Re: Giving developers access to requeue package imports [Was: Ubuntu Platform developers BOF session?]

2013-11-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote: I push those commits to the main branch (ubuntu:package) as I go. It's true that the head of the branch doesn't reflect the source package, however the latest tag does, so that's not a real concern. What I like is that when I have a few simple

Re: Patch Pilot Report bzr workflow used.

2013-01-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 16, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: I did quite a few bzr merge proposals. The workflow I used was this: bzr branch lp:~logan/ubuntu/raring/rbbr/0.6.0-6 cd 0.6.0-6 bzr bd -S sbuild ../build-area/*.dsc bzr diff -rtag:last-ubuntu | filterdiff -x .pc* bzr diff -rtag:last-debian

Re: Fixing import errors and discouraging pushes

2012-12-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 03, 2012, at 09:56 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 06:14:19PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 04:07:47PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: I think we should (almost) never allow users to push to ubuntu: or debianlp: branches, or at least, highly

Fixing import errors and discouraging pushes

2012-12-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
pykde4 is currently failing: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/pykde4.html#2012-11-22 08:40:00.891722 I'd like to learn how to fix this in such a way that I can add some suggestions to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/UnderTheHood/Importer/CommonFailures This way, folks can

Re: Fixing import errors and discouraging pushes

2012-12-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 03, 2012, at 03:04 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 04:07:47PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: I think we should (almost) never allow users to push to ubuntu: or debianlp: branches, or at least, highly discourage it. Just do the upload and let the importer create the new

Re: Upgrading pristine-xz on jubany

2012-06-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 13, 2012, at 05:25 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: I heavily rely on package-import. It's no longer 'a demo' but really the only way I develop for ubuntu or debian (to have a nice debdiff). Here, here. -Barry -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com

Repairing a broken package import

2012-06-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
Today I wanted to work on the apport packaging branch, but the importer has been failing on this package: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/apport.html#2012-01-26 06:59:16.573850 I took a look at bug 494481, which is referenced by the importer failure package, but I didn't see anything

Switching over to Quantal

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
Now that Quantal is open for development, what do we need to do to get things switched over, and UDD all happy-like? $ bzr branch ubuntu:precise/debootstrap precise bzr: ERROR: Revision {package-imp...@ubuntu.com-2021132053-gkdptiozkkmpd7p4} not present in

Re: UDD importer making a nuisance of itself with v3 source format branches

2012-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2012, at 01:13 AM, Max Bowsher wrote: I've just had a conversation with cjwatson and slangasek on #ubuntu-release about the importer making a nuisance of itself by declaring a perfectly reasonable commit to be a collision / difference, and replacing it with one of its own. The key

UDD breakdown when building orig.tar.gz from upstream VCS

2012-02-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
I just want to put this out there for the historical record. I think this is a rare enough use case that UDD doesn't need to address, certainly not any time soon, if ever. OTOH, maybe there's an easy workaround. I was working on an NBS for the fgfs-atlas package (LP: #903225). The solution was

Re: UDD breakdown when building orig.tar.gz from upstream VCS

2012-02-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 15, 2012, at 04:35 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: bzr merge-upstream should help here. You can pass it a tarball and a version. Of course, these will have to be different than the previous release (since it's a new upstream version). In your case, I would imagine something like: $ cvs export

Re: Updates to the UPG for UDD

2012-02-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 01, 2012, at 02:10 PM, Martin Pool wrote: I think messages like yours might as well be sent to say ubuntu-devel-discuss (too). Good idea. I'll send an announcement when the new pages are published. Thanks for the review; I'm going to merge the branch now and then dpm will publish the

Re: Improved quilt patch handling

2012-01-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2012, at 01:30 AM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: We've done some testing of it, as well as running through a package merge involving patches with Barry, but none of us do package merges regularly. If you do run into issues or if you think there are ways we can improve the quilt handling

Re: Another quilt use case

2011-11-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 09, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Martin Packman wrote: Sticking any funky branches like this up somewhere may be useful for later reference. See if lp:~barry/ubuntu/precise/claws-mail/udd helps -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list

bzr bd -S --package-merge

2011-10-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
+ package +- Drop libboost1.46-all-dev and provide from boost-mpi-source1.46 +- Adjust debian/rules and debian/control + + -- Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:56:45 -0400 + +boost1.46 (1.46.1-7) unstable; urgency=low + + * control: Fix ungrammatical description for iostreams

