Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [help] e4.5 can't find my location after update to ota12

2016-08-01 Thread Thomas Voß
We've had multiple reports about location detection being broken with OTA 12 and we are investigating into the issue. I will post updates on this thread. Thanks, Thomas On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Frank Prat wrote: > Hi all > > i've got the same problem on my Meizu pro

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Pokemon Go

2016-07-20 Thread Thomas Voß
On Jul 20, 2016 4:15 PM, "Alan Bell" wrote: > > On 15/07/16 14:56, Alberto Mardegan wrote: >> >> On 07/15/2016 12:41 PM, Sam Bull wrote: >>> >>> The first thing I'd like to see changed, is that the accuracy of >>> the location should consider the time that has passed since

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory..

2016-07-16 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:25 PM, รัชนันท์ ศรีรัตนเมธ wrote: > Hello, > > I port Ubuntu Touch to LG L90 Dual which has 1 GB of memory. This means I > also suffer from all problems about memory people have with BQ Aquaris 4.5. > Being somewhat experienced with the system, I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Pokemon Go

2016-07-15 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 07/15/2016 12:41 PM, Sam Bull wrote: >> The first thing I'd like to see changed, is that the accuracy of >> the location should consider the time that has passed since that >> location recording. E.g. A

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Pokemon Go

2016-07-15 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Alan Bell wrote: > > > On 15/07/16 14:02, Dave Morley wrote: >> >> Alan your logic seems to be flawed, I get gps on google maps in the > > no no no. Google maps is fine, always. It subscribes to updates. This is > about things that do *not*

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compass MX4

2016-04-12 Thread Thomas Voß
rom the Android BSP, yes. > Do you know of plans to get Pressure sensor readings as well? > Nope, please file a bug against launchpad.net/qtubuntu-sensors Cheers, Thomas > Best Regards, > Felipe. > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compass MX4

2016-04-12 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey, short answer: not yet, but we are working on exposing a compass sensor. You probably want to follow the progress on https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1099. Please note that the silo requires custom device tarballs at this point, I can see if I can provide one for the mx4.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] method satellite in sensor status

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey Cesar, thanks for clarifying :) I think I have a better understanding of your issue now. So to clarify: GPS works without accepting the Here terms of services. However, standalone GPS without any sort of assistance data is quite slow to acquire a fix, if it manages to do so at all. It usually

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] method satellite in sensor status

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey Cesar, thanks for your question. On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Cesar Herrera wrote: > I think it is used satellite. But it shoudn't be compulsory connect to Nokia > HERE and accept their conditions to use GPS. I'm not sure what you are asking exactly, so trying to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] method satellite in sensor status

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Alan Bell wrote: > > > On 08/04/16 16:16, Cesar Herrera wrote: > > I think it is used satellite. But it shoudn't be compulsory connect to Nokia > HERE and accept their conditions to use GPS. > Cheers, > Cesar > > > so, SensorsStatus is a third

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] uNav status

2016-03-24 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 14:51 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: >> On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 19:47 +0100, Costales wrote: >> > >> > >> >- Don't use 2 GPS apps at the same time. The GPS will not work for booth >> >of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] uNav is killed by the system when it asks for geolocation (rc-proposed)

2016-03-22 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Costales wrote: > Hi! > > Testers in rc-proposed are reporting this issue (this is not happen in the > current stable): > > - Open uNav. > - Center position. > - uNav is killed (sometimes). > > Usually when uNav has a dump, uNav stops the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-03-14 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Thomas, > > > 2016-02-29 16:38 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com>: >> >> We will introduce an API for applications that allows >> navigation/tracker a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] gps not working since OTA-9.1

2016-03-08 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: > > > On 07/03/16 19:51, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote: >> >> Hi >> The GPS toggle will be removed from the battery settings. The GPS chipset >> already goes into powersave mode automatically when not in use and 2 >> settings

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] gps not working since OTA-9.1

2016-03-07 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Peter Boehm wrote: > hello phone-team, > > i am on meizu mx4 ubuntu 15.04. after installing OTA-9.1 on 24.02.2016 > my gps is not working anmore. sensorstatus reports that there are no > supported backends. how can i check whats wrong? any

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Alan Bell <alanb...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > > On 29/02/16 21:29, Thomas Voß wrote: >> >> With all due respect, this is not a bug in the platform. Are you, 2 >> other people, and others experiencing an issue? Certai

