Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Sean Miller
The whole TV Licence thing is quite bizarre, imho, but it's amazing how when it gets debated so many people stand up for it -- "the BBC is such a great institution it's a small price to pay" etc. etc. Most of us pay it, but the premise that because you have TV capable of receiving BBC broadcasts

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A Possible Experiment

2008-05-12 Thread Matt Daubney
Replies inline (sorry for the lateness, just catching up!) On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:23:08AM +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Philip Newborough > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, M

[ubuntu-uk] Print Selection prints blank pages in Firefox 3 beta 5 on Hardy?

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Oakley
As discussed, Ubuntu Hardy installs Firefox 3 beta 5 by default. Can anyone get Print Selection to work on this please? If so, how? Otherwise, please can you confirm this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425094 Thanks, -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https:/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] monthly reminder mail, was: command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Mac
Kris Douglas wrote: > Nor the best typist on a Blackberry either. =P Ah, forgive me! I'm impressed that you can type at all on one of them. I can no longer even see what's on the keys! Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] monthly reminder mail, was: command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kris Douglas wrote: > > ...I'm not the best autohor of official documents. > > OK, OK! We believe you! > > ;-) > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Matt Daubney
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:56:47PM +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Oakley wrote: > | A laptop, however, definitely does have the battery within the case, so > | a student living away from home could use the laptop to watch TV on > | their

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Lucy
On 12/05/2008, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ive also used it...and found it quite cpu hungry!!! > picture quality is okish.! not that great in full screen! If your brother lives in halls he might be able to receive freeview (or better) channels through IPTV via JANET. See http://www.inu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread norman
< snip > > > I have found that the best app for media and TV is MythTV, along with > a dual tuner from hauupage. I have a system that runs 3x dual NOVA-T > 500 tuners, along with 2gb ram and a 7600gt graphics card, and an > Intel P4 HT 3.0GHz from NVidia, works perfectly. > > An expensive solutio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] monthly reminder mail, was: command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Mac
Kris Douglas wrote: > ...I'm not the best autohor of official documents. OK, OK! We believe you! ;-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Daniel, Daniel Lamb wrote: > This is all well and good what the bbc say however as you are not > recieving a transmission it would be harder for them to track surely, > obviously they could track it by ip address however that would mean > zattoo would need to work with them, I think they work

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Daniel Lamb
This is all well and good what the bbc say however as you are not recieving a transmission it would be harder for them to track surely, obviously they could track it by ip address however that would mean zattoo would need to work with them, I am not condoning or suggesting anyone breaks the la

Re: [ubuntu-uk] monthly reminder mail, was: command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 12:45 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: > > I have been thinking about what you said, I think maybe, a monthly > > message on the list, containing a basic etiquette guide, and some > > rules of the list... I gue

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Oakley wrote: | A laptop, however, definitely does have the battery within the case, so | a student living away from home could use the laptop to watch TV on | their parents' TV licence, provided they never watched TV with the mains | charger at

[ubuntu-uk] monthly reminder mail, was: command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 12:45 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: > I have been thinking about what you said, I think maybe, a monthly > message on the list, containing a basic etiquette guide, and some > rules of the list... I guess that could help nail some basic mailing > list rules into people's heads...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ive also used it...and found it quite cpu hungry!!! > picture quality is okish.! not that great in full screen! You have to remember, that the TV is broadcast in a very low resolution, unless you are watching a High Def broa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps we need a better description of what this mailing list is about? > > > > Suggestions welcome. > > > > I think "British Ubuntu Talk" works quite well, however, over the last > few months I have read some thread

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 11:34 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > I tried very hard to make it not so... my point was regarding the > reason for the list being in place, rather than any specific posts... > if everybody posted as many as you then people would start > unsubscribing, I think... There is of c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
Ive also used it...and found it quite cpu hungry!!! picture quality is okish.! not that great in full screen! On 12/05/2008, Andrew Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tony Arnold wrote: > > I agree, but portable devices are covered by your home license and a > > portable device is one that doe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Oakley
Tony Arnold wrote: > I agree, but portable devices are covered by your home license and a > portable device is one that does not need mains power. So a student at > University could watch TV on a portable device which would be covered by > his/her parents license back home. Correct - the important

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
initially it was a bit irritating...but i do understand the thought behind it!!! my apologies to everyone if they feel the same way! I will go that extra mile in future in researching ...before i post On 12/05/2008, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Arnold wrote: | If you are watching a program via the internet that is being broadcast | over the airwaves at the same time, then you need a separate TV license | to do that. | | An exception is that if you are watching on a portable device (which

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Stephen, Stephen Garton wrote: > 2008/5/12 Chris Oattes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I'm afraid that this isn't the case: >> >> "Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes online? >> >> It makes no difference how you watch TV - whether it's on your laptop, >> PC or mobile phone or through

