part of the release process we perform archive wide rebuilds, and > fix all FTBFS for the release across the full archive. We can't > release Ubuntu without fixing those. This is false, for the record. No Ubuntu release in

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:50:26PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 02:58:27PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > Please don't. There are many bugs in older compat level that may produce > > debs no longer compatible with our OS. Especially around generated > > maintainer

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 18:50, Robie Basak wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 02:58:27PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > Please don't. There are many bugs in older compat level that may produce > > debs no longer compatible with our OS. Especially around generated > > maintainer scripts. > >

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 02:58:27PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Please don't. There are many bugs in older compat level that may produce > debs no longer compatible with our OS. Especially around generated > maintainer scripts. > > It's best to upgrade packaging to compat level 13. Sounds

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 23/03/2022 à 16:08, Dimitri John Ledkov a écrit : Thus yes, there is an explicit mandate, especially for the universe, to be buildable. It can be resolved by fixing & upgrading packaging, or via removal of those packages from the archive. These packages are likely to be ubuntu-specific and/or

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 15:02, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Le 23/03/2022 à 15:58, Dimitri John Ledkov a écrit : > > It's best to upgrade packaging to compat level 13. Sounds like a long > > overdue packaging upkeep. > > Yes it's better, but it requires work, do we have the resources to deal > with

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 23/03/2022 à 15:58, Dimitri John Ledkov a écrit : It's best to upgrade packaging to compat level 13. Sounds like a long overdue packaging upkeep. Yes it's better, but it requires work, do we have the resources to deal with those, especially for universe? Also you claim it produces buggy

Re: Restoring debhelper dh5 compat for the LTS?

2022-03-23 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Please don't. There are many bugs in older compat level that may produce debs no longer compatible with our OS. Especially around generated maintainer scripts. It's best to upgrade packaging to compat level 13. Sounds like a long overdue packaging upkeep. On Wed, 23 Mar 2022, 14:34 Sebastien