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
mentioned here last week in person, and I got the impression that we were in agreement. Cheers, Thomas > Best regards. > > > -- > Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Alan Pope <alan.p...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
ll towers or > hotspots. > > Best Regards, > Felipe. > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Alan Pope <alan.p...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Royden Yates <royden.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, 29 February 2016 21:46:02 CET, Alan Pope > <alan.p...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonica

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
> > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Alan Pope <alan.p...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bell <

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Alan Pope <alan.p...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bell <alanb...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >>> it isn'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
We will introduce an API for applications that allows navigation/tracker apps to enable monitoring of positions. ETA is OTA 11, OTA 10 is too close right now. Exposure to Qt/QML will happen similar to the BlackBerry backends, with a property "monitor" on the position source. @Satellite visibility

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bell wrote: > it isn't really about that, it is about providing less broken location data > to applications that ask for it. The current situation is that if an > application requests location data it gets given random coordinates of >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS

2016-02-08 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Eric Holmi <empho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I realize that GPS has improved, but it still takes over 10 minutes to get a >> A-GPS location for a single app &

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS

2016-02-08 Thread Thomas Voß
tion/ HTH, Thomas > Thanks! > Felipe. > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Marek Greško <mgres...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS

2016-02-08 Thread Thomas Voß
t;> Hi, >> >> Is there a place where I can find documentation about the current API >> available to consume the location-service from a C++ app? >> >> Thanks! >> Felipe. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@c

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS

2016-02-08 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Marek Greško wrote: > Hello, > > I would prefer to have control over gps, whether it is ever user or not. I > understand your reasoning, but what if I want to start mapping application > without gps starting? I just want to search the map, not

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can I check if GPS is disabled for an app?

2016-02-05 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Costales wrote: > @BruceG, @Pat: Thanks a lot :) > > But I was asking from the development side. How to know (with code) > from QML if the user has the GPS disabled? :) > > (I just want to add an improvement: If user has GPS disabled,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Find out if running on a phone

2016-01-11 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Michi Henning wrote: >> >> Would this get your hardware stuff enabled here then? If so, the check >> is not good enough. > > Right. So much for that. > >>> But it turns out that the point may well be moot. I re-enabled concurrent >>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Find out if running on a phone

2016-01-11 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Lorn Potter wrote: > > > On 12/01/16 05:35, Robert Park wrote: >> >> But the point is that you can't have coffee that says "if desktop: x; if >> phone: y" because it can change at any time and you can't rely on that. > > > Yes this

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Find out if running on a phone

2016-01-11 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Robert Park wrote: > But dynamically changing between a desktop and a phone doesn't make, eg, the > accelerometer appear and disappear. > > So if you have code that says "if phone: use accelerometer", can you see how > broken that is?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Find out if running on a phone

2016-01-11 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Michael Zanetti <michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On 11.01.2016 12:07, Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Michi Henning >> <michi.henn...@canonical.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Wo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Thomas Voß
/ubuntu/+source/location-service If you are happy to, it would be great if you could include information according to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics Cheers, Thomas​ > 04.01.2016 12:03, Thomas Voß пишет: > > > > On Mon, Jan

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Dmytryi Fedorov wrote: > Hi, it must be Ubuntu issue. Because Android version of MX4 don't have > such problem. > > Please see my previous answer :) As I pointed out: yes, there naturally are differences. Also note that applications

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński < ktatar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > 2016-01-03 21:21 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com>: > >> Hey there, >> >> thanks for your feedback. Let me try to provide some detail regar

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Royden Yates <royden.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, 4 January 2016 11:20:08 CET, Thomas Voß wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Simplehuman <doityourselft...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sure, but for m

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-04 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Alan Bell wrote: > so, today I cycled a mile to the office, walked around town for an hour, it > is now 4PM and I go to a page I know uses location services, > https://www.aldi.co.uk/storelocator/ it asks to allow location, I allow it, > and it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Long time to get GPS fix - hardware of software problem?

2016-01-03 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey there, thanks for your feedback. Let me try to provide some detail regarding your questions: (1.) Whether you are using a mid-to-high-end or a budget phone does hardly have any impact on the positioning performance in general. GPS just is quite slow. (2.) Assisted GPS, relying on

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] video players

2015-12-23 Thread Thomas Voß
They will also likely miss a Mir backend. Thomas On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Behrooz Ramezani wrote: > Hello I am so confused because why video player like mpv or vlc or mplayer > have only sound output and there is not any video output? > > -- > Sent using

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio Status

2015-12-18 Thread Thomas Voß
ated. Cheers, Thomas > Best Regards > B > > > > 2015-12-17 10:59 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com>: >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Alberto Mardegan >> <alberto.marde...@canonical.com> wrote: >> > On 17.12

