Re: [ubuntu-uk] [RESOLVED] PCI Wirless card recommendation

2007-11-01 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 22 October 2007 18:58:48 Tony Arnold wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 14:35 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: Can anyone recommend a PCI based Wireless card that is known to work well with Gutsy, preferably out of the box? The recommendation in various places is for RAlink chipset devices

[ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread STONE COLD
So im getting regular speeds of 50kbs if im torrenting somethingi have a 2mb line with virgin!!!If not what should it be? Am i getting the full capacity? how much is 2mb in kbs? Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread Rob Beard
STONE COLD wrote: So im getting regular speeds of 50kbs if im torrenting somethingi have a 2mb line with virgin!!!If not what should it be? Am i getting the full capacity? how much is 2mb in kbs? Regards Javad I think it all depends on how many people you're

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:53:29 + STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So im getting regular speeds of 50kbs if im torrenting somethingi have a 2mb line with virgin!!!If not what should it be? Am i getting the full capacity? how much is 2mb in kbs? 2 Mb/s is 2 Mega bits per second = 2

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread Sean Miller
This is a wonderful speed checker... http://www.speedtest.net/ Has multiple places you can check speed to as, of course, the delay could be at the other end ;-) As for kbps and kb/s me old IT teacher taught me there were 8 bits in a byte... therefore maximum on 2mbps would be 2048kbps/8 which I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread STONE COLD
i will do a test and put up the results! Yes my broadband is thru cable! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:11:09 + Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry! You can not judge your connection on torrents for a start as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread Daniel Lamb
You can not judge your connection on torrents for a start as it also depends on how many people are sharing and speed they are sharing at. Also I believe it is 2mb per minute rather than kbs, if you are worried about your speed try the broadband speed test that think broadband provide. Also is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another broadband related q? Sorry!

2007-11-01 Thread Daniel Lamb
It also depends who you have broadband with Tesco etc offer llu broadband which means they can add as many users as they want. The other thing is that people talk about the best broadband provider, from my experience (I am an entanet and zen reseller) if you are happy paying more you get a

[ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Alec Wright
Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? Cheers Alec Wright -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Dave Murphy
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:47 +, Alec Wright wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? Hardy has only just started

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Kris Marsh
On 11/1/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? Cheers Alec Wright --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Kirrus
- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? Cheers Alec Wright Not yet! Let them

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Alec, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:47 +, Alec Wright wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? The Hardy repository isn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Load Unload Cycles

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Tom, Samsung quote the load unload cycle threshold as 60, so in your case with such a high number of counts I'd be inclined to apply the workaround. There is a correlation on some drives but it depends on the manufacturer. Hitachi and IBM use ramp or rollers to lift the heads from the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!

2007-11-01 Thread Sean Miller
BT Voyager routers are commercial products, sold in PC World etc. so they wouldn't be locked into anything... I think it's the ones that BT supply with their broadband as part of the package that are the issue. Personally I prefer the Voyager routers anyway... they're more intuitive to configure

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Sean Miller
Ah, so we're going with an H then. I wondered whether H and W would be skipped on the basis that the letters had already been used before Ubuntu switched into this alphabetical progressed (Warty/Hoary)... clearly not... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!

2007-11-01 Thread Steve Flynn
On 01/11/2007, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT Voyager routers are commercial products, sold in PC World etc. so they wouldn't be locked into anything... I think it's the ones that BT supply with their broadband as part of the package that are the issue. Indeed. It always amuses me

[ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Alec Wright
Or so Evesham tech support say... Here's what happened: Whenever I switched my computer on, it would switch off within five seconds or so. If I switch it on again, it will switch off again even more quickly. It doesn't even get to detecting disk drives, let alone booting an operating system. It

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Daniel Lamb
Does that surprise you? Anyways what machine are you running? What are the problems? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Wright Sent: 01 November 2007 14:56 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread John Levin
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Alec, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:47 +, Alec Wright wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the feisty release, so am i likely to be able to use hardy? The

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Mark Harrison
Hi, I'm calling back. Your tech support guy told me to re-install Windows, but the PC is switching off before it starts the install... M. Alec Wright wrote: Or so Evesham tech support say... Here's what happened: Whenever I switched my computer on, it would switch off within five seconds

