[Ubuntu-phone] Publishing Systemd App Launching

2017-02-03 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, Currently the silo that changes Ubuntu App Launch over to supporting systemd is publishing. This means that all of your applications will start running as systemd jobs instead of Upstart jobs. I imagine most people were expecting this to happen as it puts us on pace to remove Upstart and Cl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Development - Porting Ubuntu phone

2016-10-14 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 12:09 +, Jerry P wrote: > We would like to port Ubuntu phone to an  ARM Cortex A7 SoC with 256 > MB RAM and NO GPU support. We can strip down most of the graphics > intense features and applications.  The phone mostly will be used by > Elderly people with very limited func

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bileto-announce] ANNOUNCEMENT: Bileto no longer blocks on no-change rebuilds

2016-09-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 09:46 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > In other words, it happens quite often to me to propose merges which > affects tests only (no code changes to any installed files), and > getting > these changes in is IMHO unnecessarily hard. > > Would it be possible for landers to set

[Ubuntu-phone] Forcing an output resolution

2016-08-14 Thread Ted Gould
Hey folks, I got a Nexdock and plugged it into my N4, which is really cool¹. The problem I'm having is that it is misdetecting the resolution of the display. It looks like it is trying 1080 on the 720 display. Is there a way that I can force Mir to change the output resolution? Also, the m10 does

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Moving to Android 6 base

2016-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
The reason to use the Android drivers is that in many cases they're the only drivers that exist for many of the chips phones are using today. The drivers are (generally speaking) owned by the chip manufacturers, not by Android/Google, they're just using the Android interfaces for writing them. Thos

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence and icons

2016-06-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 09:40 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: > What is the plan here, will there be desktop icons and device icons > for  > packages? Will the Unity 8 desktop just have everything with square  > icons cropped to a squircle? How does icon consistency work across > form  > factors? I think tha

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] He called my bluff!

2016-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 17:41 +0100, Gareth France wrote: > I am now writing this on 'what is left' of my £500 laptop after my  > toddler in a fit of temper decided to drag all 17" of it off the > kitchen  > worktop and let it smash onto the floor! Although technically working > I  > personally would

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Libertine

2016-04-28 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 22:28 +0200, Christian Hahn wrote: > I understand: insecure, untrusty stuff from the last century, but why > shouldn't this stuff run in one Xmir session. Everything that is running under the same X server can steal stuff from anything else running on the same X server. By hav

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Local copy of the SD reproduced movies

2016-04-12 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 14:57 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > To make things more complicated, this exception should not be made on > the content type, but on the receiving application: if one implements > another video player application (in a normally confined click > package) > and it's asked to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clear webapp cache

2016-03-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:53 -0400, Alexandre Abreu wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ferdinand Holzner > gmail.com> wrote: > > is it possible to clear the webapp cache, if something goes wrong? > > > > Sometimes i have trouble with the twitter webapp. It crashes and i > > think the only w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application losts its dispatchers

2016-02-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 18:03 +0100, Costales wrote: > I'm catching in uNav the URLs like: http://unav-go.github.io > > The dispatcher is here: > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~costales/unav/trunk/view/head:/app-dispa > tcher.json > > But I don't know why, that dispatcher was lost. The URLs are openi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mycroft Skills on Ubuntu Phone

2015-10-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 16:28 -0300, Jonathan D'Orleans wrote: > Dial Call usecase: > 1. Turn on my phone (or Ubuntu device) and login > 2. Say: "Mycroft, call my wife" > 3. Mycroft do a Dial Call to my wife's phone number For both of these cases you'll want to query the addressbook. It is stored i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Notes app, add a passphrase to protect a note

2015-10-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 16:12 +0200, Marco Graziotti wrote: > You think that it's possible to import "LastPass" in "Note"? > I saw that there are two apps called "LastPass" in Ubuntu Sotre. Both > have a proprietary licence. > Are you using "LastPass"? Yes, I do use LastPass, you can find out mor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Notes app, add a passphrase to protect a note

