Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-04-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! 2018-03-17 12:04 GMT+02:00 Adam Conrad : > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:35:42AM +, Robie Basak wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:01:11AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> >> > And keep the epoch forever. No thanks. > > Epochs happen. A lot. Here's a quick check

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-29 Thread Robie Basak
[adding pkg-mysql-maint; see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2018-March/007069.html for previous thread posts] Hi Otto, On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:29:49PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > I guess that the discussion is complete now? How do you want to proceed? > > Will you upload a

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-23 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Otto, I guess that the discussion is complete now? How do you want to proceed? Will you upload a src:mariadb-10.1 update to Debian? If not, I suppose I need to upload a src:mariadb-10.1 upload to Ubuntu to fix it for Bionic at least? Robie signature.asc Description: PGP signature --

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-17 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks Robie for your comment. Comments to them below: 2018-03-15 15:47 GMT+02:00 Robie Basak : .. > Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge we don't ever try to make > this kind of revert in the archive because of the knock-on effects it'll > have everywhere else. I

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-17 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2018-03-16 2:58 GMT+02:00 Robie Basak : >> Yes, once an epoch is in the wild in Debian or Ubuntu, it's irreversible. >> Others will simply need to follow suit. >> >> > If a PPA does not do this, then users will end up downgraded, with a >> > failed data migration and

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-17 Thread Adam Conrad
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:35:42AM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:01:11AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > And keep the epoch forever. No thanks. Epochs happen. A lot. Here's a quick check of my installed packages: $ dpkg -l | awk '/^i/ {print $3}' | grep '.:' | wc

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-16 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 09:43:35AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I have owned several pre-installed Ubuntu laptops and all of them come > with their custom repositories pre-installed in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, which install custom versions of Linux > modules or whatever that are absolute

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:01:11AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: [I've rearranged the quote ordering to bring common topics together] > I don't think it has unacceptable knock-on effects if reverted. On the > contrary, if not reverted, the knock-on effects will be massive. [...] > And keep the

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello, On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 01:47:39PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 04:23:10PM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > ## Request > > In the name of avoiding a quality catastrophe, please > > - remove from the Ubuntu Bionic repos the source package and all > > binary

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > Does this plan (steps 1 to 3 above) seem reasonable to everyone? It sounds reasonable to me. Thank you for taking the time to prepare this proposal. Jeremy Bicha -- Ubuntu-release mailing list

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > The main point here is not the corner cases of somebody running Debian > unstable, testing, Ubuntu alpha, beta or so, but what is expected to > happen when Bionic is released and real production machines will start >

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-11 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! Thanks for the reply and for including a more appropriate team as recipient. Replies inline: 2018-03-11 15:35 GMT+02:00 Jeremy Bicha : > I'm replying to this email but I wasn't subscribed to that list: >

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-11 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Yes, it is better to have a newer version, but that will not remove > the epoch thing, all the those epoch related problems will remain. The > package is from my point of view now sabotaged and I cannot fix it > because

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-11 Thread Jeremy Bicha
I'm replying to this email but I wasn't subscribed to that list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2018-March/007069.html Please send replies to ubuntu-release. Otto, thanks for taking the time to email us. I am not on the Ubuntu Release Team but here are my thoughts. I don't