hey, not all us comp sci people are bad! :-(
I am very much a geek tyvm. I'm a business geek.
I do understand what you are saying though. A lot of comp-sci grads
just want to go away thinking they are the dogs bollocks in
programming and what-not. But that simply isnt important to companies.
I think you are correct in that companies (directors managers etc) are
looking for IT process. But IT departments are run by those people. The
heads of IT/IT Managers/IT Directors/CTOs (who are on 50k+) are responsible
for such business. The IT department, or the team itself needs to be made
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way i see it, there are 2 types of compter poeple: Geeks, and
Comptuter Experts. (and no offence to those who dont like the term geek)
A Geek doesn't like to be told how/why things work - he/she like to
figure things out... so probably no university degrees etc.
Apologies for the long post.
I've followed this debate with interest. I am a university lecturer and I used
to manage the Industrial Placements Unit at the School of Computing and IT at
the University of Wolverhampton.
One option that is often overlooked is that of university placement
Mark Harrison wrote:
Money seems to do quite well in them.Oh, talk about a Freudian slip.
That should have been Einstein and Monet :-)
In my defence, I use a qwerty keyboard :-) :-
I thought that was the latest nickname for the CEO of M$ :-)
He does all right in them too!
--
Matthew Larsen wrote:
However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical
employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than
adopt a primadona attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears
suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shirt... on
mwuahahaha you poor ITIL slave. I am trying VERY hard to avoid that myself.
And where's my beer?
Regards,
On 07/09/2007, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you are correct in that companies (directors managers etc) are
looking for IT process. But IT departments are run by those
The way i see it, there are 2 types of compter poeple: Geeks, and
Comptuter Experts. (and no offence to those who dont like the term
geek)
A Geek doesn't like to be told how/why things work - he/she like to
figure things out... so probably no university degrees etc.
A Computer expert has done 5
In my experience, there are too many MCSE graduates who don't even know
what dual booting is!
I recently did a Cisco course with with 3 guys (all with MCSE) that
didn't even understand the basics of IP sub-netting etc... and yet still
passed the course!!!
Am i the only one who thinks this, or
Michael Holloway wrote:
Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above,
i would love to hear it!
Go straight to the source:
As a new feature, we are beginning to list Ubuntu related job
opportunities offered by employers other than Canonical. If you are an
I'm interested, but currently doing a placement year then got another
year at uni (comp sci at Manchester). If you dont mind waiting until
2009 drop me an e-mail and i'l forward my CV :-)
Regards,
PS Your not the only one with this problem. Most companies are having
problems recruiting grads
However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical
employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than
adopt a primadona attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears
suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shirt... on the flip side,
if
I can certainly relate to the hardship of breaking into the IT industry,
I personally am not qualified to any sort of recognisable level in IT
specific qualifications/certifications but on the other hand i am far
more knowledgable than 90% of people i know with degrees in IT related
subjects.
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