2015-10-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 13:10 +0200, Marco Graziotti wrote: > I want suggest to the Ubuntu core app developers to add a feature in > "Notes app". Sometimes users store sensible data inside a note, like pin > or password, I think it's really useful to allow users add a passphrase > to protect a no

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 09:52 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 04.10.2015 o 05:58, Ted Gould pisze: > > Sure, for P2P you'd have to have something running in the background to > > automatic discovery and figuring out the diffs and polling the other > > hosts. I&

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 05:12 +0200, Sturm Flut wrote: > On 10/04/2015 04:27 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > There is really no reason in this case, this is clearly a case of > > getting the cloud service to send push notifications. And for OwnCloud > > that could b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
There is really no reason in this case, this is clearly a case of getting the cloud service to send push notifications. And for OwnCloud that could be as simple as a plugin for OwnCloud. Here's a diagram on how it should work: http://www.slideshare.net/tedgould/ubuntu-application-lifecycle-519785

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Contact sync (call for testing)

2015-09-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 15:48 -0300, Renato Filho wrote: > 1 - Account migration >Your existing Google account(s) will be converted to use the new > infrastructure and this will start automatically after installing the > packages and reboot the device (see below). >The instructions will appe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] QEMU Nexus 4

2015-09-10 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 19:11 +0200, K1773R wrote: > Did anyone successfully emulate a Nexus 4 with QEMU for building? > Compiling on the make takes too long, so i'd like to offload it to my > servers. Haven't tried it myself, but some folks on the Snappy list mentioned building using a cloud inst

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:06 -0400, Christian Dywan wrote: > How about instead, if you really find that MainView vs Rectangle is 5s > slower, you file a bug, and we can investigate before you start > re-implementing everything only to find that it will be slow again > once it's complete? Sure, cert

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 18:45 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > > The preloader can also create components instead of just parsing them. > Which adds another > performance boost compared to the QML cache. So it seems like the component creation time is the biggest win here, but it seems to vary o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:25 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > > This stage is not sufficient since there is no exec() performed > > here. This removes the possibility of per-process address space > > layout randomization (ASLR). All processes on the syst

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Performance] process message+

2015-07-02 Thread Ted Gould
DBus daemon is just a bus, so it only uses CPU when someone asks it to. It's likely that someone is misbehaving on the bus more than anything. You can call dbus-monitor to get a dump of what is happening on the bus at that time and that would probably give more information to be able to debug it.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] opening files imported through content-hub

2015-04-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 22:59 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 04/18/2015 12:11 AM, Darren Smith wrote: > [...] > > I then try to open the file using quazip but get denied by apparmor: > > > > Apr 17 21:56:31 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [226697.166126]type=1400 > > audit(1429304191 > > .4

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Media Player

2015-04-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2015-04-19 at 11:43 +0200, sturmflut wrote: > Apps are launched via the "ubuntu-app-launch" command. The following > example should point in the right direction: > > phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ubuntu-app-launch mediaplayer-app > video:///home/phablet/Videos/big_buck_bunny_480p_stereo.ogg >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] webapps and script injection

2015-04-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2015-04-14 at 04:39 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote: > Another question re security for webapps - url-dispatcher. Whilst I'm > loving using this, it's also clear how easy it is to create a webapp > that redirects traffic from other places, such as scopes. While I'm > making a point of listi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Add sources to the news scope

2015-04-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-04-06 at 08:53 +0200, carl verstraete wrote: > Is it possible to add new sources for the news scope or today scope. > I'm from Belgium, and I'm not interested in Spanisch news. > I would like to add Belgian News sources. > Is it possible? Unfortunately not today, the aggregator scop

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] using a different build for devel images

2015-03-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 11:56 +, John Lenton wrote: > Additionally, I'd like to have debug logs in devel, and just info logs > out of that. Is there a way of doing that too? I have this job that I wrote for system-settings to turn on logging when you're in developer mode. Seb didn't want it in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Scopes default store behaviour