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio Status

2015-12-17 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 17.12.2015 12:01, sturmflut wrote: >> Good morning dear list, >> >> it's time for the "good news, bad news" part again. > > Thanks Simon for looking into this! > > In your previous mail, you mentioned

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio info collection

2015-12-03 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:46 AM, sturmflut wrote: > Good morning Thomas, > > thanks for the detailed list! > >> [1.] Add a (potentially limited) API to lp:platform-api, that exposes >> a simple common C interface to the Ubuntu side. > > I'm looking at the FM radio

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio info collection

2015-12-03 Thread Thomas Voß
to shepherd all changes through. Cheers, Thomas > Too bad for me, FM Radio still isn't working and Podbird development seems > to be stagnant right now and > the bug on the podcast I'm listening to isn't fixed yet :( > > ____________ > From: Thom

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FM Radio info collection

2015-12-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:36 AM, sturmflut wrote: > Dear list, > > I've been looking at the necessary pieces for FM radio support, and I > hope somebody can correct me, but it looks more complicated than I expected. > We discussed this topic lengthily on the list some

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

2015-11-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:04 AM, <ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >> On 2015-11-27 23:05 , Thomas Voß wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, <ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

2015-11-29 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:04 AM, <ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > On 2015-11-27 23:05 , Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, <ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >>> FWIW I took care to install OTA8 and re-try before filing my bugs

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Unity app indicators and convergence

2015-11-27 Thread Thomas Voß
think you want to talk to seb128 in #ubuntu-desktop for further information and dispatching :) Have a great weekend, Cheers, Thomas > [5] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncMenu > > Cheers, Peter > > > 2015-11-26 21:35 GMT+01:00 Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com>: >&

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

2015-11-27 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > I just came back from a three-week backpacking holiday. My plan was to > test Ubuntu Touch by carrying my MX4 as my primary phone, falling back > to an iPhone 4 when necessary. That plan lasted about a day and a > half.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

2015-11-27 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, <ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > On 2015-11-27 22:28 , Thomas Voß wrote: >> Sorry to hear that you have had a frustrating experience with the >> phone. I hope your vacation >> still went well, though :) That being said, we fixed

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] music app doesn't play music.

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Voß
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Victor Thompson wrote: > Ashwin sent me these logs. Ashwin, perhaps try rebooting your device? > > For anyone else who wants to help/debug--the music app has repeated entries > of the following: > > Failed to get current playback

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telepathy on the phone

2015-11-24 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:20 PM, sturmflut <sturmf...@lieberbiber.de> wrote: > Hey Thomas, > > Am 11/24/2015 um 01:10 PM schrieb Thomas Voß: > >> Enable one of the common irc bouncers to report mentionings >> of nicknames/topics etc. via our push notification infrast

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telepathy on the phone

2015-11-24 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:36 PM, sturmflut wrote: > Good morning dear list, > > I was thinking about making an IRC client that can also run in the > background on the phone and e.g. create a notification when my nickname > is mentioned on some channel. Now if I remember

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] AllSeen Alliance

2015-11-23 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 15:32 +0100, sturmflut wrote: >> Am 11/23/2015 um 03:24 PM schrieb Krzysztof Tataradziński: >> > Thanks for clarification! :) >> > >> > 2015-11-23 14:51 GMT+01:00 sturmflut :

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS fix running all the time

2015-11-17 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote: > Hello, > > I want to test battery usage in long time period while GPS sensor is > waked up and working all the time (even screen is off). Is there any > simple way to do that? Great, thanks for looking into it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Pete Woods <pete.wo...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning >> <michi.henn...@canonical.com

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Michael Zanetti <michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti >> <michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: >>> >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti <michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com >> <mailto:thomas.v...@canonical.com&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-08 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning wrote: >> you can indeed build apps in C++ if you want, but C++ is more complex to >> understand and write (if you ever did a dynamic web page in your life >> you likely know the basics of js). C++ needs a (cross) compile

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How do we protect the user from data-collecting apps?

