Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-15 Thread Marcos Alano
IMHO, Snap Store is more like an app store (like Google Play Store), than a regular package repository (archive.ubuntu.com, a PPA or a third party repository). I think some ground rules and some policies are necessary, but we must avoid burocracy and give freedom to developer, so he/she can create

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/09/2018 11:48 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > For better or worse, the snap store doesn't have teams. Should this be > rephrased in terms of collaboration or something? Well, I'd rather we set the expectation that the snap store learn to use LP teams. Mark -- ubuntu-devel mailing list

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Colin, On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 10:00:28AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 09:37:17AM +, Robie Basak wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:10:08PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Snaps included in images will be installed referencing a per-Ubuntu-series > > > branch.

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Ken VanDine
With snaps we no longer get crash reporting to errors.ubuntu.com. We should add support for snap crash reporting to apport. This isn't all that useful without debug symbols, so we should investigate how we can make builds with debug symbols available as well. Just a couple things I think we

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Ross Gammon
On 02/09/2018 12:18 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:20:53AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> Am Freitag, den 09.02.2018, 09:37 + schrieb Robie Basak: >>> Should this be a side effect subject to change of store policy >>> (which I think is outside the scope of the Ubuntu

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:20:53AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > Am Freitag, den 09.02.2018, 09:37 + schrieb Robie Basak: > > Should this be a side effect subject to change of store policy > > (which I think is outside the scope of the Ubuntu project?), or > > should we define "no devmode" as

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 09.02.2018, 10:30 + schrieb Robie Basak: >  > I think you missed my point. i definitely read it completely differently, yes, sorry for the noise :) ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-devel mailing list

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:20:53AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > Should this be a side effect subject to change of store policy (which > > I > > think is outside the scope of the Ubuntu project?), or should we > > define > > "no devmode" as an Ubuntu policy now? > > this is an already existing

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 09.02.2018, 09:37 + schrieb Robie Basak: >  > > > > As a side effect, since devmode snaps may not be published to the > > stable > > channel, only strict and classic confined snaps may be included. > Should this be a side effect subject to change of store policy (which > I

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 09:37:17AM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:10:08PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Snaps included in images will be installed referencing a per-Ubuntu-series > > branch. This ensures forwards-compatibility by allowing publishing to this > > branch

Re: RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-09 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Steve, Thank you for driving this. I'm looking forward to having leaf desktop packages available and upgradeable via snaps. On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:10:08PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > = Channel availability = > Including software in the default install of Ubuntu implies a certain >

RFC: Ubuntu Seeded Snaps

2018-02-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Dear developers, As I'm sure you know, Canonical has recently been putting a lot of work into the Snap Store[1], a repository for third-party packages that is the successor to the past extras.ubuntu.com[2] and click packages efforts. We are confident that snaps today represent a solid delivery