2015-03-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 10:11 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > My proposal is to find some simple way to give the developer of a > package some control over this option: whether to show the package in > question in the store as a scope or as an app. It seems to me the simplest is just to always a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sound -indicator UX suggestion

2015-02-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 05:03 -0800, dedreuil thibaut wrote: > Yes Marco got it. I was talking about the "volume" notification > bubble. 99% of the time i am aware i am modifying the volume and i > just want to know what is my current volume and what is my future > volume. Placing it in the top pane

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sound -indicator UX suggestion

2015-02-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 21:11 +, Thibaut Dedreuil_monet wrote: > I am suggesting to place the sound-indicator also in the header of the > dash as shown in the attached mockup. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here, and I think your mockup might be slightly corrupted. The sound indicator d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Notice for Application Developers regarding Full shell rotation landing soon

2015-02-02 Thread Ted Gould
Is there general guidance about how scopes will be displayed in landscape? Will the two column view be used in most cases? I do realize I could just install the PPA and find out, but I thought the question/discussion might be generally useful for developers. :-) Ted On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 05:10

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Heads up: default app namespace format has changed

2015-01-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 20:03 -0200, Martin Albisetti wrote: > Now that we're approaching convergence with the desktop on the one > hand, and Snappy on the other, it becomes more common (or in the case > of Snappy, the only way!) to interact with apps from a command line. > The reality is, the rever

[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone User: Manager at Braum's

2014-12-22 Thread Ted Gould
Around here we have an ice cream shop call Braum's¹ where yesterday we went to celebrate my son's birthday with his aunt and uncle. When I was checking out I was asked "Have you seen that Ubuntu software on phones?" After realizing the question was prompted by my Ubuntu hat I played dumb a little

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Some problems with vivid on a Nexus 4

2014-12-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 13:04 +, Chris Croome wrote: > Another issue I have is the battery draining very fast, the graph goes > down at almost 45 degrees sometimes, with the load average around 3 > (top shows 2 CPU cores) even when I have no apps open and the screen is > off and the phone is in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Webapp questions

2014-12-10 Thread Ted Gould
ou can see an example in the small webapp I did: https://github.com/ted-gould/nespresso-webapp We do plan to have a user override for this in settings, currently on the TODO list. Currently if you install a webapp that handles the URL it will always handle the URL. > o Is there any

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Usage of Online Accounts by windowless processes (account-polld, sync-monitor, scopes...)

2014-12-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 14:01 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > There are a few processes which don't have a connection to Mir but are > using OA; I know of account-polld and sync-monitor, plus the scopes via > the unity-scopes-api, but there might be more. When these processes > request a token and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] vivid landings

2014-11-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 01:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 12:16:44PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:25 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:14:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Fixes for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] vivid landings

2014-11-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:25 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:14:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Fixes for specific bugs targeted for our upcoming customer-oriented release > > should continue to be landed to ubuntu-rtm/14.09. Anything else that is not > > being land

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Manually setting WIFI connection

2014-09-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 16:52 +0300, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: > On 26.09.2014 13:37, Brendan Donegan wrote: > > System Settings > Wi-Fi > Connect to hidden network (is this title > > confusing?) > Enter the SSID and make sure to choose WPA & WPA2 Personal > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Ma

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push Daemon, Account Notifications and Scopes, Location service

2014-09-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 18:07 -0300, Roberto Alsina wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > By we here you mean that you're going to send the data to the > messaging menu and let it determine whether to show it or no

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push Daemon, Account Notifications and Scopes, Location service

2014-09-16 Thread Ted Gould
By we here you mean that you're going to send the data to the messaging menu and let it determine whether to show it or not, correct? Ted On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 19:33 +0100, John Lenton wrote: > (But we will) > > > On 16 Sep 2014 19:29, "Roberto Alsina" > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2