Re: bzr get-orig-source

2011-10-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Oct 04, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: I think Jonathan means that if you use -nc (no cleanup of build directory), you have to cd ../build-area/mypkg-1.0 to get to the build directory. Since I usually use sbuild or pbuilder directly

Re: ubuntu: branches lacking history with upstream branches

2011-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: On 09/22/2011 05:14 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: It would certainly be more useful to have ubuntu:gtimelog share history with lp:gtimelog, but I think it would be best in that case if ubuntu:gtimelog only version controlled the debian directory

Re: ubuntu: branches lacking history with upstream branches

2011-09-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 22, 2011, at 07:08 PM, Martin Pool wrote: lp:indicator-power is one example, and the desktop team actually maintain an unofficial packaging branch that does share history: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-power/ubuntu At the moment, gtimelog is another. What I've done recently is to first do

Re: Our biweekly meetings

2011-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
Apologies for the delayed response. Note that we ended up not meeting on Wednesday because it was only Jelmer and myself. ;) Maybe the thing to do is to suspend the meetings until we have a clear agenda for them moving forward. Note that I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing! While

Our biweekly meetings

2011-09-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
At our last meeting, we talked about starting up the UDD bi-weekly meetings again this week (Wednesday Sept 7 @ 1100 UTC). However, both Martin and I are pretty tired of the old format, so let's think about how we can restructure the meeting to be most effective for everyone. If we really don't

UDD stakeholders meeting minutes, and schedule update

2011-07-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
New minutes are posted for the last two UDD stakeholder meetings: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110713 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110727 Also, because of typical (northern hemisphere) summer vacation schedules, we're suspending the meetings through

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: I have a branch in PQM now that adds a version check whenever you access a Launchpad packaging branch (http://pad.lv/609187). I have the feeling there is still a bit of polish needed, but I would like to get some feedback from people

Re: packaging guide

2011-07-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 14, 2011, at 05:26 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: I've been looking over the packaging guide for what needs done to it and issues with UDD it reveals. Thanks very much for your great work on this Jonathan. Daniel asked me to review your branches, which I did, although one of them needs an

UDD meeting change

2011-07-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
Please note the following time change: At least for the rest of the northern summer, we're bumping the UDD meetings up by one hour. They will now be held at 1200 UTC. See you on 13-July. Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list

Vcs branches, debcheckout, and UDD

2011-07-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
There was a discussion today on #ubuntu-devel about some changes I'd made to a few packages for bug 788514 (switch to dh_python2). gedit is a good representative example of the basic issue. What I did was to `bzr branch ubuntu:gedit`, then make the changes to that branch, `bzr bd -S`, and dput

Re: lp:ubuntu/euca2ools import failure

2011-06-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Scott Moser wrote: I am the cause of the euca2ools import failure http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/euca2ools.html . I'd like to have all the lp:ubuntu/suite/euca2ools branches up to date. I really like the functionality that udd provides, but have

Re: Ubuntu Packaging Guide

2011-06-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 03, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: From what I understand, there are people doing things all sorts of ways with quilt, and I really don't want to have to learn all the ways people are using quilt with bzr and try to figure out *which* way any particular package is using that

Re: Status of documentation

2011-05-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 20, 2011, at 05:33 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 11:46 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: A couple of quick notes on UDD documentation. At UDS-O, we agreed that the current wiki documentation should be deleted, with pointers added to Daniel's Ubuntu Packaging Guide. Even

Re: UDD with new upstream version

2011-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 14, 2011, at 03:29 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: the bzr-builddeb in natty can use the watch file. If you have a watch file it will use the watch file to download the upstream release. The --version argument is also optional if you have a watch file; it will default to the latest

Re: UDD with new upstream version

2011-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 14, 2011, at 03:51 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I'll do that. The wiki is semi-obsolete. As soon as the new Ubuntu packaging guide gets a URL, I'll be removing the wiki pages and pointing to it (which contains the latest content, and which I'll also update). Looks like Jelmer already did \o

Re: discussion of ubuntu-desktop packaging branches

2011-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: We could do that. I actually usually do bzr bd -S first, and only debcommit -r once that was successful, but I can just ignore the warning :) I usually do things this way too. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature --

Re: Meeting minutes and possible meeting time change

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Martin Pool wrote: On 13 April 2011 01:24, Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: Martin, I think you own the gcal event.  Can you make the change so that we're meeting at 1100 UTC for the next meeting (20-Apr)? OK, done, that's next Wednesday: morning in the US

Re: Meeting minutes and possible meeting time change

2011-04-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Apr 12, 2011, at 01:29 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: 1100 UTC is excellent for me :). 2100UTC is about 11pm for me, which is possible, but a bit unlikely. My family is certainly usually asleep before 10, but lately so am I. If there are no

Re: Summary from UDD meeting 2011-03-23

2011-03-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2011, at 09:10 AM, Robert Collins wrote: We have in the past fallen into a trap of aiming for 100% in each step *before* we move onto the next one. That means we're well past the point of getting a net benefit (think 80-20 rule) by the time we start moving on. These import problems

Re: missed meeting

2011-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 24, 2011, at 06:11 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: The meetings have been at 10 CET here, so it's not quite as late as midnight, but it is well past the work day. The meetings are at 1600 EST so I could easily go earlier, though I'm often slammed with meetings on Wednesdays until about 1200

Re: Import layout of Quilt v3 packages

2011-02-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 09, 2011, at 07:57 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: meaning all patches are already applied in the source branch. -1 You can maintain the property as well by adding a hook that applies the patches at checkout time. (Even that hook is not strictly necessary, as debuild will automatically apply

Re: Import layout of Quilt v3 packages

2011-02-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 08, 2011, at 06:00 PM, Martin Pool wrote: At the moment it seems to me we need to either: import to looms and mandate using looms; or check in things with everything expanded and provide glue that will keep the quilt data up to date with the wt. (Perhaps they should be considered derived

Re: Import layout of Quilt v3 packages

2011-02-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 08, 2011, at 02:23 PM, Max Bowsher wrote: I think we should go ahead and change the package importer _now_ to revert to importing 3.0 (quilt) source packages with patches *not* applied. When it does so, it should probably write a debian/source/local-options file containing unapply-patches.

UDD stakeholders meeting minutes 2011-01-26

2011-01-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
Minutes of the UDD stakeholders meeting 2011-01-26 2100 UTC are now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110126 There's been lots of excellent progress, so please do read the page. And remember, all are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-meeting. -Barry signature.asc

Making bzr commit more like debcommit

2011-01-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
We have 'bzr commit' and we have 'debcommit'. Currently, the UDD guidelines talk about both, but for consistency, I'd like to standardize on recommending 'bzr commit'. One feature that debcommit has: DEBCOMMIT(1) DEBCOMMIT(1) NAME

UDD stakeholders meeting minutes 2010-12-01

2010-12-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20101201 -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel

Re: udd at uds-n

2010-11-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi Martin, thanks for posting this update, and apologies for taking so long to get around to reading it. On Nov 17, 2010, at 08:06 PM, Martin Pool wrote: At the end of that discussion we picked two specific items for the bzr team: * speed * loom support, on lp and within bzr, and connecting

Re: UDD survey results

2010-11-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
First of all, thanks Martin for conducting the poll and collating the results. It'll be an interesting baseline to compare against at future UDS's. On Nov 18, 2010, at 06:23 PM, Martin Pool wrote: Bottom line: *Heaps* to do, but some encouraging feedback. The priorities I draw from this are

Re: UDD survey results

2010-11-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
Oh, sorry, one other thing. Would it be useful to link to the survey results and your summary from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment ? -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: Quilt artefacts in source package branches (was Re: Upstream in Launchpad adds confusion)

2010-11-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 05, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Max Bowsher wrote: Either people should not remove it (and furthermore keep it up to date) or the UDD importer ought to not place it in the branches in the first place. Probably both! It's probably good practice to revert any changes to the .pc directory that might

UDD stakeholders meeting minutes 2010-11-03

2010-11-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
The minutes of this week's UDD stakeholders meeting is now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20101103 -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Upstream in Launchpad adds confusion

2010-11-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
So, I made a patch against ubuntu:python-distutils-extra and submitted a merge proposal. https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/ubuntu/natty/python-distutils-extra/670188-ftbfs/+merge/39993 A few interesting things happened. As part of my branch, I removed the .pc directory from bzr. IIUC, that

