[ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
Hi all, A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even though it works fine with Firefox on Mac. A support query I filed resulted in an answer by email along the lines of we don't support Linux. How

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread SuperEngineer
A suggestion use your feet to vote move bank to one that does support Ubuntu / Linux... there are plenty. Regards, SuperEngineer Registered Linux User 523667 -Original Message- From: Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com Reply-to: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com To:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Pope
On 10 October 2010 16:03, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even though it works fine with Firefox on Mac. A support query I filed resulted in an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Pope
On 10 October 2010 16:16, SuperEngineer boo...@gmail.com wrote: A suggestion use your feet to vote move bank to one that does support Ubuntu / Linux... there are plenty. Whilst that's good to know, a list would be even more useful. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2007/banking Thats a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 October 2010 16:03, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even though it works fine with Firefox on Mac. A support query I filed resulted

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:16 +0100, SuperEngineer wrote: A suggestion use your feet to vote move bank to one that does support Ubuntu / Linux... there are plenty. I could but I'm not sure that would be very productive. First, the problem is with the business banking site so it means I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:35 +0100, Colin Law wrote: On 10 October 2010 16:03, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even though it works

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:19 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: On 10 October 2010 16:16, SuperEngineer boo...@gmail.com wrote: A suggestion use your feet to vote move bank to one that does support Ubuntu / Linux... there are plenty. Whilst that's good to know, a list would be even more useful.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Vince Marsters
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:55 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking about) * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that point, it should take you to a login page but in my case it just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Vince Marsters
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:09 +0100, Vince Marsters wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:55 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking about) * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:55:44 +0100 Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:35 +0100, Colin Law wrote: Is it possible for us to see the failure or does it need access to non-public areas? It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Tony Travis
On 10/10/10 16:55, Bruno Girin wrote: [...] It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking about) * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that point, it should take you to a login page but in my case it just takes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 October 2010 16:52, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] What I'm interested in is the last bit. Whether their web site happens to work on Linux or not is one thing. But as soon as you send a support query, you get a canned answer saying they don't officially support it. What

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 October 2010 16:03, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even though it works fine with Firefox on Mac. A support query I filed resulted

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 10/10/10 16:03, Bruno Girin wrote: How would you address such an issue with your bank or any supplier you deal with to convince them that they have an interest in supporting your chosen technical solution? There were several Government security announcements a few months ago; Germany,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Jacob Mansfield
the fact that you are using ubuntu has nothing to do with it. I suggest that you write a complaint to your bank explaining this, and how their tech support team was rude and refused to help with the matter. I find that threatening to move to a rival service can be verry effective in these

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Simon Greenwood
The HSBC website used to cause problems with my wife's PC running Firefox 3 on Windows. 3.5 seems to be happier. s/ On 10 Oct 2010 17:38, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: the fact that you are using ubuntu has nothing to do with it. I suggest that you write a complaint to your bank

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Pope
On 10 October 2010 16:55, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: It's very easy:      * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking        about)      * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that point, it should take you to a login page but in my case

[ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
I am having similar problems to the gentlman with the bank page. I have animals, and have a page called www.petsathome.com which I was able to get on till I got the upgrade to beta last week. I use Google Chrome, and it worked ok till then. Now, the page loads, and goes white after a couple of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Jacob Mansfield
seems fine to me, by the sound of what you said I would guess that it's a css style sheet problem Jacob Mansfield Programmer On 10 October 2010 18:07, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: I am having similar problems to the gentlman with the bank page. I have animals, and have a page called

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
So how do I get over it. It wont load, its not the only page, but that is one I use the most. John On 10/10/10 18:10, Jacob Mansfield wrote: seems fine to me, by the sound of what you said I would guess that it's a css style sheet problem Jacob Mansfield Programmer -- Ubuntu User #30817

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Colin Law
On 10 October 2010 18:07, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: I am having similar problems to the gentlman with the bank page. I have animals, and have a page called www.petsathome.com which I was able to get on till I got the upgrade to beta last week. I use Google Chrome, and it worked ok

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Rob Beard
On 10/10/10 18:07, John Matthews wrote: I am having similar problems to the gentlman with the bank page. I have animals, and have a page called www.petsathome.com which I was able to get on till I got the upgrade to beta last week. I use Google Chrome, and it worked ok till then. Now, the page

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/10/10 18:20, Colin Law wrote: Is that your web site? It is full of html errors, see http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.petsathome.com Colin Hi, no its not my website. Up till the upgrade, it worked no problems. As I said I viewed it a lot. On 10/10/10 18:26, Rob Beard wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/10/10 18:26, Rob Beard wrote: I've got the same problem on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS running Chromium 8.0.551.0 (62097) (it's a nightly build I believe). I have seen it with a couple of web sites. I tried the Pets At Home web site in Firefox 3.6.10 and it works fine, so I suspect rather than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
Just started my netbook, running 10.10 as well, and it wont open on there using Chrome either, so it isnt just the pc, its the netbook as well that has a problem. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Jacob Mansfield
try in firefox, what happens? Jacob Mansfield Programmer On 10 October 2010 18:59, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: Just started my netbook, running 10.10 as well, and it wont open on there using Chrome either, so it isnt just the pc, its the netbook as well that has a problem. John