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Michael Holloway
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:55 +, Alec Wright wrote: Or so Evesham tech support say... Here's what happened: Whenever I switched my computer on, it would switch off within five seconds or so. If I switch it on again, it will switch off again even more quickly. It doesn't even get to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Alec On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:55 +, Alec Wright wrote: I phoned Evesham tech support, and they immediately said it was a windows driver problem. When I told him it didn't have windows on it, but had Linux on it, he put me on hold for a few minutes. When he got back, he told me that he

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:02 +, John Levin wrote: Alan Pope wrote: Hi Alec, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:47 +, Alec Wright wrote: Is anyone using Hardy yet? Am I right in thinking that it will be fairly stable, because Hardy's gonna be an LTS release? I used gutsy since the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Sean Miller
Totally agree... it's like being asked to check your dial-up networking settings when complaining that your router can't connect to the internet... It's like duh! it's a router... -- this may have improved now, seeing as many ISPs are now promoting routers rather than the old Alcatel Speedtouch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Daniel Lamb
Yes usually do not volunteer information, and agree when they say something, I they say to try something then take some time and then say you tried it, usually if you keep saying it doesn't work whatever they say then they will send out an engineer. The only time you have problems is if they ask

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Alec Wright
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:03 +, Mark Harrison wrote: Hi, I'm calling back. Your tech support guy told me to re-install Windows, but the PC is switching off before it starts the install... Suggested that to my dad (whos making the calls now) too Thanks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Alec Wright
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:34 +, Dougie Richardson wrote: It may be worth reading this http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html carefully so you know all your rights before going any further. From the warranty terms and conditions: 1. Cover provided by this contract: ...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Load Unload Cycles

2007-11-01 Thread Tom Bamford
Hi Dougie, Thank you for explaining it a bit more. I have read documentation from Hitachi on the subject, but couldn't find anything useful on the Samsung website. I've also noticed today that the count is going up just as quickly when running on external power as it does on battery power, so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!

2007-11-01 Thread Pete Stean
And to add to that, quite possibly have certain important features made inaccessible - because people can't be trusted to configure their own routers now can they... I wouldn't touch a BT router with someone else's 10 foot pole Pete -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Alec Wright
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:01 +, Pete Stean wrote: That Slashdot article is certainly worth a read btw, although it doesn't help the OP. Yep I read it quite a while ago. That's where i got the inspiration for the title of this shred - one of the new articles about the hinge was titled Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or so Evesham tech support say... Here's what happened: Whenever I switched my computer on, it would switch off within five seconds or so. If I switch it on again, it will switch off again even more quickly. It doesn't even get to detecting disk drives,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Alec On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:55 +, Alec Wright wrote: I phoned Evesham tech support, and they immediately said it was a windows driver problem. When I told him it didn't have windows on it, but had Linux on it, he put me on hold for a few minutes.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Mark Harrison
Rob Beard wrote: Last time I found something like that it was a faulty motherboard which the temperature sensor was reporting the CPU (a Duron 700) was running at 199 degrees! I'd say they're fobbing you off somewhat. Funny, I remember the days when Evesham stood for quality. Does it

[ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Jai Harrison
Guys, Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated between C and C++. This is because I do not mind which I use. I've been looking on GNU's website and they feature a manual on glibc (which is a definite advantage if

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Dave Walker
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:27 -0400, Alan Pope wrote: SNIP Ok, so some changes have been accepted in, but what I've said still applies. The repo isn't currently open. SNIP Hi Alan, The Gutsy repo has 23268 packages compared with Hardy's repo of a current 23373 packages. Although the vast

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Pascoe
What about the startup beeps, presuming of course that the BIOS supports them? Can you get into the BIOS before shut down? Mind you first thought was a faulty PSU especially if it cuts out quicker the more times you sequentially try to re-start it. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Jai, Would be interested as to why you are interested in C/C++, what are your objectives? Dougie On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:11 +, Jai Harrison wrote: Guys, Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas

2007-11-01 Thread lovell1
From: Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 06:38:20 GMT To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas Tony Arnold wrote: On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in the far north of the country

[ubuntu-uk] Brian the Snail

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Pascoe
Guys My Gutsy installation is definately very unwell! I appear to be gradually losing various functionality through nothing I'm doing, cos I'm finding it hard to do anything! So far I've lost the bongos at the log on screen - the wav file is no longer on the system. My System Preferences menu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] /home partition

