Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[set]

On 2016-02-23 17:18, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 05:11 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:
>> On 02/23/2016 04:55 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 04:42 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
 Kdenlive is STILL version 15.08, which is a buggy mess as well as being
 old. if that gets to release, anyone wanting to do a complex video in
 Xenial will need to install from PPA or source. Version 15.08 is OK for
 simple stuff but gets things like compositing transitions that move on
 their own and crashes.

>>>
>>> Ross, did you contact anyone about this yet?
>>>
>>
>> Yes - the Kubuntu people are working on it:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1546803
>>
> 
> Thanks, Ross. Looks like it will happen sooner or later then, before
> release.
> 
Thank you very much Ross! Good to know there is hope for kdenlive. I
agree with lukefromdc, the current version is truly a buggy mess.

Sucked into duties of life, I failed to follow you up last week, Ross,
regarding the 14.04.04 tests. I barely communicated with the group at
all. Shouldn't happen this one, and i plan on spending the day testing
both the ISO and the applications tomorrow.

Heads up guys, we can do this! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[flocculant]

On 23/02/16 16:11, Ross Gammon wrote:
[snip] Actually, I forgot to mention that everyone should skip the 
kdenlive test for now. I will put a failure on the tracker and link 
this bug. 

You can actually mark a testcase disabled - then people don't even see it.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[Len Ovens]

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Ross Gammon wrote:


test for now. I will put a failure on the tracker and link this bug.


I will be failing Studio for a broken Qjackctl as well. (unless this 
update fixes it) for some reason it has been assigned low priority, yet 
qjackctl is effectively a major part of the audio infrastructure for us. 
Having someone be able to set it in such a way that they can't use the 
mouse on next login is not acceptable.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[Kaj Ailomaa]

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 05:11 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:
> On 02/23/2016 04:55 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 04:42 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
> >> Kdenlive is STILL version 15.08, which is a buggy mess as well as being
> >> old. if that gets to release, anyone wanting to do a complex video in
> >> Xenial will need to install from PPA or source. Version 15.08 is OK for
> >> simple stuff but gets things like compositing transitions that move on
> >> their own and crashes.
> >>
> > 
> > Ross, did you contact anyone about this yet?
> > 
> 
> Yes - the Kubuntu people are working on it:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1546803
> 

Thanks, Ross. Looks like it will happen sooner or later then, before
release.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[Ross Gammon]

On 02/23/2016 04:55 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 04:42 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>> Kdenlive is STILL version 15.08, which is a buggy mess as well as being
>> old. if that gets to release, anyone wanting to do a complex video in
>> Xenial will need to install from PPA or source. Version 15.08 is OK for
>> simple stuff but gets things like compositing transitions that move on
>> their own and crashes.
>>
> 
> Ross, did you contact anyone about this yet?
> 

Yes - the Kubuntu people are working on it:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1546803

Actually, I forgot to mention that everyone should skip the kdenlive
test for now. I will put a failure on the tracker and link this bug.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:42:58 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>Kdenlive is STILL version 15.08, which is a buggy mess as well as
>being old. if that gets to release, anyone wanting to do a complex
>video in Xenial will need to install from PPA or source. Version 15.08
>is OK for simple stuff but gets things like compositing transitions
>that move on their own and crashes.

I had a flame war about the Ubuntu bug tracker and the related
tools (and not only about this Ubuntu crap) and decided not to
contribute to anything Ubuntu related anymore, but I still will help
users, however, consider to file a bug report, since inexperienced
Linux users shouldn't suffer from Ubuntu and Ubuntu flavour crap.

"stable: 0.9.10-2
testing: 15.12.2-1
unstable: 15.12.2-1" - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kdenlive

I guess you need to report it to the "Ubuntu" and not the "Ubuntu
Studio" bug tracker.

This might save you some time, assumed you removed all Ubuntu spyware
too:

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 12:15:49 +0100
From: Ralf Mardorf 
To: ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Pitfalls of the Ubuntu bug tracker - Was: volume past 100% and
vol control


I only changed the subject, but kept the thread, since the issue is
quasi solved and became a discussion about the bug tracker.

On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 08:50:14 +0100, Gary J. Kirkpatrick wrote:
>> 'yes' is not a valid answer to the question 'how did you report the
>> bug'.  I am interested to know how the system decided for you which
>> package to use.  Normally one has to do it oneself.  I usually use
>> ubuntu-bug   
>
>Misread your question.  I left the package blank as I do not know what
>package to use. The bug system stuck one in there.  Ihave no idea if
>it's the correct package.  

What way did you chose to report the bug?

Colin e.g. uses command line 'ubuntu-bug '.

1. I visit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ with a browser and log in.

2. The "Report a bug" link there leads to a help page, so I need to
   search one or ten hours to find out, how to report a bug. It works
   like this: Click on an existing bug and click the "Report a bug" link
   there.

3. The problem is, that at this time it's automatically assigned to the
   same package as the bug report I selected. However, I add the
   summary, aka subject and continue, then there is the question "In
   what package did you find this bug?". There you can assign the bug
   against another package.

If you used the bug tracker in the way most Linux users do, excepted of
perhaps Ubuntu users, then it's indeed a little bit tricky, since by
searching for a way to file a bug report you get stressed and you
might not notice that you can assign the bug to package, other than the
package that was selected automatically. If you notice it, but you
don't know against what package to file the bug report you are screwed.
To know what package is affected is for newbies not that easy, since
e.g. one app from upstream often is split in to several packages, so
even if you know what app is affected, you not necessarily know what of
the seven packages, is the correct package.

It's not that insane, when doing it for the Ubuntu flavour Ubuntu
Studio. 

1. I visit https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-project with a browser
   and log in.

2. I click "Report a bug" and can add a summary, aka subject without
   the need to search one or ten hours.

3. There's no need and no way to assign it to a package, other than by
   the subject, aka summary.

I'm using open source bug trackers for likely more than ten years now
and never have seen such a bad designed bug tracker as the Ubuntu one.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

[lukefromdc]

Kdenlive is STILL version 15.08, which is a buggy mess as well as being old. if 
that gets to release, anyone wanting to do a complex video in Xenial will need 
to install from PPA or source. Version 15.08 is OK for simple stuff but gets 
things like compositing transitions that move on their own and crashes.

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04

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Hi All,As of the 18th February, the Debian Import Freeze started. This means that unless we do something special, the applications in Xenial right now, are the ones that will be released with Xenial in April.So lets try and make sure that no buggy package slips through to the DVD!We have now got a package testing tracker set up here, with Test Cases for some of our packages:http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/buildsSo please pick a test case, and run the test and upload your result on the the package tracker. Check in there daily or weekly to see how the testing is getting on, and pick another one to test. Then we can investigate the bugs found, and try and do something about them.It is probably best to install the development release of Ubuntu Studio to do the testing:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/InstallDevelopmentReleaseYou could probably also install it in a Virtual Machine, or from the Live DVD for some applications, but a bare metal installation will be best for audio applications, and also pick up hardware related problems.Ask questions here if you need to, or find someone on IRC.Cheers,Ross

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