[Ubuntu-phone] Toy: ubuntu-app-test

2014-09-12 Thread Ted Gould
People have generally felt a little bit restricted with our application lifecycle/containment and wanted to "just run it" more than once. While I will continuously fight back on that as part of the shipping system, I thought it might be fun to make something that would allow for that. So I made a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Toolkit: preparing to remove dependency towards Unity.Actions

2014-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 17:21 +0300, Zsombor Egri wrote: > We are evaluating the removal of Unity Actions dependency from the > toolkit. This would mean that the components used now by the toolkit > will appear as components exported by the toolkit itself (i.e not from > Unity.Actions). These compone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 22:51 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: > Another approach I was thinking of is allowing multiple plugins of the > same account type exist (so every app would ship their own copy) and > deduplicating based on type and compatibility version. This has some > technical difficulties

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-08-28 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 19:38 +0200, Daniel Holm wrote: > > No, there would need to be an OwnCloud module that would send Push > > Messages to a subscribed device so that its push helper could setup > > downloads (with appropriate config to whether it should download on > > cell service or wait f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-08-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 16:54 +0200, Fabio Colella wrote: > There is also the problem of background syncing. Is any service > currently available for that? Because it would be really weird if the > user has to wait with the app open while up or downloading.. No, there would need to be an OwnCloud mo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] HUD

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 23:04 +0530, sampth kumar krishnan wrote: > What happened to the heads up display that used to exist on the trusty > platform? Is it coming back in the next few builds before the rtm? No :-( It got killed by the switch to give applications full control of the bottom swipe,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 18.08.14

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 19:36 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: > The ubuntu-app-launch cgroup-enabled issue that's > causing many test failures in our infrastructure has been locked-on and > confirmed, with the most probable current root cause located in > cgmanager or upstart itself. Since th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: Landers! CI Train redeployed to support the RTM distribution + more

2014-08-14 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 22:14 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: > 1. Whenever a new landing is added there is a new column that needs to > be filled from now on. The column name is "Target distribution". From > the drop-down menu you can currently select one from "ubuntu/utopic", > "ubuntu/trus

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application crash on utopic but not trusty

2014-07-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 17:34 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 08.07.2014 17:25, Robert Schroll wrote: > > How does one do that? Every time I try to launch an application from an > > ssh session, I get > > > >> QUbuntu: Could not create application instance > >> Aborted (core dumped) > > > > Obvi

[Ubuntu-phone] Extra desktop files in application directory

2014-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
Hello folks, Last week we had an image or two where the desktop hook in the Click package was running instead of the one in Ubuntu App Launch. The symptom at the time was that packages couldn't be uninstalled. That is fixed in the current images and all promoted images. One lingering result of th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 08:36 +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > A check is then done to ensure that what you are trying to build > contains latest archive content *as the first step* (and so, not after > an hours or more into the landing process). The build fails > immediately and tells you need to check

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 14:33 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think in that case, we do want changes from the archive to be landed > directly to the upstream branches in question, which I believe is already at > least somewhat automated. Could you expand on your concern regarding "wrong > versions

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] split greeter revert

2014-06-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 11:19 -0500, Kevin Gunn wrote: > After landing we've identified a handful of knock-on problems, mostly > around synchronization, listed here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter-session-broadcast/+bug/1328187 It seems that most of the items there are things we alread

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 00:23 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > > That'll collect the additional apport data and put them into errors for > > grouping. I imagine that most devs are checking errors for stack traces of > > their packages already, and that way we can see if they happen on specific > > devices/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > Unfortunately I get a bunch of crash files in /var/crash, and need to > do some correlation to figure out which app crashed it. I'll modify my > script to look for files in /var/crash after every application > start/stop cycle and pause so I ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
While I think you already got an answer to your immediate question, I think that this sounds interesting and perhaps something that could be integrated with the application startup testing that QA is setting up. Would be nice to have a screenshot there, and perhaps invalidate results based on it.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:47 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > will all images receive a update with the new name? > Because the SDK uploads a script to the phone that uses the Python API > as we discussed > before. > I just need to be aware of that, so I can change my python script to > fallback