2007-11-01 Thread Farran Lee
ok, thanks. I'll check it out and report back! On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 20:23 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 26/10/2007, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks. Looks like the best option. is there some kind of website where I can upload and privately store the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas

2007-11-01 Thread Ian Pascoe
Going back a couple of years now, we had to organise an event and the NEC worked out a lot more cost effective than places like Earls Court, Olympia, QE II Conference Centre, Barbican, Ally Pally etc etc Don't know costings thesedays though. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread John Levin
Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/01/mandriva_ceo_posts_open_letter_to_steve_ballmer/ MS have been playing these games in Africa for some time: in 2002, they offered Schoolnet Namibia Office Pro for free, in a deal that would

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Yes I read it this afternoon. I'm sure there about a million spam and scam related jokes that could be made here. Dougie On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 20:24 +, Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Jai Harrison
Hi Jai, Hey Dougie Would be interested as to why you are interested in C/C++, what are your objectives? My objects are to learn the language and then make GTK/GNOME applications to suit my requirements. A big one of these is a music player that suits my personal needs (and I shouldn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Skeg Fast
John Levin wrote: Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/01/mandriva_ceo_posts_open_letter_to_steve_ballmer/ MS have been playing these games in Africa for some time: in 2002, they offered Schoolnet Namibia Office Pro for free, in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Skeg Fast
Well at least now we know why Mr Gates was trying to get into Nigeria when he had his visa application rejected. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/13/212125 Sorry, missed a 0 from the link. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/13/2121250 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/01/mandriva_ceo_posts_open_letter_to_steve_ballmer/ This is exactly we keep fighting the corner for Linux, I'm trying to get Linux into as many places as possible (for instance, community centres

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread David Restall - System Administrator
Hi Jai, Guys, Don't forget the gals/dolls !!. Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated between C and C++. This is because I do not mind which I use. I've been looking on GNU's website and they feature a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Jai, I'll probably get castigated for this but I use both and found Python and GTK much less hassle and easier to get up to speed with quickly. C is what C is - a good strong language, C++ - well many have strong opinions on it (including Linux Torvalds). On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 20:55 +,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Yes I wondered if that was a coincidence. On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 21:09 +, Skeg Fast wrote: Well at least now we know why Mr Gates was trying to get into Nigeria when he had his visa application rejected. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/13/212125 Sorry, missed a 0 from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy?

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Dave, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:26 +, Dave Walker wrote: The Gutsy repo has 23268 packages compared with Hardy's repo of a current 23373 packages. Although the vast majority of packages are identical, it's also showing up http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ Hmm. I was wrong.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi David, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 21:19 +, David Restall - System Administrator wrote: I wouldn't recommend KR - it's not a book for beginners. My KR is well thumbed but was difficult to follow when I was starting out. I bought C The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt (McGraw Hill I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Mark Harrison
Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! Not to me it isn't. The Nigerian government aren't complaining. The Nigerian people aren't complaining. [Or if they are, someone post a link and tell me about what] In fact, the person who's complaining in this article is the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Matthew Wild
On 11/1/07, David Restall - System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jai, Guys, Don't forget the gals/dolls !!. Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated between C and C++. This is because I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson
Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! Not to me it isn't. The Nigerian government aren't complaining. The Nigerian people aren't complaining. [Or if they are, someone post a link and tell me about what] In fact, the person who's complaining in this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cisco VPN Client

2007-11-01 Thread James Tait
Well having tried it and installing it finally, I was an idiot. I couldn't get any info from college website about the .pcf file I needed, so while waiting I decided to uninstall and try the newer versions that the support guys posted...and now nothing will install whatsoever, even with the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson
I don't know if this is of any help to you, but I happened to come across this on t' interweb... http://www.steveheller.com/cppad/cppad.htm -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:38 +, Chris Rowson wrote: I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points to make. Despite writing in rant mode, without remembering to include the customary rant/rant

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Mark, On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 21:57 +, Mark Harrison wrote: In fact, the person who's complaining in this article is the guy who came in second in a procurement round, and he's throwing mud around and hoping some of it sticks. I see where you coming from but that's not how I read the