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris, Chris Oattes wrote: > Tony Arnold said the following on 12/05/08 11:24: >> Javad, >> >> Javad Ayaz wrote: >>> a laptop would come under that!!! >> Yep! Just run it on batteries! >> >> Tony. > > > I'm afraid that this isn't the case: > > "Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen Garton
2008/5/12 Chris Oattes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm afraid that this isn't the case: > > "Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes online? > > It makes no difference how you watch TV - whether it's on your laptop, > PC or mobile phone or through a digital box, DVD recorder or TV set - i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > indeed i could have interpertated seans comments as non constructive and > personalbut i do understand and appericiate the point that was being > made... > I tried very hard to make it not so... my point was regarding t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Chris Oattes
Tony Arnold said the following on 12/05/08 11:24: > Javad, > > Javad Ayaz wrote: >> a laptop would come under that!!! > > Yep! Just run it on batteries! > > Tony. I'm afraid that this isn't the case: "Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes online? It makes no difference how you wa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Javad, Javad Ayaz wrote: > a laptop would come under that!!! Yep! Just run it on batteries! Tony. > > On 12/05/2008, *Tony Arnold* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Javad, > > Javad Ayaz wrote: > > i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cas

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
a laptop would come under that!!! On 12/05/2008, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Javad, > > Javad Ayaz wrote: > > i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cast as > "streaming"? > > If you are watching a program via the internet that is being broadcast > over the airwaves a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Javad, Javad Ayaz wrote: > i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cast as "streaming"? If you are watching a program via the internet that is being broadcast over the airwaves at the same time, then you need a separate TV license to do that. An exception is that if you are watchin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:17 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: > i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cast as > "streaming"? From the tv licensing website:- "If you are watching programmes as they are being shown on TV from other services, for example Channel 4 or ITV, then you will need t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tan Xuan You
from www.tvlicensing.co.uk What is a TV Licence needed for? To use any TV equipment such as a TV set, digital box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on television. I'm no lawyer (engineer rather), but it doesn't mention st

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
indeed i could have interpertated seans comments as non constructive and personalbut i do understand and appericiate the point that was being made... my objective is to learn and better my self and not having to rely on a " helpline" when i have a problem with my pc...which i do all the time!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
classed as even! On 12/05/2008, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cast as "streaming"? > > On 12/05/2008, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:04 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: > > > im only trying to help! lol

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
i thought those laws didnt apply if the broadcast was cast as "streaming"? On 12/05/2008, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:04 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: > > im only trying to help! lol > > > > this will be beneficial to my brother who is at uni and has no tv!!! > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Tan Xuan You
I have my doubts regarding this Zattoo program in the UK. As I read it, once anyone receives a television program in real-time in the UK, they are liable for TV Licensing. Zattoo seems like such a program, albeit having a different transmission media (p2p over the net instead of RF transmission).

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Javad Ayaz wrote: | i do indeed research the topic before i post! and i will normally only | post...if im unsure of something! There were some of your earlier posts which seemed like they would have benefited from just a little research on your part

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:04 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: > im only trying to help! lol > > this will be beneficial to my brother who is at uni and has no tv!!! > > I am not a lawyer, but from my interpretation of the TV license laws, he'd need a TV license to use Zattoo at Uni - in the same way

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
im only trying to help! lol this will be beneficial to my brother who is at uni and has no tv!!! On 12/05/2008, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok sorry, i know the current discussion about me posting ext

Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Philip Newborough
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok sorry, i know the current discussion about me posting extensively is in > full swing but i had to post this!!! as i havent seen anyone else do > it.yet...or maybe i missed it...!!! > A TV app! > LOL, you're an addi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tribute to Guido Sohne

2008-05-12 Thread alan c
andylockran wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://djehuty.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/11/1481298-rest-in-peace-guido-sohne > > Had some bad news this morning. Guido Sohne - massive Open Source > activist across 52 countries in Africa has died, aged only 34. > > I on

[ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok sorry, i know the current discussion about me posting extensively is in full swing but i had to post this!!! as i havent seen anyone else do it.yet...or maybe i missed it...!!! A TV app! http://zattoo.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
i do indeed research the topic before i post! and i will normally only post...if im unsure of something! On 12/05/2008, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i indeed understand that persons viewbut this is what i was trying to > say that what am i to do if even after reading up on how tos

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
i indeed understand that persons viewbut this is what i was trying to say that what am i to do if even after reading up on how tos and other documentation i dont understand. A simple refer to this and that is sometimes confusing and a straight answer might just help! Indeed i do not think my p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/5/12 Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i am not a journalist...! lol > Indeed i do download torrents...sometimes demos for my 360/ps3/xbox/pc so > obviously torrenting is quite important to me...and i dont like keeping my > machine on all night.anyway like i said im not a techie...i dont k

[ubuntu-uk] Tribute to Guido Sohne

2008-05-12 Thread andylockran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://djehuty.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/11/1481298-rest-in-peace-guido-sohne Had some bad news this morning. Guido Sohne - massive Open Source activist across 52 countries in Africa has died, aged only 34. I only ever read a couple of articles by

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi javad. I think the point thai the original person was trying to make is that its usually polite to have a go at finding out the answer yourself to demonstrate learning. It might seen irritating to have to search for stuff yourself but many of the people here charge a lot of money for support in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
i am not a journalist...! lol Indeed i do download torrents...sometimes demos for my 360/ps3/xbox/pc so obviously torrenting is quite important to me...and i dont like keeping my machine on all night.anyway like i said im not a techie...i dont know the in's and out's and how things work...it wa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: | According to the description, it's "For organising Ubuntu stuff in the | UK.". I didn't set that, and I don't know who did. | | Perhaps we need a better description of what this mailing list is about? I was under the impression tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Sean Miller
I did not wish to put Javad off posting at all, it's just that the quantity has been (in my mind) rather excessive the last week or two. And something just doesn't click. There has not been a common thread... it almost seemed to me as if he's coming up with questions to ask, and that could be wor