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-24 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 19:54 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > No reason to take on tech debt if we don't have to. Certainly if a bunch of > > people reply that it's an issue it's not impossible to do that. But cru

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 05:54 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Gould > wrote: > > If for some reason this seriously effects you in a > negative way, please speak up now! > > Can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-23 Thread Ted Gould
Thu, 2014-05-22 at 12:49 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > Well, won't it break all existing click apps when the update is > > > installed? Or will the update regenerate all installed click .desktop > > > files for the user as well? If not, then at least a symlink will

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
t; files for the user as well? If not, then at least a symlink will be > required until they are all regenerated. > > > On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:43 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > No reason to take on tech debt if we don't have to. Certainly if a > > bunch o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
ere a particularly good reason to not provide a symlink, or a > wrapper script that issues a deprecation warning when run, for > compatibility? > > On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:13 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > > > Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu Ap

[Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
Hello Folks, Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu App Launch! We've discussed it before and I've got a MR ready for UAL to make the naming change so that we're ready to move away from Upstart as our Init system. I'd like to work with folks on running sed through their code and landing thi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 09.05.14

2014-05-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 18:23 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: > What interesting things can be seen in #19? > - A new unity8 has been released, currently dropping support for HUD > from the bottom edge Is there a way to activate HUD in the mean time? We'll need to be able to do that so that

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 08:38 -0700, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > Also a carrier may want to enable/disable certain services (think 4g > > > tethering) for e

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 11:36 -0400, Tony Espy wrote: > On 05/01/2014 09:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould >> <mailto:t...@ubuntu.com>> wrote: > > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 09:20 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould > > wrote: > &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env > > vari

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env variables, > like the dconf db/profile to use the customized dconf keys. It seems like this should be the default, not something in the custom tarball. Is there any reason we'd not w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 22:08 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > One of the customizations we've identified as necessary is support for > upstart jobs or overrides shipped in the custom tarball. Currently, > we ship some upstart jobs in the ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks > package, but those should be se

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing app metadata

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 22:23 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > There's also other potential issues with confinement of apps and such, I > think. Do we have plans to deal with all those issues to continue > supporting quick lists in the converged Unity8 experience? Or is it > going to be a necessary loss

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 13:21 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > The cache also doesn't solve the problem of deciding whether to use > inline translations in .desktop files, or to use .mo files for the > translations. All it does is move the parsing to another point in time. > The performance and battery

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:09 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 09:52 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > > > Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16 13:02 -0400]: > > > We're talking about one app loading the translations for all apps. > > > > FWIW, that might be too slow regardless of which approach we u

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Debugging support in UAL

2014-04-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 12:31 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > with Unity8 on the desktop and on our devices there will be only one way > to start a application. I think that we should look at this slightly differently: The system requires knowledge and management of applications from before they'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 11:22 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > I think that the issue isn't with start but with stop. > Autopilot is calling stop and expecting the app to be stopped > after that call returns

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:10 +1200, Thomi Richards wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Leo Arias > wrote: > > > (Bill) > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu/+bug/1297900 > > -> seems to only impact on tests

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 08.04.14

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 03:08 -0300, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2014, 18:26 +0200 schrieb Didier Roche: > > > >> ** When using multiple webapps they crash randomly, if there is only > >> one app remain

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Error Tracker retracing armhf crashes

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:15 -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > Last week the Ubuntu Error tracker infrastructure, thanks to the hard > work of the Canonical Web Ops team (particularly David Ames), switched > from running on specific hardware systems to using Canonical's internal > cloud. An exciting ben

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 25.03.14

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:09 -0600, Selene Scriven wrote: > - After setting an alarm, the time indicator shows that it is > actually set for a different time zone. For example, I'm in > UTC-6. I set an alarm for 1am. The alarm actually gets set > for 7am instead. The "edit alar

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Qt 5.2 - Events are queued when rendering blocked

