Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Also takes a lot of fiddling about to set up a custom Debian desktop and I don't have time to make a habit of it. It's a while since I reviewed all the packaged lightweight desktops and there's been a lot of development since then, I'll have a look at Peppermint. There was an Ubuntu-lite

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Liam Proven
On 20 July 2010 11:54, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Also takes a lot of fiddling about to set up a custom Debian desktop and I don't have time to make a habit of it. It's a while since I reviewed all the packaged lightweight desktops and there's been a lot of development since then, I'll

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Thanks - I'll have a look at Lubuntu when I get a minute :) Crunchbag looks interesting but interface needs to be for beginners when dealing with non-techies . . . On 20/07/10 14:51, Liam Proven wrote: That is what Ubuntu Lite tried to be - later rebadged U-Lite. We never got the critical

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Me, I'm watching Crunchbang with interest, but it's not a beginners' distro. Crunchbang is awesome - I set it up for my wife who was complaining about performance on her EEEPC 701, and have since run it on other hardware

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Liam Proven
On 20 July 2010 15:25, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Me, I'm watching Crunchbang with interest, but it's not a beginners' distro. Crunchbang is awesome - I set it up for my wife who was complaining about

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: Real Debian is getting pretty good these days - it's smaller and faster than Ubuntu and the default Gnome desktop is much the same. It was just that getting firmware for my wifi card and so on was a bit of a pain. It is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Sounds like I ought to revisit Debian installation . . . On 20/07/10 16:20, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Liam Provenlpro...@gmail.com wrote: Real Debian is getting pretty good these days - it's smaller and faster than Ubuntu and the default Gnome desktop is

[ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Pope
Hey! We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG meetings, technical conferences and other self-organised events and telling everyone how great Ubuntu is. However we seem to spend a lot of time preaching to the converted, speaking to people who already run Ubuntu or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? The West Dean Chilli Fiesta! http://www.westdean.org.uk/Garden/News%20and%20Events/ChilliFiesta.aspx Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
Environmental events are good, foreground stuff like how to refurbish their XP kit and keep perfectly good electronic kit out of landfill . . . Paula On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: Hey! We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG meetings, technical

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 13:21, pmgazz wrote: Environmental events are good, foreground stuff like how to refurbish their XP kit and keep perfectly good electronic kit out of landfill . . . Paula I agree, someone in our local LUG donated a couple of old PCs (I think they were around early Pentium 2's) to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: Hey! We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG meetings, technical conferences and other self-organised events and telling everyone how great Ubuntu is. However we seem to spend a lot of time preaching to the converted,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
I've done a bit of this - I've demo'd an Ubuntu LTSP and also laptops at voluntary sector events - people don't 'get' what an operating system is and tend to think that MS Win is 'part of the machine'. They have to have a reason for considering changing OS and I find that being able to help

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's either got a whole load of Office 2003 licenses he wants to give away or he's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
On 19/07/10 15:24, Dianne Reuby wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's either got a whole load of Office 2003

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 July 2010 11:53, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? If you know of any specific events near you, maybe you could add them to this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NonTechEvents Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 14:16, pmgazz wrote: I've done a bit of this - I've demo'd an Ubuntu LTSP and also laptops at voluntary sector events - people don't 'get' what an operating system is and tend to think that MS Win is 'part of the machine'. They have to have a reason for considering changing OS and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 15:39, pmgazz wrote: On 19/07/10 15:24, Dianne Reuby wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's either

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
P3s run great as thin clients (just need a pxe card) and the ubiquitous P3 compaqs have them already. But if people haven't got any money at all, the the LTSP option is a stretch as they need at least one halfway decent machine - but if they can stump up a couple of hundred quid for a basic

[ubuntu-uk] Non Technical Events

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
Totally agree -- really important to stay positive and focus on benefits. Also agree that speed and relief from 'drive by' downloads etc is a major selling point :) Paula One thing I've learned after years of attending trade and techie exhibitions is that knocking the opposition doesn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 15:47, Alan Pope wrote: On 19 July 2010 11:53, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? If you know of any specific events near you, maybe you could add them to this page:-http://childrensweek.co.uk/home.htm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 19/07/10 13:42, Rob Beard wrote: I'm hoping as a LUG in Devon we can start to do more of this in the future, I'd even refurbish machines and stick Ubuntu on them if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 16:10, pmgazz wrote: P3s run great as thin clients (just need a pxe card) and the ubiquitous P3 compaqs have them already. But if people haven't got any money at all, the the LTSP option is a stretch as they need at least one halfway decent machine - but if they can stump up a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread LeeGroups
I'm hoping as a LUG in Devon we can start to do more of this in the future, I'd even refurbish machines and stick Ubuntu on them if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's