2015-10-07 Thread Thomas Voß
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Alan Pope wrote: > On 7 October 2015 at 15:11, Alberto Mardegan > wrote: >> Or, even better, give some sort of real-time indication whenever the active >> application is making active use of the internet?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-05 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 01.10.2015 o 18:27, Craig Harper pisze: >> We are all behind Ubuntu Touch, if where not we would not commenting on >> this problem. We understand that its not going to happen overnight. >> But this is not

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-05 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM, John Johansen <john.johan...@canonical.com> wrote: > On 10/02/2015 08:32 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, sturmflut <sturmf...@lieberbiber.de> wrote: >>> Hey Thomas, >>> >>> On 02.10.2015 1

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
before understanding the implications. Taking away features and functionality is way harder (almost impossible) than not introducing them in the first place. Cheers, Thomas > Thanks > > Craig > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Alan Griffiths <a...@octopull.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/10/15 09:54, Thomas Voß wrote: >>> Don't lose sight of the unique selling point that the phone can be a >>> > general purpose computer. >>> > >> We certainly do

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Olivier Tilloy <olivier.til...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Fredrik Andersson >> <fredrikfri...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Andrea Bernabei <andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Craig Harper <dexteru...@gmail.com> >&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrea Bernabei <andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrea Bernabei >> <andrea.berna...@can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Fredrik Andersson wrote: > Dont know if this is all programs, but i wanna be able to play some music > maybe in a browser or music app and be able to switch to other scopes/apps > And that's working perfectly fine. Media playback is handed

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Andrea Bernabei <andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Benjamin Zeller >> <benjamin.zel...@ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Alan Bell wrote: > > > On 02/10/15 11:10, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Alan Bell wrote on 01/10/15 12:25: >>> >>> I quite agree, even if it is a user preference it would be fine, >> >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
on infrastructure and services offered by the respective platforms. I don't think Ubuntu is (or even should be) different here. I'm wondering: Did you try developing an app for android or iOS? It's an interesting exercise :) Cheers, Thomas > Craig > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Alan Griffiths <a...@octopull.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/10/15 09:18, Thomas Voß wrote: >> Now that would be somewhat alien. Developers aiming at mobile >> platforms are already used to structure their >> applications differently

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Andrea Bernabei <andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Thomas Voß <thomas.v...@canonical.com> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrea Bernabei >> <andrea.berna...@can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:12 PM, sturmflut <sturmf...@lieberbiber.de> wrote: > Hey Thomas, > > On 02.10.2015 10:54, Thomas Voß wrote: > >> We certainly don't. I would argue that compiling code, browsing and >> emailing is not a typical mobile device use-case. >&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, sturmflut <sturmf...@lieberbiber.de> wrote: > Hey Thomas, > > On 02.10.2015 16:44, Thomas Voß wrote: > >> Let's make sure that we are untangling the lifecycle policy discussion >> we are having here from the >> discussion of enab

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Alan Pope wrote: > On 1 October 2015 at 15:52, Michał Sawicz wrote: >> I would love for us to have this discussion in a manner "I have this use >> case, how do you plan / how can we enable it in the given

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > Hey all, > > I also put my thoughts inline: > >> Hey Simon, >> >> Thanks for your thoughts and ideas. Please find my suggestions and >> replies inline: >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sturm Flut

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-01 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Craig Harper wrote: > I also really thing something should be done about this, even if you create > a user override, allowing applications to multitask in the background. Like > you give permissions for applications to use the GPS. Then the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-01 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey Simon, Thanks for your thoughts and ideas. Please find my suggestions and replies inline: On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sturm Flut wrote: > Good morning dear list, > > this has been brewing for quite some time now and the discussion > Krzysztof Tataradziński

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Detecting Touch apps and X-Ubuntu-Touch

2015-09-28 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Michael Terry wrote: > For the pocket desktop feature, we want to be able to distinguish between > native Touch apps and non-Touch apps, in order to be able to apply different > lifecycle policies to them. > > For example, LibreOffice

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What moving to GCC5 means for the phone and app developers

2015-07-30 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Roman Zonov roman2...@yandex.ru wrote: That's so annoying when devs need to update their apps everytime when you introduce new framework/compiler/.etc. I can develop an Android 1.6 app and it will work on Lollipop. Please, thnk more about compatibility. I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GCC 5: C++ ABI transition for wily, phone stack package changes needed

2015-07-16 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey James, the solution to this is a custom scope loader, keeping existing scopes intact and working despite the transition. I scheduled a meeting later today such that we can sync. Cheers, Thomas On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:25 AM, James Henstridge james.henstri...@canonical.com wrote: On 16

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gps

2015-05-15 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Colin Ian King colin.k...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/05/15 13:42, Dave Morley wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 13:23:57 +0100 wayne Ward i...@wayneward.co.uk wrote: I can run the here map on the nexus 7 as you could

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] bq Aquaris E4.5: GPS doesn't work

2015-04-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, sturmflut sturmf...@lieberbiber.de wrote: Hi Thomas, On 26.04.2015 06:20, Thomas Voß wrote: Hey all, thanks for the great script, I will make sure that we fold the color coding capabilities into the client executable of the location service. As far as I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] bq Aquaris E4.5: GPS doesn't work

