Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-05-20 00:06, Len Ovens wrote: On to Graphics... (...) I do like separation and agree that having separate menus may not be needed. So, looking at the Audio Production menu we have now. You can see that it is devided into four sections with a divider line between each one. I would

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 19 May 2015 15:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: I would also like to rename mixers to something that would include audio utilities that are not used very often. ^ If it's not a sub menu name it Audio utility, if it's a sub menu call it Utility. I don't want a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-05-20 09:17, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I'm not sure i understand. First you write: I'd rather first try using submenus then (using a menu at all is a nuisance, if you ask me - using your mouse to navigate is time consuming). So, was that first sentence i quote intended to state: I'd rather

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] MenuLibre

2015-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 19 May 2015 22:37:18 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: MATE has Mozo menulibre, alacarte, mozo, cinnamon-menu-editor and if there are others, perhaps I have tested others too, all run when using current versions from upstream on a Linux that follows stable releases from upstream, but

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
Sorry Kaj, for the formatting of my previous message :/ And maybe not so good formulated... I don't question you, i got confused 3 I hope that got thru. However, about introducing text in the separation. Perhaps if possible it is a good idea. But then again, ATM when you hover the mouse on an

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Len Ovens wrote: After thinking about htis all day while working I have some more ideas. In keeping with what is shown at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/UbuntuStudioMenu I have no problem with renaming sub menus in audio. I still

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 09:40 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote: However, about introducing text in the separation. Perhaps if possible it is a good idea. But then again, ATM when you hover the mouse on an app, you get a description of the apps function. I'm not sure how obvious this is to a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 20 May 2015 09:17:12 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: publishing Actually it means to provide tools that e.g. allow to make the file for the printing company. For a tacked book, page 16 and 17 might be one sheet, but then 14 and 19 are one sheet and the backside of the sheet with the pages 16

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2015 09:17:12 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: publishing Actually it means to provide tools that e.g. allow to make the file for the printing company. For a tacked book, page 16 and 17 might be Publishing today does not need to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote: On 2015-05-20 11:57, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Reposting the link, just in case https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/UbuntuStudioMenu On 2015-05-20 12:03, Set Hallstrom wrote: Screencaster fits well in the recording

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 09:27 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote: On 2015-05-20 09:17, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I'm not sure i understand. First you write: I'd rather first try using submenus then (using a menu at all is a nuisance, if you ask me - using your mouse to navigate is time consuming).

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 20 May 2015 09:40:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: beginner Don't confuse a beginner with an intellectually disabled person. Btw. the pictograms of the apps already give much more information, then written text could give. If you are a beginner, then there will be a learning curve.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:40:52 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Publishing today does not need to involve actual printing. That's correct. I do find it difficult to place web design applications in the same field, as those are generally regarded as code development tools. That said, a publication can be

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-05-20 10:21, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2015 09:40:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: beginner Don't confuse a beginner with an intellectually disabled person. Btw. the pictograms of the apps already give much more information, then written text could give. If you are a

[ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I added the remark that a sub-category does not need to be a sub-menu. Also, I took some liberty in this latest update in how I added stuff. It is sort of inline with what has been discussed so far. ADDITIONS: (we can always remove stuff later) * Utilities for Audio, Graphics and Video (a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Btw, I just realized. The nice thing about submenus is that they will not show if no application belonging to that category is installed. However, if we put text descriptions in the menu, and we do not install certain applications, won't the text show all the time? This would make me opposed to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-05-20 11:57, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: How about Video streaming, screencasting, that sort of thing? Aren't we missing some important categories for video? Screencaster fits well in the recording subcat. Streaming, downwards its a definite player... if upwards then it's a tricky one...

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-05-20 11:57, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Reposting the link, just in case https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/UbuntuStudioMenu On 2015-05-20 12:03, Set Hallstrom wrote: Screencaster fits well in the recording subcat oh... recording subcat isn't planed for video then my

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Len Ovens wrote: So: Graphics installer divider 2d graphics apps inlined divider photographic apps inlined (photography is 2D graphics) divider 3D graphics apps inlined divider anything else

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio-menu feature definition updated

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Reposting the link, just in case https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/UbuntuStudioMenu -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 20 May 2015, Set Hallstrom wrote: Would it be possible to introduce text in the separation? That would both reduce mouse navigation and guide the user That would be non-standard and therefore not supported in most (any?) DEs. I thought of it once before :) There is however, an

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] menu layout

2015-05-20 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 03:24 PM, Len Ovens wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2015, Set Hallstrom wrote: Would it be possible to introduce text in the separation? That would both reduce mouse navigation and guide the user That would be non-standard and therefore not supported in most (any?)