Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Mike Sheldon
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 19:27 +0200, Rasmus Eneman wrote: Having only a set of default services would be very limiting. Even if a music background service could take streams to support metronome-like apps, how about Spotify or Grooveshark? They

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Jodie Robinson
Would it not be an idea to make a plugin based system. For instance if someone wants to make a torrent downloader they'd make a plugin for the download service to handle the connections, pieces, etc and then make a front-end to initiate and monitor downloads, and change connection settings. Same

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Florian Will
Hi, Am 25.10.2013 19:48, schrieb Thomas Voß: One thing that strikes me: Instead of trying to solve the problem a lot of won't work statements are made in this thread, going along with a request for removing all of the lifecycle policies. And to be clear: With strict policies in place, it is

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Rick Spencer
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Florian Will florian.w...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Am 25.10.2013 19:48, schrieb Thomas Voß: One thing that strikes me: Instead of trying to solve the problem a lot of won't work statements are made in this thread, going along with a request for removing all of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 10/25/2013 08:48 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: One thing that strikes me: Instead of trying to solve the problem a lot of won't work statements are made in this thread, going along with a request for removing all of the lifecycle policies. And to be clear: With strict policies in place, it is

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Rasmus Eneman
I think we are misunderstanding; I'm not saying that the user should be asked (at install time or at run time) for granting a permission. There would be a policy groups background_gps, background_music which the app developer can declare in its manifest file. Then, if the application is defocused

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Rasmus Eneman
One simple add: I do say background services a lot, however just letting apps run in the background would basically be the same thing. That's a weigh between simple code (portability?) and forcing developers to not do anything graphical while in the background. 2013/10/27 Rasmus Eneman

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Thomas Voß
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Alberto Mardegan alberto.marde...@canonical.com wrote: On 10/25/2013 08:48 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: One thing that strikes me: Instead of trying to solve the problem a lot of won't work statements are made in this thread, going along with a request for removing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-27 Thread Florian Will
Hi Rick, Am 27.10.2013 16:25, schrieb Rick Spencer: This sounds kind of far fetched. Who would do something like this on their phone? More than 200k android users who downloaded the app that I described. I don't think it's a phone! is a valid excuse for not allowing any CPU intensive task in