2015-04-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: On 04/26/15 06:20, Thomas Voß wrote: Hey all, thanks for the great script, I will make sure that we fold the color coding capabilities into the client executable of the location service. As far as I can see, green

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] bq Aquaris E4.5: GPS doesn't work

2015-04-25 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey all, thanks for the great script, I will make sure that we fold the color coding capabilities into the client executable of the location service. As far as I can see, green indicates that the snr exceeds a certain threshold (11 in the awk script). While snr is an interesting value, the more

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS problems on bq Aquaris

2015-04-03 Thread Thomas Voß
, Thomas On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Thomas Voß thomas.v...@canonical.com wrote: Hey there, glad to hear you like the phone. Now for the logs: /var/log/ubuntu-location-service* would help in tracking down any potential issues. If you are happy to alter a config file, please edit: /etc

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS problems on bq Aquaris

2015-04-03 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey there, glad to hear you like the phone. Now for the logs: /var/log/ubuntu-location-service* would help in tracking down any potential issues. If you are happy to alter a config file, please edit: /etc/init/ubuntu-location-service.override and add the following two lines before the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Geolocation

2015-04-02 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey, please note that vivid proposed does not contain the Nokia Here services for network-based positioning. The GPS provider is available, though, and it might just take some time for standalone GPS to acquire a fix (specifically from cold start), where some time could easily be 20 minutes.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FW: bq Aquaris E4.5 - Battery Life

2015-03-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi! First, check which image you are running. This should be in the Settings/About/OS Details (not sure the exact names, I use my phone in Greek). In my case, I run release 20 of the Ubuntu Touch image

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SD Card access for applications

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Voß
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Florian Boucault florian.bouca...@canonical.com wrote: Hello all, The camera and the gallery app today are authorized to read/write in /home/$USER/Pictures and /home/$USER/Videos. Soon they will also need to be able to read/write in the similar directories

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] libust error

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey there, the issue is caused by AppArmor blocking access to the respective shared memory segment, see the resolving comment in: https://bugs.lttng.org/issues/775 We are working on a solution to this issue. Thanks, Thomas On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Bradley Matusiak

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team: convenience list of ubuntu landings not yet landed in ubuntu-rtm

2014-08-27 Thread Thomas Voß
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com wrote: Hello everyone, First of all: a big thank you for those that already started landing their changes to Ubuntu RTM! We know it might seem troublesome right now and the process is still far from

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] preferred test framework for C++ backends?

2014-08-08 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey Alex, On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Alex Chiang achi...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, I'm seeking an opinion for which testing framework to use in a Qt-flavored C++ library. I've seen some Ubuntu phone projects use GTest, such as lp:unity-scope-click and lp:ubuntu-download-manager.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] (no subject)

2014-08-01 Thread Thomas Voß
Known issue, see https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/platform-api/android-build-stale-header. HTH, Thomas On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Varun Bhat varunbhat...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I Am trying to compile the Ubuntu-touch for mako. But i'm facing an issue while compiling. In the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] System Apps Status - July 17, 2014

2014-07-21 Thread Thomas Voß
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Tomas Öqvist tomas.oqv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, Ubuntu Touch is making great progress. I am using it as a daily driver on my Nexus 4 now, but there are a few areas where I haven't been able to find the current status and/or plans: 1) MMS is not working. I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Handling URL Scheme in content-hub?

2014-07-01 Thread Thomas Voß
Exactly, URL dispatcher is your friend here. I'm CC'ing Ted explicitly, please reach out to him for help with setting up click-hooks for your app. HTH, Thomas On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chris Wayne chris.wa...@canonical.com wrote: This sounds more like URL Dispatcher:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Background services: a problem that we need to face

2014-06-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 17:10 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: On miércoles 25 de junio de 2014 16h'29:10 ART, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 14:44 -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 14-06-25 02:11 PM,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Background services: a problem that we need to face

2014-06-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 08:08 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: Hmmm, I see some problems here: I don't think a user starting a torrent app on the phone is a strong indication of the user wanting to waste battery life and his

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Background services: a problem that we need to face

2014-06-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:09 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: I assumed that you know: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1ij8RtPsR_eYMW3mys8Gu1Y2CVFZpjXdMpdIjIGZ1SCA/edit#heading=h.28drra4u9knx given

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Background services: a problem that we need to face

2014-06-26 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 07:50 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 17:10 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: On miércoles 25 de

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