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
On 10/10/10 19:00, Jacob Mansfield wrote: try in firefox, what happens? Jacob Mansfield Programmer That works, I'm running 3.6.10 on my netbook, so its a problem with Google and the new version of FF. So what has changed in the upgrade to 10.10 to make that happen, that is annoying. I hate

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Jacob Mansfield
It's probably a difference in the way the HTML renderers work. I know FF uses Gecko but i don't know about chromium Jacob Mansfield Programmer On 10 October 2010 19:06, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 10/10/10 19:00, Jacob Mansfield wrote: try in firefox, what happens? Jacob

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread John Matthews
How can I go back to 3.6.10, and how can I get Chrome to show those pages. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Tony Scott
Hi Jacob Chromium uses the WebKit renderer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers#General_information -- Tony Scott http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org From: Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com To: UK Ubuntu Talk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Steve Fisher
Renders in Google Chrome stable, but not in the current Chromium unstable, so you could try installing Chrome. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:55 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking about) * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that point, it should take you to a login page but in my case it just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 10/10/10 18:07, John Matthews wrote: I am having similar problems to the gentlman with the bank page. I have animals, and have a page called www.petsathome.com which I was able to get on till I got the upgrade to beta last week. I use Google Chrome, and it worked ok till then. Now, the page

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Rob Beard
On 10/10/10 19:06, John Matthews wrote: On 10/10/10 19:00, Jacob Mansfield wrote: try in firefox, what happens? Jacob Mansfield Programmer That works, I'm running 3.6.10 on my netbook, so its a problem with Google and the new version of FF. So what has changed in the upgrade to 10.10 to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Rob Beard
On 10/10/10 19:21, John Matthews wrote: How can I go back to 3.6.10, and how can I get Chrome to show those pages. John 3.6.10 of what? Firefox? Looks like Firefox is 3.6.10 in Ubuntu 10.10 (and 10.04.1). As far as fixing the problem, I've posted some links to Launchpad so you can raise a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Andy Braben
On 10 October 2010 19:50, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:55 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: It's very easy:       * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking         about)       * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:13 +0100, Yorvyk wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:55:44 +0100 Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:35 +0100, Colin Law wrote: Is it possible for us to see the failure or does it need access to non-public areas? It's very easy:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:37 +0100, Jacob Mansfield wrote: the fact that you are using ubuntu has nothing to do with it. I suggest that you write a complaint to your bank explaining this, and how their tech support team was rude and refused to help with the matter. I find that threatening to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:21 +0100, Colin Law wrote: On 10 October 2010 16:52, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] What I'm interested in is the last bit. Whether their web site happens to work on Linux or not is one thing. But as soon as you send a support query, you get a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-10 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 18:19 +0100, John Matthews wrote: So how do I get over it. It wont load, its not the only page, but that is one I use the most. The page loads fine for me on Firefox 3.6.12pre and Firefox 4.0b8pre both on Ubuntu 10.10 so it may be a problem with Chromium. Then again, I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread David King
I agree -- change your bank. I use HSBC and fortunately my online banking for both personal and business accounts works in Firefox on Ubuntu. If it did not, I would have changed banks to one that does. David King SuperEngineer wrote: A suggestion use your feet to vote move bank to one

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread David King
I use HSBC and it works fine for me. David King Bruno Girin wrote: It's very easy: * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking about) * Click the Log on button in the Business box on the right At that point, it should take you to a login page but in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread David King
I just read in another post of Bruno's that he is using HSBC. The problem is not with HSBC, but with your software somewhere. David David King wrote: I agree -- change your bank. I use HSBC and fortunately my online banking for both personal and business accounts works in Firefox on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread David King
I would add that if a bank was to state that they officially support Linux, then they may find that a user is using an obscure combination of distro and browser that will not work. Plus, banks tend to put profits way ahead of customer service. David Bruno Girin wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at

[ubuntu-uk] Network Manager Problem (Xubuntu 10.4)

2010-10-10 Thread Nigel Verity
Hi Guys I'm running Xubuntu 10.4. A couple of days ago I downloaded a routine update which required a reboot to complete. After that I had no wireless connectivity and no Network Manager applet (nm-applet) icon in the notification area. Following much experimentation I discovered I could get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

2010-10-10 Thread סאמואל
im using chrome (google) and it works fine. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:35 +0100, Colin Law wrote: On 10 October 2010 16:03, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A quick question I'd like to put to the