Stakeholders meeting minutes for 2010-10-20

2010-10-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
Minutes from the yesterday's UDD stakeholders meeting are now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20101020 Don't forget to that we have three sessions scheduled for UDS-N. Looking forward to seeing you there. Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979

2010-10-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 05, 2010, at 09:16 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: I've been thinking about it, and I'm pretty confident that what you are trying to do is inherently criss-cross. Specifically consider a semi-ideal case: This is all fascinating, and while I have nothing constructive to add, I wonder: does

Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979

2010-10-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Oct 05, 2010, at 09:37 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: Now, I would imagine that the *interesting* merges are not clean like this. Why would you really care about merging if debian isn't adding patches to the upstream code? (Other than

Re: UDD health check?

2010-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 13, 2010, at 04:20 PM, Elliot Murphy wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com wro but it seems to have some advantages for the way I work. This is cool, thanks for 'splaining. Thanks to you too. It's great to get another perspective on things. Yes

Re: [Launchpad-users] upstream + packaging + looms + lp != happiness

2010-05-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 28, 2010, at 05:17 PM, James Westby wrote: All the threads disappeared when the branch was pulled to machine heresy. Maybe Launchpad doesn't support looms yet? Maybe the stacking is messing things up? Any other suggestions or comments? No idea, sorry. Have you filed a bug for

upstream + packaging + looms + lp != happiness

2010-05-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
Computer Janitor is my poster child for the UDD use case where the upstream is also the packaging branch. lp:computer-janitor has the debian/ directory in it but that's unsatisfying for several reasons. So I wanted to experiment with using a loom to manage several threads (from bottom to top):

Re: UDD @ Portland

2010-02-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 11, 2010, at 02:57 AM, James Westby wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:33:27 +1100, Martin Pool m...@canonical.com wrote: I'd like to let looms progress, but not (unless james or others feel differently) add them into the dependency chain for getting UDD going. No, we don't have to add it to

Re: Feedback on merging via bzr

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: This can probably be arranged, I guess. File a bug. Patches likely welcome :-) For now: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/509901 -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list

Re: Feedback on merging via bzr

2010-01-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 17, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: I spent some time over the holidays giving merging via bzr and the UDD tools. I understand that development of the tools to support this is still a work in progress and the much of this feedback probably represents work that you already know

Re: Feedback on merging via bzr

2010-01-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 17, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: I spent some time over the holidays giving merging via bzr and the UDD tools. I understand that development of the tools to support this is still a work in progress and the much of this feedback probably represents work that you already know

Building a new package the UDD way (was Re: First impressions (long))

2010-01-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 11, 2009, at 05:12 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I think I've actually patched my first Ubuntu package, with much thanks to Colin and James W for their help. Having done this from essentially no knowledge of how to do it, and no experience with the tools, James suggested I email this list

Re: Recipes vs. Looms vs. pipelines

2010-01-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Resurrecting a thread from a few weeks ago... On Dec 17, 2009, at 01:26 PM, Aaron Bentley wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: I like this because there are no extra directories to worry about, and I can delete the loom directory in one rm-rf

Re: Recipes vs. Looms vs. pipelines

2009-12-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 16, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Aaron Bentley wrote: There are a lot of similarities. Some more differences are: - - automatic storing/restoring of uncommitted changes with switch-pipe. - - uncommitted changes in another pipe can be merged. These are very definitely advantages of pipes. I

Re: Recipes vs. Looms vs. pipelines

2009-12-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:15 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: I would mention that for packaging, I think you really do want to have 'upstream' as the first thread, which doesn't work with the pipeline model, since a given branch can only participate in one pipeline. Not just for packaging. When I'm

Re: Recipes vs. Looms vs. pipelines

2009-12-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 16, 2009, at 01:28 PM, Aaron Bentley wrote: With looms, you get a huge proliferation of threads. I think the only real difference is that threads tend to be less visible than branches. For me, that was a big difference and one of the reasons I currently favor looms over pipelines. We

First impressions (long)

2009-12-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi all, I think I've actually patched my first Ubuntu package, with much thanks to Colin and James W for their help. Having done this from essentially no knowledge of how to do it, and no experience with the tools, James suggested I email this list with some feedback and suggestions. Remember,