Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Len Ovens]

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Leo Francisco wrote:


I recently installed Gnome3 on top of Ubuntu Studio and everything seems
to be working great. You can use both if you have the space!


and memory and CPU speed. Gnome3 would not even start on the system I was 
using two years ago. Yup, Gnome3 is another good choice for a desktop... 
enjoy.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Leo Francisco]

I recently installed Gnome3 on top of Ubuntu Studio and everything seems
to be working great. You can use both if you have the space!



On 29/01/16 15:02, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Daniel M Gessel wrote:
>> Created launch pad account.
>>
>> I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word reason
>> for not using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though I’d like to
>> have more flexibility controlling the environment with my touch tablet. 
>>
>>
> Ubuntu Studio is not specific to a desktop environment, and there are
> plans (but no concrete work) on making Ubuntu Studio desktop agnostic,
> making it possible to choose your favorite DE during installation of
> Ubuntu Studio (when having an internet connection).
>
> XFCE was chosen when Gnome went Gnome3, and Unity was young, and those
> were different times. A lot of people had the idea that both those DEs
> were moving away from the desktop, which apparently was not true, but
> there is some controversy around both those DEs, and well, IMO there
> isn't a clear candidate for a default DE, if we were to choose one
> today.
> But, since we already do have a default DE, it would require some work
> on changing it - nothing impossible, but still, work that someone would
> need to do.
>
> And I would like to add this word of advice if you want to become a
> contributor:
>
> If you have the support of the community here, you can just go ahead and
> do any kind of development as you please.
> Each developer is free to do the things they are willing to do, unless
> having made some sort of a commitment - like say being a project lead,
> or some other kind of lead - where you will be responsible for certain
> things and at least need to make sure they are working and functional,
> but beyond that - since we are all volunteers, no one can order anyone
> else to do anything - which is why it can be hard to make something
> happen, unless you are willing to do some work yourself.
>
> So, if you really feel like switching DEs is a good idea, keep the topic
> going, and see who would like to work on that. I would rather make
> Ubuntu Studio desktop agnostic instead, and improve how one can make any
> Ubuntu flavor quickly suitable for audio production specifically, since
> the other areas don't suffer as much from generic system settings.
>
> On that note, when someone installs ubuntustudio-audio, or
> ubuntustudio-audio-core, we should probably let -controls notify the
> user that adding RT privilege might be a good idea, if that hasn't been
> added already. So, that is actually one huge little detail to improve
> the life of any DE user who wants to make music on their Ubuntu.
>
> /Kaj (Current Project Lead)
>



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[set]

Hi Daniel!

On 2016-01-29 00:00, Daniel M Gessel wrote:
> is there a 25 word reason for not using compiz/Unity?

I can think of one: universal access. I like the idea that ubuntustudio
is operational with very limited resources. After all, most people
living in this word have poor access to state of the art technology. But
in terms of operation and layout i'm open to anything, given i can use a
keyboard and a mouse. A virtual home is like one's home; only you can
make yourself comfortable in it.  :) Sometimes i wonder if XFCE wouldn't
work just fine on a tablet if the buttons were bigger and a virtual
desktop poped up when one taps into text-field or a terminal..? But i
admit having outdated knowledge about finger operated interfaces.

> On 2016-01-29 14:11, Daniel M Gessel wrote:
>> Touch+pen enhancements might be a good project for me - I’ve always
>> wanted to do pen-based interface design and touch is now appealing; I
>> expect I’d have to dive into the whole SW stack (input drivers to
>> applications) - including the window manager - DWM’s simplicity is
>> appealing as a start point.

That is a very cool idea! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[set]

On 2016-01-29 15:53, set wrote:
> Sometimes i wonder if XFCE wouldn't
> work just fine on a tablet if the buttons were bigger and a virtual
> desktop poped up when one taps into text-field or a terminal..?

erhm... virtual *keyboard :D

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Matias Flores Serrano]

Dejen de mandarme pinches cotreos de mierda a lo pendejo! Gracias
El 28/01/2016 17:01, "Daniel M Gessel"  escribió:

> Created launch pad account.
>
> I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word reason
> for not using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though I’d like to have
> more flexibility controlling the environment with my touch tablet.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Kaj Ailomaa]

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Daniel M Gessel wrote:
> Created launch pad account.
> 
> I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word reason
> for not using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though I’d like to
> have more flexibility controlling the environment with my touch tablet. 
> 
> 

Ubuntu Studio is not specific to a desktop environment, and there are
plans (but no concrete work) on making Ubuntu Studio desktop agnostic,
making it possible to choose your favorite DE during installation of
Ubuntu Studio (when having an internet connection).

XFCE was chosen when Gnome went Gnome3, and Unity was young, and those
were different times. A lot of people had the idea that both those DEs
were moving away from the desktop, which apparently was not true, but
there is some controversy around both those DEs, and well, IMO there
isn't a clear candidate for a default DE, if we were to choose one
today.
But, since we already do have a default DE, it would require some work
on changing it - nothing impossible, but still, work that someone would
need to do.

And I would like to add this word of advice if you want to become a
contributor:

If you have the support of the community here, you can just go ahead and
do any kind of development as you please.
Each developer is free to do the things they are willing to do, unless
having made some sort of a commitment - like say being a project lead,
or some other kind of lead - where you will be responsible for certain
things and at least need to make sure they are working and functional,
but beyond that - since we are all volunteers, no one can order anyone
else to do anything - which is why it can be hard to make something
happen, unless you are willing to do some work yourself.

So, if you really feel like switching DEs is a good idea, keep the topic
going, and see who would like to work on that. I would rather make
Ubuntu Studio desktop agnostic instead, and improve how one can make any
Ubuntu flavor quickly suitable for audio production specifically, since
the other areas don't suffer as much from generic system settings.

On that note, when someone installs ubuntustudio-audio, or
ubuntustudio-audio-core, we should probably let -controls notify the
user that adding RT privilege might be a good idea, if that hasn't been
added already. So, that is actually one huge little detail to improve
the life of any DE user who wants to make music on their Ubuntu.

/Kaj (Current Project Lead)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Jimmy Sjölund]

On Friday, January 29, 2016, Daniel M Gessel 
wrote:

> Created launch pad account.
>
> I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word reason
> for not using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though I’d like to have
> more flexibility controlling the environment with my touch tablet.
>
>  Resources. When I do audio or video work I want as much of the computer's
resources available as possible for that specific purpose. I've even
changed to dwm instead of xfce and after login it use like 120 MB. Logging
into Unity use above 1GB. To me that's just wasting my computer power on
nothing. But to you it might better as you use touch.

/Jimmy
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[lukefromdc]

Too different from the traditional Win95 layout for many power users, and
all desktop environments optimized for one fullscreened app at a time are
poorly suited to running multiple media applications with drag and drop
between them. 

On 1/28/2016 at 6:01 PM, "Daniel M Gessel"  wrote:
>
>Created launch pad account.
>
>I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word 
>reason for not using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though 
>I’d like to have more flexibility controlling the environment with 
>my touch tablet. 
>
>
>
>
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Destktop/Window Manager

[Daniel M Gessel]

Created launch pad account.

I’m sure this is a total Newbie question, but is there a 25 word reason for not 
using compiz/Unity? It feels pretty solid, though I’d like to have more 
flexibility controlling the environment with my touch tablet. 




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