2014-03-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 20:19 +0100, Thomas Voß wrote: > Right now, we are considering the second alternative as it is much > less intrusive. In the shell, we will leverage Mir's input event > filter chains and offload reacting to certain kind of input events to > a thread independent of Qt's UI thr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 15:08 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > On the front of data, we haven't seen much new. For instance we only > know about a single case where this "all halt" event has negative > impact; so please speak up if you are affected. Generally if you want to know the impact to me you

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 16:16 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak > wrote: > > Hi, > > > On 12.03.2014 18:00, Didier Roche wrote: > > > We might need to have some view on what's seen on the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 13:02 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > What we're doing for alarms is having the application provide a URL that > > gets called if the user clicks on the notification. So the clock app sets up >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 14:34 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: > - on bootup we see the last song played before last shutdown > - not likely a problem in any volatile storage situation > > - after the user logs out we see what was playing when they were logged > in > > - the user is logged in, but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 02:50 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Manuel de la Pena > wrote: > > I don't like the fact that udm is dooimd the click package installations but > > it is done because there is no guarantee that the scope will be around to > > deal with the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Summarizing up issues on current touch 4.4 based image

2014-02-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 12:00 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: > As told yesterday in landing team email, we are blocking any landing > impacting Touch right now to get all focus and energy on fixing issues > without introducing newer one. Not trying to be an ass about it, but isn't the process to drop

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 13:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > Thanks Ted! > I suggest addint this to testplan-to-wiki: > > -e "s/\(.*\)<\/a>/[[\\1|\\2]]/" \ > > so that HTML links can be processed. Cool, I added it to my version and updated the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tes

[Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, As folks are surely aware we're having to create a bunch of acceptance test plans and merge policies to be used as part of the "CI Train" process. For my part of that I went ahead and put them into the project repositories so that new tests can easily be added as the features land¹ instead

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 16:50 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 02/04/2014 04:13 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > >> I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I > >> couldn't underst

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I couldn't > understand if it's suitable for my case: > > " * Start an untrusted helper for a specific @type on a given > * @appid. We don't know how that is done specifically, as

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 18:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > I'm now facing the choice of how to implement all the above; my original > idea was to execute the plugin with aa-exec-click, but before jumping on > that solution I'd like to double check with a wider audience. I've been > told that the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multiple frameworks for apps

2014-01-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 11:48 -0600, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > "frameworks": "ubuntu-sdk-13.10, ubuntu-14.04-qml" Don't have strong opinions on the rest of the thread, but can we please make this: "frameworks": ["ubuntu-sdk-13.10", "ubuntu-14.04-qml"] Would hate to embed another format

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: ANN: Ubuntu Core/Touch Android 4.4 support & touch engineering platform/devices/hardware going forward

2014-01-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 19:19 +0400, Зонов Роман wrote: > Sorry. but your decision about manta is minimum...strange. IMHO, manta > is very important for development. Not because I have one, because > manta is a tablet with 10-inch display. Manta is an ideal tablet for > UT and, IMHO, development mus

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
n 7, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 11:51 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > > To start off this amazing new year, I wanted to share a slide deck > > that outlines two exciting improvements to our engineering process > > that we will roll ou

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 08:34 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: > (I wish we can enforce maintenance branch around > lp:foo/, but I guess I'll save the debate for later ;)) For those who are interested I attached my script that we use to do this. It makes it easy and makes Didier smile, best script in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clock App Alarms Review and Current Status

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 00:23 +0100, Nekhelesh Ramananthan wrote: > Please correct me if I am wrong here but I believed that since the > core apps are packaged as click packages on the phone, they are not > affected by the feature freeze deadline. But I am guessing the > ubuntu-ui-toolkit package wo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emulator + Autopilot = Win

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 14:50 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Whilst the emulator improvement work is on-going, I've spend some time > getting autopilot tests execution using the emulator running. Awesome. I knew something cool was brewing from your questions in IRC ;-) > I've also wrote a

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