Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi On 17.09.2015 13:22, James Henstridge wrote: > On 17 September 2015 at 18:53, Alberto Mardegan > > > wrote: > > Anyway, how to proceed? I'm not very fond of backporting the changes > to the 15.04 framework, because

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Alberto Mardegan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/16/2015 07:32 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > Note that this landing was uncoordinated with the security team (I > just now heard about it). There is no security policy for 15.10 on > the device at the moment so targeting a 15.10 framework in an

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread James Henstridge
On 17 September 2015 at 18:53, Alberto Mardegan < alberto.marde...@canonical.com> wrote: > Anyway, how to proceed? I'm not very fond of backporting the changes > to the 15.04 framework, because we shouldn't modify a framework after > having released it (save for bugfixes). What if an application

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2015, 10:19 +0300 schrieb Alberto Mardegan: > Hi all! > I'm writing this because I'm quite confused about the fate with wily > and the 15.10 frameworks as far as the phones are concerned. Since I > suspect I'm not the only one who is confused, I thought of writing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 09/17/2015 09:24 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > Yet we've done this a lot already-- but mostly for bug fixes and new > functionality (ie, not breaks to existing functionality). I think the way to > proceed is get the new policy on the devices (but shipping newer security > policy > on old

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 09/16/2015 07:32 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: Note that this landing was uncoordinated with the security team (I just now heard about it). There is no security policy for 15.10 on the device at the moment so targeting a 15.10 framework in an app won't work on a 15.04 device. Looks like I'm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 09/17/2015 04:16 PM, Pat McGowan wrote: Sounds like we have a few issues. Firs we neglected to provide a security policy as Jamie points out. Second, the naming convention for frameworks is a bit unfortunate as it uses the base distro release which strongly implies a tie in that is not

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 09/17/2015 05:53 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 09/16/2015 07:32 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: >> Note that this landing was uncoordinated with the security team (I >> just now heard about it). There is no security policy for 15.10 on >> the device at the moment so targeting a 15.10 framework

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread Pat McGowan
Sounds like we have a few issues. Firs we neglected to provide a security policy as Jamie points out. Second, the naming convention for frameworks is a bit unfortunate as it uses the base distro release which strongly implies a tie in that is not necessarily the case. This has been debated

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-17 Thread James Tait
On 17 September 2015 at 15:24, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 09/17/2015 05:53 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > > I tried to modify the reminders-app to use the new account APIs in > > 15.10-dev1, but the application won't start. > > I suspect that this has something to do with

[Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-16 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Hi all! I'm writing this because I'm quite confused about the fate with wily and the 15.10 frameworks as far as the phones are concerned. Since I suspect I'm not the only one who is confused, I thought of writing here. As I understand it, Wily will not be released on the phones. We'll continue

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-16 Thread Zoltán Balogh
Hi, there are two places where you can observe what framework is available on the device and by the SDK or the store: On the device just `adb shell` in run `click framework lists` and it will list what frameworks the device is labelled up. The other place where the SDK too pulls the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-16 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 09/16/2015 03:22 AM, Zoltán Balogh wrote: > Hi, > > there are two places where you can observe what framework is available on the > device and by the SDK or the store: > > On the device just `adb shell` in run `click framework lists` and it will > list > what frameworks the device is

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Understanding Wily and the 15.10 framework

2015-09-16 Thread Kevin Gunn
hey Zoltan - when running `click framework lists` i see that all the 15.10 ones are postponed with "dev1". Does that mean that these aren't really official or experimental or something ? like is there a particular policy if someone starts to use these on vivid+overlay ? br,kg On Wed, Sep 16,